hunting ban

[working_boy_jamie 0]

ban what ban

[Leeview 791]

Dont have any connections to the arsepca for a start, Leeview is a kennel prefix of a greyhound used to have, my names Sean FitzGerald and anyone wanting to check out allshiresferretclub show results can see how successfull I was over a 2-3 year period, going back further any coursing cards north of the M62 will have my name on as an official, and back in the early 90's can be seen on Lurchermania and Coneycatcher11, I also have Daily Mirror cuttings from Dec'72 after witnessing a murder while out ferreting and was ferreting way before that(at least 15yrs) So once and for all in the words of Eamon Andrews droid This Is Your Life lets hear it LOL

Y.I.S Leeview

[bez 0]

what have i started here lol

[droid 11]

Dont have any connections to the arsepca for a start, Leeview is a kennel prefix of a greyhound used to have, my names Sean FitzGerald and anyone wanting to check out allshiresferretclub show results can see how successfull I was over a 2-3 year period, going back further any coursing cards north of the M62 will have my name on as an official, and back in the early 90's can be seen on Lurchermania and Coneycatcher11, I also have Daily Mirror cuttings from Dec'72 after witnessing a murder while out ferreting and was ferreting way before that(at least 15yrs) So once and for all in the words of Eamon Andrews droid This Is Your Life lets hear it LOL

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Impressive.

 

I found a body on the moors above Hathersage once.

 

But you DO have a connection with the RSPCA. You were on a forum that contained an officer in said organisation. Well, according to your 'logic' anyway.

 

So, Mr FitzGerald.

What has all this got to do with my original opinion that saying the hunting ban had 'destroyed the UK' was getting things out of proportion?

 

[Leeview 791]

Dont have any connections to the arsepca for a start, Leeview is a kennel prefix of a greyhound used to have, my names Sean FitzGerald and anyone wanting to check out allshiresferretclub show results can see how successfull I was over a 2-3 year period, going back further any coursing cards north of the M62 will have my name on as an official, and back in the early 90's can be seen on Lurchermania and Coneycatcher11, I also have Daily Mirror cuttings from Dec'72 after witnessing a murder while out ferreting and was ferreting way before that(at least 15yrs) So once and for all in the words of Eamon Andrews droid This Is Your Life lets hear it LOL

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Impressive.

 

I found a body on the moors above Hathersage once.

 

But you DO have a connection with the RSPCA. You were on a forum that contained an officer in said organisation. Well, according to your 'logic' anyway.

 

So, Mr FitzGerald.

What has all this got to do with my original opinion that saying the hunting ban had 'destroyed the UK' was getting things out of proportion?

 

mine was a murder and suicide, on flaming ferret I stood alone as I worked my ferrets, was slated for giving a ferret away,(even though she had won a Supreme show title) she did nt come up to the mark as a worker, then there was the gene episode where you were claiming you could nt breed for working as there isnt a gene for it, you were against line breeding as you still are, as for association with the arsepca officer(greywolf) I was a member you were the root moderator and had control,infact did nt flaming ferret have issues with this site over treatment of ferrets?

Y.I.S Leeview

[Elvis1000 16]

coursing forever

[carp777 191]

coursing forever

i'll only stop coursing when i want to no politician or anybody else will ever stop me simple as that, i do what i want when i want and where i want, i don't really care about the ban because i have'nt stopped coursing and i will carry on repealed or not

[droid 11]

mine was a murder and suicide, on flaming ferret I stood alone as I worked my ferrets, was slated for giving a ferret away,(even though she had won a Supreme show title) she did nt come up to the mark as a worker, then there was the gene episode where you were claiming you could nt breed for working as there isnt a gene for it, you were against line breeding as you still are, as for association with the arsepca officer(greywolf) I was a member you were the root moderator and had control,infact did nt flaming ferret have issues with this site over treatment of ferrets?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Mine was suicide. Oddly, he was related to a workmate of my rock-climbing partner at the time.....

 

Sure, I was a moderator. But as long as they kept it reasonably civil, no-one got censored. You had your say without any interference from me.

The line-breeding episode you mention was on another Pet forum you were on, the late unlamented 'Right to Reply'. And you're right. My opinions haven't changed, because no-one has provided any data to persuade me to change my mind.

 

The Flaming issue was with culling. There's plenty on here that don't agree with that, so your point is?

[Leeview 791]

mine was a murder and suicide, on flaming ferret I stood alone as I worked my ferrets, was slated for giving a ferret away,(even though she had won a Supreme show title) she did nt come up to the mark as a worker, then there was the gene episode where you were claiming you could nt breed for working as there isnt a gene for it, you were against line breeding as you still are, as for association with the arsepca officer(greywolf) I was a member you were the root moderator and had control,infact did nt flaming ferret have issues with this site over treatment of ferrets?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Mine was suicide. Oddly, he was related to a workmate of my rock-climbing partner at the time.....

 

Sure, I was a moderator. But as long as they kept it reasonably civil, no-one got censored. You had your say without any interference from me.

The line-breeding episode you mention was on another Pet forum you were on, the late unlamented 'Right to Reply'. And you're right. My opinions haven't changed, because no-one has provided any data to persuade me to change my mind.

 

The Flaming issue was with culling. There's plenty on here that don't agree with that, so your point is?

on the contrary many genuine breeders on here do agree with culling stock(not just ferrets) that does nt make the grade work wise, read the thread concerning the choc patterdale at stud, did nt get much support on here did it? why because it was nt worked so was of no interest to anybody on a working site, jrtxgreyhound thread why's he giving them away free now? there not tested for working so once again nobody wants them.

