brock 11 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 i walk my dogs twice a day,everyday on the mountains near me,theres sheep,horses and cattle everywhere,i have a bitch thats 4 yrs,2 young dogs that are 14 months and a 6 month pup.none of them have ever looked at any live stock untill last week. my missus walked the four of them last week with her freinds staff puppy,and my worst nightmare happened,the girls staff puppy went after the sheep,which made all my doge go after them and killed one of them,so all week ive been out breaking the dogs again,they have all been of the leads amongst the sheep and they havnt bothered even looking at them,so all was well untill this afternoon,i had been on the mountain for a hour and a half having a nice walk,sheep crossing infront of me,and running infront of me and nothing from the dogs,then all of a sudden one of my fourteen month old pups shot of after a few sheep,i screamed and screamed but she didnt listen,then she grabbed a half grown sheep,by the time i got to her she had brocken its neck,the other dogs never moved from behind me,even when she caught it. to say i gave her a lamping was a understatment,im absolutely deverstated as this bitch is a cracker. :realmad: :realmad: do you reckon i will be able to break this dog again or is it to much to ask for Quote Link to post
Guest midnight_runner Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 keep up the training but maybe you should muzzle the offender till you have it back on track. its only happend twice so you should be able to turn it around good luck Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Seriously mate -your only option is an electric collar .Mates dog did the same and was cured after 2 sessions. Quote Link to post
madhunter 16 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 if it was mine it would have lead behind the ear once tried mutton will go again when your not watching .If farmer had seen it he would have wanted it pts quick .Think yourself lucky you got of with it next time might not be so lucky Quote Link to post
foxy 1 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 speak to ian b mate he should be able to giv you some helpful advice, only jokin ian Quote Link to post
collie/grey 238 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 You should keep your dog on a lead and muzzled until it is safe around them again, if the farmer finds out your dog will have to be pts, definately. If the farmer catches the dog doing it he is in his own rights to shoot the dog. If i was you i wouldn't let your dogs go out walking with that staffy again around sheep. Quote Link to post
merle the rabbit catcher 1 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 i would keep a muzzel on the dog if it still happens if it was me i would put a bullet in it Quote Link to post
bullsmilk 2 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 this is a problem mate.............but if i was you ide take advantage of the sunshine and hold a great big feckin BBQ and invite us all round for lamb kebabs its party time :alcoholic: Quote Link to post
Hardfeather 56 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Thank god its never happened to me once I've broke them theyve stayed that way,but I'd always be on pins when out lamping you never know whats just over the brow of the hill.I've heard lots of good reports about electric collars the handy thing about them is you can drop the feckers while theyre in the act rather than shouting and killing yaself running after them.Good luck yis chris Quote Link to post
wheaten 47 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 As Foxdropper says Electric collar fella, take the bitch out on its own n zap the fecker, start of on low settin wait till the bitch is close mind if she stil wants the sheep turn it up, hopefully should sort it out. Good Luck Quote Link to post
mad moustache 0 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 the safest and most efective cure for your problem is a PAC electric collar you can hire them out of CM WEEKLY i had same problem tryed every thing no luck borrowed my mates collar fryed the dog on full power only used it once problem solved that was five years ago and dog wont look at sheep even five years on Quote Link to post
Straightline 0 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Share Posted May 4, 2006 Agree with the electronic collar. Due to the amount of saluki in them brock, their quite sensitive souls and a collar should enforce that sheep chasing is a no no. As to comments regarding pts etc and a farmer has a right to shoot your dog, then thats not strictly true. I agree its not to be condoned but what your describing is not a blatant attempt at all costs of sheep worrying but a young dog blood up whos a natural born chaser, chasing something. Running the big uns dont help you either if shes been on them a few times. They gotta learn the difference. Keeping the dog close in for control helps. I bet you'll find you dont have the same problem on the lamp. Quote Link to post
kiwi 4 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 shoot the bloody thing. the electric collar is no good when the trust has been broken. the collar would have worked when it was a pup but after two sheep the dogs buggered in my eyes. just hope the rest of your pack gets the message, a bit of retraining and increase the stock contact as much as possible will help heaps. Quote Link to post
juckler123 707 Posted May 5, 2006 Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 If your dog is biddable enough shouldnt be a problem especially a young un take the offender out on its own or youll soon have em all at it by all means use the electric collar myself if i couldnt do it verbally or with a nip to the ear i would either give it somone who dont mind taking the odd sheep along with the venison or i would give it a lead earing i think myself you have your work cut out as the dog really meant it as opposed to just harrasing it hope you get it sorted its a pain when youve spent time rearing and training. one lad i knew took his bitch muzzled to a crazy goat that lived on the outskits of the village and let the goat butt the bitch about but it didnt work perhaps if he would have tried a ram who knows all the best mate dont give in without a fight cheers juckler Quote Link to post
brock 11 Posted May 5, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2006 i wont be shooting the dog,only bad dog men and fools do that,its the easy way out,no dog deserves that. the bitch was killing hares from the first time she went out,im hopeing she is gonna be a decent animal. thanks for all the positive advice tho lads,i will keep trying,i dont give up on dogs untill im out of ideas. my dogs are with me to stay,not to be sold or swopped,or shot at random. Quote Link to post
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