DEERMAN 1,020 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Quote Link to post
spep21 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! every one to their own but you cant beat it i think pre ban Quote Link to post
spep21 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! every one to their own but you cant beat it i think pre ban Defo mate, alot of meat on em. Used to fill the freezer for ages and the dogs ate like kings Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! every one to their own but you cant beat it i think pre ban Defo mate, alot of meat on em. Used to fill the freezer for ages and the dogs ate like kings what you got down your way , many fallow or mostly roe red and munt jacks ? Quote Link to post
bigfoot 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 Yes it has been done NOT SINGLE HANDED IT HASN'T it has though the stag was a scrag [lame] Quote Link to post
spep21 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! every one to their own but you cant beat it i think pre ban Defo mate, alot of meat on em. Used to fill the freezer for ages and the dogs ate like kings what you got down your way , many fallow or mostly roe red and munt jacks ? Loads of fallow and roe, quite a few red if you know where to look and I have seen quite a few smaller deer which I'm not too sure what they are as haven't caught any. Probably muntjacks I reckon mate Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol The fallow bucks can be pretty tough too, I have seen a bullx dragged 1/4 mile across a field and then disappear into a wood and come back with a mouth full of fleck and nothing else. one of my bull crosses i got at moment had her 2 top holders snapped off with a game fallow buck ,when i got to her in was throwing her round like a rag doll ,it charged my mate (he did his bull fighter drills lol) with her hanging on the head and 2nd dog on the back leg, it then took 2 off us to pull him over .all preban Sounds good fun mate!! every one to their own but you cant beat it i think pre ban Defo mate, alot of meat on em. Used to fill the freezer for ages and the dogs ate like kings what you got down your way , many fallow or mostly roe red and munt jacks ? Loads of fallow and roe, quite a few red if you know where to look and I have seen quite a few smaller deer which I'm not too sure what they are as haven't caught any. Probably muntjacks I reckon mate wheres my invite lol lol im being naughty now its banned i should say you could of invited me preban .....sorry lol Quote Link to post
ferret boy charlie 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 red stag 400lb in the rut no way 1 hound will pull it over .feckin dreamers :doh to be honest mate a fallow buck in the rut will take some pulling over , and when they face the dog 9 times out of ten your in there too getting it down , but once thier down and like you said before you keep their heads down your good. lol i know someone on here who took a full grown fallow out of the rut Quote Link to post
bigfoot 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 all these maybe this and maybe that could do it, if your that bothered get out and find out.there is a pick of heidi and another bullx with a red stag in darcys book. the lad in the bali in that pick had the dog that pulled one on its own and on the trip that pick was taken it came very close to pulling a fit ten pionter Quote Link to post
spiderpig 39 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 well all i can say is there is deer and deer.a park deer and a scotish deer are completely different to a wild lowland red, a mastif x wouldnt get anywhere near them to get the supposed neck hold ect ect.scottish stags like the one in running dog addiction are smaller and who knows the story behind it? it might of tripped/been lame ect. ive seen 4 big bull x and good ones too been flipped of my a red stag like they wernt even there. ppl say it can be done single handed but we will never know. i once saw a fairy at the bottom of my garden honest,its true.i cant prove it or maybe even show you it again but it did. park deer are less afraid of humans and animals so tend to stand more or not get into full flight as easy, a lowland one can run like fuuck, you need a motor to keep them in the same field as they will jump a hedge like its a matchstick. then yoiu need 4 good dogs and the last thing you need is a hell of a lot of luck.put it this way it cant be done regular even with 4 dogs,you will only actually catch a small number of what you run and as for a labrador dropping one all i can say is that drugs are very harmfull to your mind and please go talk to frank! Quote Link to post
ferret boy charlie 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 well all i can say is there is deer and deer.a park deer and a scotish deer are completely different to a wild lowland red, a mastif x wouldnt get anywhere near them to get the supposed neck hold ect ect.scottish stags like the one in running dog addiction are smaller and who knows the story behind it? it might of tripped/been lame ect.ive seen 4 big bull x and good ones too been flipped of my a red stag like they wernt even there. ppl say it can be done single handed but we will never know. i once saw a fairy at the bottom of my garden honest,its true.i cant prove it or maybe even show you it again but it did. park deer are less afraid of humans and animals so tend to stand more or not get into full flight as easy, a lowland one can run like fuuck, you need a motor to keep them in the same field as they will jump a hedge like its a matchstick. then yoiu need 4 good dogs and the last thing you need is a hell of a lot of luck.put it this way it cant be done regular even with 4 dogs,you will only actually catch a small number of what you run and as for a labrador dropping one all i can say is that drugs are very harmfull to your mind and please go talk to frank! well mate i think youve laid it all to rest now cheers to alll the lads who said something constructive thanks very much spiderpig Quote Link to post