Line breeding was on ff definately the woman from Australia(had a ferret called Azalea) was strongly against it, had loads of answers on paper but when pointed out that Makybe Diva( 3 times Melbourne Cup winner2003-4-5) her pedigree had the worlds most predominant sire in her pedigree 3 times(Northern Dancer) she still could handle the fact that you have to breed the best to the best and hope for the best, as for changing your mind on your opinions please provide evidence where a Blackpool donkeyx top stallion (of your choice) has ever won a group1 or any race against race horses

Any of you"plenty" that dont agree with culling please feel free to comment

Y.I.S Leeview

Edited February 7, 2009 by Leeview

[greg64 2,859]

It's not so much 'I'm alright Jack' as resigned reality.

 

 

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Hunting, as prcatised by people on here has bugger all economic significance.

 

really droid i think your really naive if you think that the hunting folk on here have no economic significance,very dissapointing outlook for someone on a hunting forum,

Edited February 6, 2009 by greg64

[droid 11]

really droid i think your really naive if you think that the hunting folk on here have no economic significance,very dissapointing outlook for someone on a hunting forum,

 

I didn't say 'no' economic significance, I said 'bugger all', ie very little.

 

That's compared with many other past-times/hobbies/addictions.....

What I'm saying is, we've got very little economic power, so the buggers in Government will do as they like.

 

 

It might be disappointing, but it's reality. Money talks with politicians.

 

 

Lets put it like this: a while back, I bought a decent PCP air rifle with a few bells and whistles. It cost £450. It's all I need to go hunting (though half decent eyesight might be useful too).

 

I could spend 3 times that much on an angling setup. Actually there's no 'could'. I have. And I can easily spend a tenner on bait every time I go out.

But the main thing is, there's possibly a million people out there that'd happily spend the same on fishing tackle.

 

How many hunters are there? And how much do they spend?

 

I'm not saying it's right, but it's the way it is.

The 'disappointing outlook' is from our politicians, who only look to votes, not to what's right.

[Guest mickyrichardson]

Droid how much do you think a couple of dogs few ferrets hunting equipment vet bills dog food will cost i think it will be a dam sight more than your poxy fishing gear and worms

[droid 11]

on the contrary many genuine breeders on here do agree with culling stock(not just ferrets) that does nt make the grade work wise, read the thread concerning the choc patterdale at stud, did nt get much support on here did it? why because it was nt worked so was of no interest to anybody on a working site, jrtxgreyhound thread why's he giving them away free now? there not tested for working so once again nobody wants them.

Line breeding was on ff definately the woman from Australia(mystika?) was strongly against it, had loads of answers on paper but when pointed out that Makybe Diva( 3 times Melbourne Cup winner2003-4-5) her pedigree had the worlds most predominant sire in her pedigree 3 times(Northern Dancer) she still could handle the fact that you have to breed the best to the best and hope for the best, as for changing your mind on your opinions please provide evidence where a Blackpool donkeyx top stallion (of your choice) has ever won a group1 or any race against race horses

Any of you"plenty" that dont agree with culling please feel free to comment

Y.I.S Leeview

 

It's not 'contrary' at all. Some agree with culling. some don't. It's a free choice people make and I've got no problem with that.

 

And you're right. You breed from the best and hope for the best. That's the point I've been trying to make: in genetics you can't guarantee anything.

 

[droid 11]

Droid how much do you think a couple of dogs few ferrets hunting equipment vet bills dog food will cost i think it will be a dam sight more than your poxy fishing gear and worms

 

I'd think it was a helluva lot. Especially the vet's fees.

But my point is that there's relatively few people that spend that sort of dosh. I know people who wouldn't bat an eyelid at paying £3000 for a pole. Or £600 for a seatbox. Some of the prices in the angling mags make your eyes bleed.

 

And not all my fishing gear is 'poxy'.....only some of it.....

[will.f11 24]

mine was a murder and suicide, on flaming ferret I stood alone as I worked my ferrets, was slated for giving a ferret away,(even though she had won a Supreme show title) she did nt come up to the mark as a worker, then there was the gene episode where you were claiming you could nt breed for working as there isnt a gene for it, you were against line breeding as you still are, as for association with the arsepca officer(greywolf) I was a member you were the root moderator and had control,infact did nt flaming ferret have issues with this site over treatment of ferrets?

Y.I.S Leeview

 

Mine was suicide. Oddly, he was related to a workmate of my rock-climbing partner at the time.....

 

Sure, I was a moderator. But as long as they kept it reasonably civil, no-one got censored. You had your say without any interference from me.

The line-breeding episode you mention was on another Pet forum you were on, the late unlamented 'Right to Reply'. And you're right. My opinions haven't changed, because no-one has provided any data to persuade me to change my mind.

 

The Flaming issue was with culling. There's plenty on here that don't agree with that, so your point is?

on the contrary many genuine breeders on here do agree with culling stock(not just ferrets) that does nt make the grade work wise, read the thread concerning the choc patterdale at stud, did nt get much support on here did it? why because it was nt worked so was of no interest to anybody on a working site, jrtxgreyhound thread why's he giving them away free now? there not tested for working so once again nobody wants them.

Line breeding was on ff definately the woman from Australia(had a ferret called Azalea) was strongly against it, had loads of answers on paper but when pointed out that Makybe Diva( 3 times Melbourne Cup winner2003-4-5) her pedigree had the worlds most predominant sire in her pedigree 3 times(Northern Dancer) she still could handle the fact that you have to breed the best to the best and hope for the best, as for changing your mind on your opinions please provide evidence where a Blackpool donkeyx top stallion (of your choice) has ever won a group1 or any race against race horses

Any of you"plenty" that dont agree with culling please feel free to comment

Y.I.S Leeview

I agree with culling ferrets in line breeding. But not too keen on the idea of culling dogs