air gun price

[Guest air gunner]

YEP but there must be some good points of higher priced things such as longevity and concistency?

[ChrisJones 7,975]

Yeah Move To Germany

There Isn't a Limit On The Autobahns Is The?

Or Am I Wrong Lol?

Don't think so... even if there is it's much higher than here.

 

YEP but there must be some good points of higher priced things such as longevity and concistency?

Depends on the manufacturer but generally higher priced, means higher spec and usually better components.

[Jayd 0]

Yeah Move To Germany

There Isn't a Limit On The Autobahns Is The?

Or Am I Wrong Lol?

 

In theory, but considering the amount of roadworks on there that force speed limits...

 

YEP but there must be some good points of higher priced things such as longevity and concistency?

 

There usually is, but aren't Beretta, a well known manufacturing company, behind Stoeger air guns, which are quite cheap? I imagine it's like CJ says, the quality of components. Same with almost everything, cheap chinese motorcycles are usually just as good as the Jap versions, but are built down to a price with cheaper components. I know my chinese bike has a tendency to rust a lot

Edited January 27, 2009 by Jayd

[j davies 8]

i have been thinking this too i bought a bsa supersport and have been thinking of buying a pcp the thing is i can get a group of 4 in a 2cm/2cm hole at 30yrds max recomended distance for game. so why do i want a pcp?!!! i want to buy the logun up for sale but cant bring myself to becasue it wont be much better i will still only be able to shoot at the same range so what benefits are there to a pcp?!?!?!?! help! brand names mate i do a load of mountain biking and ride an aftermarket bike the place i ride you see these blokes on 2grand bikes and i can out huck style and trick them 10 times over (not boasting or anything) its not usually the tool or though it does help but its the workman use a cheap gun get good then treat yourself i say but only if there is benifits such as multi shot lighter quieter you know the jiz.

 

is this not the sight and not the gun that make you hit the target. and before you all say yes its what you pay for then i would like to say this

if i pay 400 for an air gun and its 12 ft and get one for 800 and its 12 ft whats the diff if we are saying its better at hitting the target at a set distance than you are right.

thats all i wanted to no but not that it hits the target more that is the telliscopic sight not the gun

[klarakoi 0]

i have been thinking this too i bought a bsa supersport and have been thinking of buying a pcp the thing is i can get a group of 4 in a 2cm/2cm hole at 30yrds max recomended distance for game. so why do i want a pcp?!!! i want to buy the logun up for sale but cant bring myself to becasue it wont be much better i will still only be able to shoot at the same range so what benefits are there to a pcp?!?!?!?! help! brand names mate i do a load of mountain biking and ride an aftermarket bike the place i ride you see these blokes on 2grand bikes and i can out huck style and trick them 10 times over (not boasting or anything) its not usually the tool or though it does help but its the workman use a cheap gun get good then treat yourself i say but only if there is benifits such as multi shot lighter quieter you know the jiz.

 

is this not the sight and not the gun that make you hit the target. and before you all say yes its what you pay for then i would like to say this

if i pay 400 for an air gun and its 12 ft and get one for 800 and its 12 ft whats the diff if we are saying its better at hitting the target at a set distance than you are right.

thats all i wanted to no but not that it hits the target more that is the telliscopic sight not the gun

 

JD,

In a nutshell, "Gamo-BSA". same power, massive difference in price, same manufacture.

[Jayd 0]

i have been thinking this too i bought a bsa supersport and have been thinking of buying a pcp the thing is i can get a group of 4 in a 2cm/2cm hole at 30yrds max recomended distance for game. so why do i want a pcp?!!! i want to buy the logun up for sale but cant bring myself to becasue it wont be much better i will still only be able to shoot at the same range so what benefits are there to a pcp?!?!?!?! help! brand names mate i do a load of mountain biking and ride an aftermarket bike the place i ride you see these blokes on 2grand bikes and i can out huck style and trick them 10 times over (not boasting or anything) its not usually the tool or though it does help but its the workman use a cheap gun get good then treat yourself i say but only if there is benifits such as multi shot lighter quieter you know the jiz.

 

is this not the sight and not the gun that make you hit the target. and before you all say yes its what you pay for then i would like to say this

if i pay 400 for an air gun and its 12 ft and get one for 800 and its 12 ft whats the diff if we are saying its better at hitting the target at a set distance than you are right.

thats all i wanted to no but not that it hits the target more that is the telliscopic sight not the gun

 

Is that strictly true though? Because if a gun is a bit erratic, surely even with the best intentions in the world, it won't hit the target all of the time?

[j davies 8]

YEP but there must be some good points of higher priced things such as longevity and concistency?

 

name them please lol

 

tell me what the diff is between them

[j davies 8]

i have been thinking this too i bought a bsa supersport and have been thinking of buying a pcp the thing is i can get a group of 4 in a 2cm/2cm hole at 30yrds max recomended distance for game. so why do i want a pcp?!!! i want to buy the logun up for sale but cant bring myself to becasue it wont be much better i will still only be able to shoot at the same range so what benefits are there to a pcp?!?!?!?! help! brand names mate i do a load of mountain biking and ride an aftermarket bike the place i ride you see these blokes on 2grand bikes and i can out huck style and trick them 10 times over (not boasting or anything) its not usually the tool or though it does help but its the workman use a cheap gun get good then treat yourself i say but only if there is benifits such as multi shot lighter quieter you know the jiz.

