sidrana7 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Well as per law storage of cartridges does not warrant a separate cabinet. But it may be viewed as 'safer' by the FEO to have them stored safely. In this case if I get one cabinet meant for 4 guns and store 2 shotguns and cartridges in the same. Would this be acceptable? The motive would be to save extra costs associated with separate cabinet and installation. As far as I see its only for shotguns and cartridges. Opinions please. Quote Link to post
Geoff.C 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'm sure that will be fine. I think most FEO's are happy if the shotguns are secured, and the ammo is just out of sight. If you can get it under lock and key, then so much the better. Firearm ammo has to be secured in approved cabinet or box. When you eventually get more shotguns, (oh yes you will), you could secure an old army ammo box to the floor, and keep shot shells in that. Quote Link to post
sidrana7 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I'm sure that will be fine. I think most FEO's are happy if the shotguns are secured, and the ammo is just out of sight. If you can get it under lock and key, then so much the better. Firearm ammo has to be secured in approved cabinet or box. When you eventually get more shotguns, (oh yes you will), you could secure an old army ammo box to the floor, and keep shot shells in that. Thanks Geoff.C for the prompt reply. I too believe this arrangement should be legally OK for the time being. Once again I repeat that this post has been raised only for the shotgun and cartridges for it. To concur on what you said about much better, if you have kids in home where you store shotgun cartridges it is recommended to keep it under lock and key (not only out of sight!). But for cartridges it does not warrant for the 'gun safe' as such. Any safe which has no access to anyone other than the certificate holder should be perfectly fine. Now please correct me if wrong. Thanks for the suggestion of army ammo box. Will google it soon. As for now the flat being kindda older modern, has got attic where the concrete bricks can be useful for securing the safe to the wall in there. And one more option is in one wardrobe floor. But I am doubtful how thick is the floor concrete to drill safely without making a hole in the roof of flat underneath. lol. I recon many members would advise on having the cabinet down for rust/damp/moisture reasons. But seems like some members have provided with some valuable solutions for these problems. And for cartridges to be in good condition require to be stored in room temperature. well my travel handbag should do justice with being locked and kept out of sight over the cupboard and in room temperature instead of attic. Once again please correct me if I am going in wrong direction. Many thanks. Quote Link to post
Geoff.C 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 You are right with all you say mate. I was not thinking about kids being about, so shotshells need to be more than out of sight.(My lad once was sent home from school, for dropping bricks on some 6mm blanks which I had not put away!!) Could have been much worse though! Just think what you may do in the future, if you are likely to to go FAC and get a rifle, you may be better in the long run to get a suitable cabinet now. Otherwise the two guns and the ammo in a four gun cab will be spot-on. I would always have the cabinet in the warm if possible, but guns kept in a attic/loft located cabinet don't seem to come to any harm. The shells may not like it though, so we are back to the ex WD ammo box again. Quote Link to post
Guest Mass_G3nocide Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I was told by my Firearms officer that the ammo has to be seperate to the guns but things are different here. Quote Link to post
sidrana7 0 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 You are right with all you say mate. I was not thinking about kids being about, so shotshells need to be more than out of sight.(My lad once was sent home from school, for dropping bricks on some 6mm blanks which I had not put away!!) Could have been much worse though!Just think what you may do in the future, if you are likely to to go FAC and get a rifle, you may be better in the long run to get a suitable cabinet now. Otherwise the two guns and the ammo in a four gun cab will be spot-on. I would always have the cabinet in the warm if possible, but guns kept in a attic/loft located cabinet don't seem to come to any harm. The shells may not like it though, so we are back to the ex WD ammo box again. Thanks Geoff.C Your point of future requirements well received. Will consider it before making any decision. Mass_G3nocide Well you sure it was for shotguns shells? I am not sure about law in Wales but not expecting to be much different from what here in Scotland! Quote Link to post
claybusers al 9 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 in the uk there is no legislation on cartridges apart from a licence to buy them you can keep them any where but use common sense always buy the biggest cabinet you can afford and fit as you WILL get more guns and remember bulk cartridges are cheaper you will struggle to get 1000 cartridges and guns in a cabinet Quote Link to post
Guest Mass_G3nocide Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 You are right with all you say mate. I was not thinking about kids being about, so shotshells need to be more than out of sight.(My lad once was sent home from school, for dropping bricks on some 6mm blanks which I had not put away!!) Could have been much worse though!Just think what you may do in the future, if you are likely to to go FAC and get a rifle, you may be better in the long run to get a suitable cabinet now. Otherwise the two guns and the ammo in a four gun cab will be spot-on. I would always have the cabinet in the warm if possible, but guns kept in a attic/loft located cabinet don't seem to come to any harm. The shells may not like it though, so we are back to the ex WD ammo box again. Thanks Geoff.C Your point of future requirements well received. Will consider it before making any decision. Mass_G3nocide Well you sure it was for shotguns shells? I am not sure about law in Wales but not expecting to be much different from what here in Scotland! Shot gun shells and any type of ammo. Quote Link to post
sidrana7 0 Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Shot gun shells and any type of ammo. Well To make sure I just emailed to the firearms office. Will revert back once get reply from them. cheers Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Shot gun shells and any type of ammo. Well To make sure I just emailed to the firearms office. Will revert back once get reply from them. cheers No legal requirement to lock up shotgun cartridges, just need to keep them "safe", a cabinet is a good idea if you have the space, but your FEO may have his own ideas/suggestions and it's him you need to keep happy!!! Whatever, if you need a cabinet have a look here and if there is anything you like PM me and I'll let you know best price I can do!! http://www.djsproducts.com/ Cheers Deker Quote Link to post
dicehorn 38 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I'm sure that will be fine. I think most FEO's are happy if the shotguns are secured, and the ammo is just out of sight. If you can get it under lock and key, then so much the better. Firearm ammo has to be secured in approved cabinet or box. When you eventually get more shotguns, (oh yes you will), you could secure an old army ammo box to the floor, and keep shot shells in that. As for now the flat being kindda older modern, has got attic where the concrete bricks can be useful for securing the safe to the wall in there. Dont know about your personal circumstances, but I am assuming your flat is rented, in which case you will have to ask permission from your landlord to store guns in the flat and also the location. I am a landlord and my tenant had to do this, Peter Quote Link to post
bobby b 0 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) I think how ever many guns you think your gonna have double it and add 2 thats how big of a cabinet you need that way you will always have plenty of room for guns or cartridges but the cartridges dont need to be locked away from the guns.They just need to be out of site. Edited February 1, 2009 by bobby b Quote Link to post
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