Greyhound Foxes

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

who gives a shit how big it was,not me,couldnt give a shite aslong as the farmers are happy!

 

 

Why make a post titled HUGE FOX then ????????????????? :wankerzo4: :11:

[Guest miller1989]

A bit harsh pal in fairness to miller anglers can estimate the weight of fish down to a T before long. so he would have a good idea of the weight of the fox. just give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

Thanks!

 

I would like to add yes i like my fishing, yes i weigh them on SCALES but i do an average weight aswell and a pound in or out what does it matter it was 20lb and above without any doubt! cameras never do any justice for nothing!

 

No need to weigh a fox! Or am i wrong?

 

A job complete thats all!

 

And trust me foxhunter ive had my fair share of foxes over the years working dogs only,and brought up and taken oput from a young age from very experience people!

[Guest miller1989]

Why make a post titled HUGE FOX then ????????????????? :wankerzo4: :11:

 

HUGE DOG FOX actually so there you go again your wrong! Was just a title,get a fecking grip mate!

 

 

Oh and seem as you like to insult people and have your say, seem as your the only onethat has a problem with the size of the vermin!

 

Get to spec savers maybe your visions blurred a bit and cant see the photo properly! :wankerzo4:

Edited February 4, 2009 by miller1989

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

:11: :11: :11: Where did you get the tracky bottoms for digging from , real quality :crazy:

 

Can you actually tell the difference between a dog and a vixen ????

 

This fox weighed 10 stone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :11: :11:

 

Edited February 4, 2009 by FOXHUNTER

[wink hound 0]

herdwick, this will hark back to the days when many people believed there were different strains around the country, back when hunting with hounds was proper many consider there to be different strains with the big grayish leggy greyhound fox being the superior. i think back then it was quite possible, but due to better and better networks of hunts and transport, many foxes were shifted about and we have ended up with a fairly standard fox throughout the UK, we are an island after all.

 

i think these greyhound foxes were also commonly known as hill foxes, there were also considered to be lowland foxes, similar type to the one most see today and then a smaller bully type which were ment to frequent the shires and some coastal regions. it is a fact that high prices were paid for these greyhound foxes and fox poaching did happen. some of the original stone fox traps were for this very reason. a handsome price could be fetch for a nice dog or vixen and cubs from a master of the time and it was not un-heard of for foxes to travel by rail. i have seen old invoices and letters from people asking for foxes and discussing types.

 

no one on here can say whether its fact or fiction as no one was there to witness it, but given the evidence above and elsewhere i think there is a fairly compelling case for it, they terrier and hunting folk of yester year certainly believed it.

[Guest miller1989]

:11: :11: :11: Where did you get the tracky bottoms for digging from , real quality :crazy:

 

Can you actually tell the difference between a dog and a vixen ????

 

This fox weighed 10 stone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :11: :11:

 

 

 

Got warned about this site and cocks like you,you need to grow up mr perfect! In future we will aviod one another i will be the bigger man and let you win instead of f*****g someones topic!SAD SAD MAN!

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

[Bosun11 537]

herdwick, this will hark back to the days when many people believed there were different strains around the country, back when hunting with hounds was proper many consider there to be different strains with the big grayish leggy greyhound fox being the superior. i think back then it was quite possible, but due to better and better networks of hunts and transport, many foxes were shifted about and we have ended up with a fairly standard fox throughout the UK, we are an island after all.

 

i think these greyhound foxes were also commonly known as hill foxes, there were also considered to be lowland foxes, similar type to the one most see today and then a smaller bully type which were ment to frequent the shires and some coastal regions. it is a fact that high prices were paid for these greyhound foxes and fox poaching did happen. some of the original stone fox traps were for this very reason. a handsome price could be fetch for a nice dog or vixen and cubs from a master of the time and it was not un-heard of for foxes to travel by rail. i have seen old invoices and letters from people asking for foxes and discussing types.

 

no one on here can say whether its fact or fiction as no one was there to witness it, but given the evidence above and elsewhere i think there is a fairly compelling case for it, they terrier and hunting folk of yester year certainly believed it.

 

 

Crackin reply Wink Hound.

 

I've just looked into where I first read about greyhound foxes and it came from Plummers Fell Terrier, now for all his ramblings, it's the one book of his worth merit, if only for going to the lenths to make it.

 

What it states in there is that, though many old time fell men belived they did exist, no evidence has ever been produced, he also states that foxes running over a fell side do look much bigger due to terrain and that diet, being more sparce for the fell fox than southern foxes, would add to this 'illusion'.

 

All food for thought....!

 

[top terrierman 90]

i have heard of stroys of old hunting lads about grey foxs hear in ireland that where biger then the red fox but alot of you know most of the older hunters love talking shit and telling stroys not them all but some.the only thing i have come across is diffrent scades of red on the foxs from a dark red to a real light nearly browny colour.their is some big foxes out their i only started to bringing a camrea this season because last season i dug the biggest dog fox i have ever seen and had no camrea would be nice to get a picture of a grey fox.

[herdwick 52]

Thanks for the serious replies.

I did say in the original post that these greyhound foxes probably died out early in the last century. Richard Clapham mentions them in his books, even wrote Lakeland Grey about them. I just wondered if anyone had any info about them, perhaps tales heard from some of the old terrier boys.

Thanks.

[herdwick 52]

When I first posted this thread I was hoping someone might be able to add to the information already gathered for a post on another website. The article had already been written when some new info. was found. The author was not pleased as he had to do a rewrite!

However the article is now finished and for those interested it can be found at www.cumbrian-lad.com. The Lost Foxes of Lakeland.

 

The author asked me to thank those who took the trouble to post answers to this thread.

 

 

As countryboyo and busterdog obviously took a lot of time and trouble with their answers perhaps they could share with me the links and/or books used in their research :wankerzo4:

[indiana 1]

I am impressed when I see the pics of your foxes over there. The big ones seem to be twice the size of ours here. A real big fox here is 15 lbs.

[indiana 1]

I am impressed when I see the pics of your foxes over there. The big ones seem to be twice the size of ours here. A real big fox here is 15 lbs.

 

the red fox was intoduced to you country by the brittish settlers??? Do you still have many red or is it mostly your native grey fox you hunt?? They climb trees dont they to avoid hounds??

We have both here, and coyotes. I hardly ever see a grey any more. I see a few reds every year. The coyotes outnumber the fox around here about 10 to 1.

[indiana 1]

I am impressed when I see the pics of your foxes over there. The big ones seem to be twice the size of ours here. A real big fox here is 15 lbs.

 

the red fox was intoduced to you country by the brittish settlers??? Do you still have many red or is it mostly your native grey fox you hunt?? They climb trees dont they to avoid hounds??

We have both here, and coyotes. I hardly ever see a grey any more. I see a few reds every year. The coyotes outnumber the fox around here about 10 to 1.

 

can you recommend a good website or forums or even dvd for purchase that shows coyotes being taken by dogs, hounds or Stags or others. ?? My bddy has a reall nice coyote head be bought from a US seller on E bay i showed it to my lurchers out the window they went psycho

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[wetdogsmell 99]

congratulations on your hard won victory