 

yes mate i understand that with bikes yes but air guns are diff you get them at 12 ft same as any other so its only the looks that makes them good and what is a chear air gun any one tell me

[Guest air gunner]

very good point. A cheap air gun in my opinion is a chinese made one for about £30-£150 past that it should be good. tell me this though between an aas410 and the bsa supersport which would you buy if they were the same price and looks wernt an issue? Rhetorical question obviosly the s410 because its better multi shot quiet no recoil but then this bit gets me you need to buy an air bottle £100 more springer however is only £70 per 5 years for a spring. all in perspective. help do i look for a new gun (pcp) or is it not worth it?

[jazz_11 5]

you do pay for the name be honest...

but then again like the ferrari landrover and escort. yes the ferrari is loads but it will handle better, maybe accelerate faster ete etc...

whereas with a good spring and a good pcp like s410, the s410 will be quiter, easier to load, you get the 10 shot mag which is good... its little things like that which i believe make up a good gun,,... the bsa ultra is a good little gun not very expensive its multi shot but it has its downfalls you will only get about 30 full power shots. whereas a s410 you will get about 80ish.... im only using the s410 as a example as i have one and i find them very good... so yes you do pay for the name but also little qualities which make it a good gun..

 

cheers

jazz

Edited January 28, 2009 by jazz_11

[hiho 5]

you do pay for the name be honest...

but then again like the ferrari landrover and escort. yes the ferrari is loads but it will handle better, maybe accelerate faster ete etc...

whereas with a good spring and a good pcp like s410, the s410 will be quiter, easier to load, you get the 10 shot mag which is good... its little things like that which i believe make up a good gun,,... the bsa ultra is a good little gun not very expensive its multi shot but it has its downfalls you will only get about 30 full power shots. whereas a s410 you will get about 80ish.... im only using the s410 as a example as i have one and i find them very good... so yes you do pay for the name but also little qualities which make it a good gun..

 

cheers

jazz

And with a springer you get infinity shots

[jazz_11 5]

very true.......

[j davies 8]

very good point. A cheap air gun in my opinion is a chinese made one for about £30-£150 past that it should be good. tell me this though between an aas410 and the bsa supersport which would you buy if they were the same price and looks wernt an issue? Rhetorical question obviosly the s410 because its better multi shot quiet no recoil but then this bit gets me you need to buy an air bottle £100 more springer however is only £70 per 5 years for a spring. all in perspective. help do i look for a new gun (pcp) or is it not worth it?

s410 because all i need to do is top up with air and im away. itsa not the muli shot not asked anout that i go hunnting and if it take me 5 seconds to load it than be it with a spring gun its not quiet as the s 410.

and before we all say this see its what you pay ror well i payed 400 for my s400 to me its not cheap at all

if it cost another 100 for the bottle then i would pay it as this is not part of the gun its a part i need to use the gun.

 

what is a cheap pcp gun

[ChrisJones 7,975]

You can pay thirty quid for a Chinese air rifle. If you're lucky you'll get one that can do close to 12ft/lbs. If you're average you'll get one that does 8. No amount of extra cash on tuning is going to make it any better as you can't polish a turd.

 

You can pay two hundred for a decent German air rifle. It'll give consistency because it's made with better components and machined to specific tolerances. Chinese air rifles tend to built by Chinese convicts, in the Chinese prison system. German rifles tend to be built by decent engineers, in decent factories, with decent equipment. With an FAC they're capable of up to 25 ft/lbs and have a market outside the UK that caters for air rifles that aren't restricted by our laws.

 

You can pay five hundred for a top line PCP. I have a Rapid Mk2 on FAC. It's more or less identical to the 12 ft/lbs version except that mine will do 80ft/lbs instead of 12. I have far less in usable shots but I don't care because I like the quirks of this particular rifle and I bought it because I'm weird like that.

 

Shin Sung make the Career707 and also the extreme Dragon Slayer, which isn't available in this country to my knowledge. It'll do 190+ft/lbs and launch a 200grain slug at around 570fps.

 

It comes down to personal preference. Yes, the UK limit is 12 ft/lbs but what a rifle is worth to you, is down to you. A car can only travel at 70mph legally but a decent car, made with quality components, and a reputation for reliability, is preferable to a cheap piece of shit, isn't it?

[klarakoi 0]

You can pay thirty quid for a Chinese air rifle. If you're lucky you'll get one that can do close to 12ft/lbs. If you're average you'll get one that does 8. No amount of extra cash on tuning is going to make it any better as you can't polish a turd.

 

You can pay two hundred for a decent German air rifle. It'll give consistency because it's made with better components and machined to specific tolerances. Chinese air rifles tend to built by Chinese convicts, in the Chinese prison system. German rifles tend to be built by decent engineers, in decent factories, with decent equipment. With an FAC they're capable of up to 25 ft/lbs and have a market outside the UK that caters for air rifles that aren't restricted by our laws.

 

You can pay five hundred for a top line PCP. I have a Rapid Mk2 on FAC. It's more or less identical to the 12 ft/lbs version except that mine will do 80ft/lbs instead of 12. I have far less in usable shots but I don't care because I like the quirks of this particular rifle and I bought it because I'm weird like that.

 

Shin Sung make the Career707 and also the extreme Dragon Slayer, which isn't available in this country to my knowledge. It'll do 190+ft/lbs and launch a 200grain slug at around 570fps.

 

It comes down to personal preference. Yes, the UK limit is 12 ft/lbs but what a rifle is worth to you, is down to you. A car can only travel at 70mph legally but a decent car, made with quality components, and a reputation for reliability, is preferable to a cheap piece of shit, isn't it?

 

You do have away with words Chris dont you,, lol,, Now then,,, dont you go slagging our little Chinese gun makers or you will have a hole lot of people on here calling you a R@&kcist you know whooooooooo,,,, but I dont understand about your post Chris why would you spend all that money on a 80FPE Rapid when you could get a rimmy for a fraction of the cost????? and no worries about bottles and the like,,,

Rob.