bigfoot 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) well all i can say is there is deer and deer.a park deer and a scotish deer are completely different to a wild lowland red, a mastif x wouldnt get anywhere near them to get the supposed neck hold ect ect.scottish stags like the one in running dog addiction are smaller and who knows the story behind it? it might of tripped/been lame ect.ive seen 4 big bull x and good ones too been flipped of my a red stag like they wernt even there. ppl say it can be done single handed but we will never know. i once saw a fairy at the bottom of my garden honest,its true.i cant prove it or maybe even show you it again but it did. park deer are less afraid of humans and animals so tend to stand more or not get into full flight as easy, a lowland one can run like fuuck, you need a motor to keep them in the same field as they will jump a hedge like its a matchstick. then yoiu need 4 good dogs and the last thing you need is a hell of a lot of luck.put it this way it cant be done regular even with 4 dogs,you will only actually catch a small number of what you run and as for a labrador dropping one all i can say is that drugs are very harmfull to your mind and please go talk to frank! at last sence very true highland deer are lighter they still run likefook and take some stoppin :thumbs:but one dog can do them wish i owned it Edited February 7, 2009 by bigfoot Quote Link to post
alimac 882 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 never known anyone whos dogs have took them, i know a few stalkers whos labs would pull down a wounded stag and iv seen this happen but never a lurcher and to be honest i wouldnt like to see a dog take them i worked with them and theyre huge i wouldnt imagine a dog could do the deed quickly as even with a bullet through the engine room they can still go some. cant bielive labs pull reds even if they have been shot my mates staffy\lab and pure lab struggled on a wounded roe doe . . . dont care if you believe me or not to be honest, your opinion or what you think means f**k all to me to be perfectly truthfull, but im telling you iv seen it and it aint as if its rare i know a lot of stalkers that use labs, and if your mates labs are worked every day and ran 5 miles everyday and they cant pull down a roe id move them on to a pet home. what a load of shite ..... fact .... living and working as a keeper in the highlands i can say iv never heard or seen any hill stalker use or even take a dog, let alone a fecking retriever out shooting reds.... 100 times out of 100 the stalker will take a shot at a beast wounded by a client...... using a lab to pull a red, the best iv ever heard on THL and thats some statement.. as for a dog pulling one single handed, no way ... yes it may catch and take hold but wont pull it with out human help Quote Link to post
spep21 0 Posted February 7, 2009 Report Share Posted February 7, 2009 well all i can say is there is deer and deer.a park deer and a scotish deer are completely different to a wild lowland red, a mastif x wouldnt get anywhere near them to get the supposed neck hold ect ect.scottish stags like the one in running dog addiction are smaller and who knows the story behind it? it might of tripped/been lame ect.ive seen 4 big bull x and good ones too been flipped of my a red stag like they wernt even there. ppl say it can be done single handed but we will never know. i once saw a fairy at the bottom of my garden honest,its true.i cant prove it or maybe even show you it again but it did. park deer are less afraid of humans and animals so tend to stand more or not get into full flight as easy, a lowland one can run like fuuck, you need a motor to keep them in the same field as they will jump a hedge like its a matchstick. then yoiu need 4 good dogs and the last thing you need is a hell of a lot of luck.put it this way it cant be done regular even with 4 dogs,you will only actually catch a small number of what you run and as for a labrador dropping one all i can say is that drugs are very harmfull to your mind and please go talk to frank! I don't know if you are calling me a liar but the reds I have caught have taken three of us to lift it into the back of the truck and it was a struggle. I didn't say it was a mastiffx I said it was a mastiff type dog and until you have seen it I wouldn't comment mate. The bullxs have the speed to catch them and hold them but every catch is different. The mastiff type has brought them down but never caught them as it isn't fast enough but it is pretty quick and won't ever let go! There are people on here who can vouch for me and I don't talk shite. Quote Link to post
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