how pathetic

[Back Stabbath 1]

Im not in to canine psychology or spelling im into digging and lamping mate and have been since i was born,and at the end of the day if a dog bit my child its gone,if i broke thro on top of him/her and it was flat out baying on thin air it will be gone,and if i had a lurcher that couldnt take all quarry single handed it will be gone,thats why me and lads that i know down by me have tried and tested dogs in their kennells and not half backed JIBBERS thats just capable of taking rabbits and the odd fox let alone anything else hope this will answer anyones questions

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

 

Seems there are a lot of inbred knacker types on here.

[Caningra 0]

Im not in to canine psychology or spelling im into digging and lamping mate and have been since i was born,and at the end of the day if a dog bit my child its gone,if i broke thro on top of him/her and it was flat out baying on thin air it will be gone,and if i had a lurcher that couldnt take all quarry single handed it will be gone,thats why me and lads that i know down by me have tried and tested dogs in their kennells and not half backed JIBBERS thats just capable of taking rabbits and the odd fox let alone anything else hope this will answer anyones questions

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

 

Seems there are a lot of inbred knacker types on here.

what exactly do you mean by that

[Back Stabbath 1]

Im not in to canine psychology or spelling im into digging and lamping mate and have been since i was born,and at the end of the day if a dog bit my child its gone,if i broke thro on top of him/her and it was flat out baying on thin air it will be gone,and if i had a lurcher that couldnt take all quarry single handed it will be gone,thats why me and lads that i know down by me have tried and tested dogs in their kennells and not half backed JIBBERS thats just capable of taking rabbits and the odd fox let alone anything else hope this will answer anyones questions

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

 

Seems there are a lot of inbred knacker types on here.

what exactly do you mean by that

 

Hahaha!

 

[Scallywag 78]

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

Why do these discussions always descend into this kind of name calling? Just because someone is into understanding canine behaviour, or might work with a problem dog rather than get rid, doesn't make them a 'tree hugger', whatever that means anyway. If a dog bit my kid I would probably kill it, but with a heavy heart. And then I'd spend a lot of time trying to understand how I'd f****d up so badly that I'd managed to raise a dog that bit the children in my household. It's about having a bit of respect for the dog and taking a bit of responsibility for the consequences of my actions. Now please excuse me, I have a tree to hug and some incense to light.

[undisputed 1,664]

Im not in to canine psychology or spelling im into digging and lamping mate and have been since i was born,and at the end of the day if a dog bit my child its gone,if i broke thro on top of him/her and it was flat out baying on thin air it will be gone,and if i had a lurcher that couldnt take all quarry single handed it will be gone,thats why me and lads that i know down by me have tried and tested dogs in their kennells and not half backed JIBBERS thats just capable of taking rabbits and the odd fox let alone anything else hope this will answer anyones questions

 

It's gone slightly of topic I would say from what I've read the dog growled at his kid it didn't bite and this can be corrected ......and from what you've been saying and bragging about I'd say your deff not a " :db: dogman :db: In fact I'd go as far as to say you shouldn't be allowed within 10feet of one. Are you by any chance related to Jimb?

[Brimmer 220]

How many people reading this thread think all dogs can be rehabilitated and will make a sound dog in the right hands?

[Back Stabbath 1]

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

Why do these discussions always descend into this kind of name calling? Just because someone is into understanding canine behaviour, or might work with a problem dog rather than get rid, doesn't make them a 'tree hugger', whatever that means anyway. If a dog bit my kid I would probably kill it, but with a heavy heart. And then I'd spend a lot of time trying to understand how I'd f****d up so badly that I'd managed to raise a dog that bit the children in my household. It's about having a bit of respect for the dog and taking a bit of responsibility for the consequences of my actions. Now please excuse me, I have a tree to hug and some incense to light.

 

Very well said

[Scallywag 78]

[ Now please excuse me, I have a tree to hug and some incense to light.

Please make sure you dry shampoo your dreads whilst your at it....didnt want to say anything but they are getting a bit smelly :sick:

 

Apparently washing them will interfere with my deep sprirtual connection with the goddess - can't wash them for 13 moons and then only in water that's been thrice blessed by the a high priestess of gaia. Anyway I've got no time what with feeding the poor hungry wild foxes and knitting jumpers for the baby bunnies.

[6pack 60]

How many people reading this thread think all dogs can be rehabilitated and will make a sound dog in the right hands?

 

Not ALL but certainly MOST.

[Back Stabbath 1]

How many people reading this thread think all dogs can be rehabilitated and will make a sound dog in the right hands?

 

 

Not me. Some dogs will never be sound, some dogs are just born unsteady. Some were made that way by idiots. But that dosn't mean they cant live great lives in non-working homes, with people who know what they're doing.

 

For police work or schutzhund for example, you have to have a 100% rock steady dog. Can't take chances with unsound dogs, no matter how much work and training goes into them. (UK and Irish police dogs are a terrible example. They get the cheap dogs from problem homes, those dogs will crack under pressure as most are from show/pet lines and not made for working. The US police have some QUALITY imported dogs.)

Bit off topic but anyhow...!

 

People often mistake "uncontrollable" dogs for unsound dogs. The "uncontrollable" ones are often the ones from good working lines, not being utilized to their full potential.

Edited February 4, 2009 by Back Stabbath

[milo 74]

i agree with you mate if a dog bit my child i would get rid responsibly

seems there are alot of tree hugger types on here

 

Why do these discussions always descend into this kind of name calling? Just because someone is into understanding canine behaviour, or might work with a problem dog rather than get rid, doesn't make them a 'tree hugger', whatever that means anyway. If a dog bit my kid I would probably kill it, but with a heavy heart. And then I'd spend a lot of time trying to understand how I'd f****d up so badly that I'd managed to raise a dog that bit the children in my household. It's about having a bit of respect for the dog and taking a bit of responsibility for the consequences of my actions. Now please excuse me, I have a tree to hug and some incense to light.

i do agree with you to a certain degree,i had to part with two dogs not so long back,i had the pair of them almost ten years i made sure that it was done hummanley,and let me tell you GUTTED was not the word for it,it really got to me for weeks i bred the one in my kennells and gave him away as a pup then i found out that he was being mistreated ! i went up to the guys house and knocked the door no answer went around the back and seen the pup i gave him the run was full of shit no bowl of water and no bedding,i took him back home there and then and had him ever since,that dog went on to be a good worker not the best because he didnt bay in ten years and every time got smashed,parting with these broke me...they do say you got to have a big heart has a hunter

[Scallywag 78]

How many people reading this thread think all dogs can be rehabilitated and will make a sound dog in the right hands?

 

Good question. I don't think all dogs can be rehabilitated but I've learned not to take things at face value. Dogs that are described as vicious and uncontrollable sometimes aren't, or are but can be brought round. Some dogs can't though and they're the ones that should, rightly, be put to sleep in my opinion. But if possible, I think it's worth allowing someone who knows what they're doing to fully assess a problem dog and give it a chance.

 

Milo - I agree, losing dogs your committed to is gut wrenching and takes it out of you.

[milo 74]

In all my rational thinking and honest thinking.. ..WHO in there right mind would put a suspect dog anywhere near a child..let alone a good working type..

These type of good dog's we are talking about would usualy be kenelled and the chance of any accident's would be realy low..if they did encounter a child and growl they would be corrected and placed back in the kennel..and not put near the child again..(not culled)

I could go on for hour's but to be honest i see it pointless trying to talk any sense from what i have scrolled through as they will alway's be someone with a bitter reply..

Millet

all my hunting dogs are kennelled therfore i have no problems,i do have one in the house and the only time he growlled at a child was when my nephew went to grab him when the dog was eating

[Guest mickyrichardson]

firstly, i have known and owned a 'hard terrier'. im sorry mate but a dog should be brought up to no where it is in the pack i.e your family.

all to many times iv seen people slap a dog to no affect.

if you had brought that terrier up to no that even your children where above it in the pecking order then the terrier would never dream of growling.

this is fact, you cant argue with it, i know a animal behavioural psychologist.

sorry mate but your not the alpha male in your dogs eyes. the dog is.

right mate i once owned a dog he wasn't a terrier he was a collie/grey, and this dog went for me when he was 9 month old even though this dog was well socialised as he was a house dog. growing up with 4 kids this dog never growled at any of us after that day until 8 years later and my 5 year old nephew was in the house and the dog turned and bit his face, leaving dreadful scars that dog should have been pts and if i ever have another dog that shows any aggression towards any human it will be pts no questions asked and dont go on about the dog not been trained properly as that is bollox some dogs have got that edge dont learn the way i have as a little lad is scarred for life and i will always feel guilty for not acting sooner

[Brimmer 220]

Here's my thoughts on it for what they are worth, I think some dogs are bred unsound, and for a reason and a job to be done.

 

Unfortunately the same drive we want backfires on us and why we want them.

 

I have an 8 yr old Russel, he's dodged the bullet so many times which i don't want to go into. After all these years i'm almost halfway there in having the dog I want.

 

He cannot mix with other dogs, he's had the chances to socialize, but will nail anything aggresive in his path.

 

His drive is what I wanted, but that cannot be calmed for love nor money, but is what makes him usefull on his own.

 

I don't have kids, but he has growled and snapped at the Mrs when she tries to get him outside, (Her fault she makes eye contact and does not mean it, told her to try the brush but she's not that violent.) Just the word OUT from myself and he's off.

 

I'm sure some dogs are made up that way, and nothing will change them no matter what, and our breeding programme plays a part in this.

 

(Not seen a lurcher turn on a kid or growl at anyone yet.)