First Run

[Guest Gavkent]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

[Guest Catcher]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

Edited February 11, 2009 by Catcher

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ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

I have to agree with Catcher on this one. Some of your statements about training are just plain stupid. So it's all about numbers for you....what about being able to stop your dog on command when he tries to take of on something he shouldn't. Asbo called it correctly too you did get lucky but one day that luck will run out. You must be a joy to go ferreting with. An untrained dog is a liability and an accident waiting to happen. It actually says more about you than your dogs mate

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ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

catcher mate ,,,,,,,,, I was taught by some very clever dog owners many moons ago !!! that the 1st year of a dogs life is training , training, training ,, ie , sit, stay, lie down and of course how to over come obsticals such as fences all types barbed and electric and variouse other things that will help the dog along the way like posisioning youre dog at holes for bolting purposes !!!! Man did i get stick when i just started out !!!!The words GET THAT f*****g DOG UNDER CONTROL springs to mind 1nc you have that bond with youre dog it's THEN time to take it out ,,first start on rabbits as keano says , let the dog find its feet and know its quarry

ONLY THEN ,, When you feel that the dog is coming on well do you start moving it on to bigger and better stuff and even then take it slow !! As i have learned over the years TIME AND EFFORT ON BOTH THE DOG AND OWNER IS EVERYTHING !!!!!!

Just my oppinion but i'm sure it aint a bad 1 !!

[Guest Catcher]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

Edited February 16, 2009 by Catcher

[Guest Gavkent]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

[Guest Catcher]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

[Guest Gavkent]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

[Guest Catcher]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

 

 

Hi bawbag In case you dont know it luchers arent allowed in CRUFTS ? But you can try entering your bird

Edited February 16, 2009 by Catcher

[anythingoes 28]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

 

 

Hi bawbag In case you dont know it luchers arent allowed in CRUFTS ? But you can try entering your bird

 

There seems to be some contradictions hear !!! u say u dont train youre sight hound yet you smack its nose and rare it with chickens and so on !!!! Now sorry mate but in my eyes thats training !!! Dosent matter how you look at it ..

as i stated earlier training has a big part to play in a dogs working life as you say they are born to run but you are there to nurture those instincts not RUIN them !!!!!

Mohamad Alli didnt come world champ over nite it took TRAINING TIME AND EFFORT on both him and his trainer !!!!!!

I think you call it nurtchuring 1ns ability or bringing out its best !!! And as for the scotish jokes and selling on shit dogs THATS A BIG NO NO !!!

WHY SELL ON DEAD WOOD ????

[Guest Gavkent]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

 

 

Hi bawbag In case you dont know it luchers arent allowed in CRUFTS ? But you can try entering your bird

 

There seems to be some contradictions hear !!! u say u dont train youre sight hound yet you smack its nose and rare it with chickens and so on !!!! Now sorry mate but in my eyes thats training !!! Dosent matter how you look at it ..

as i stated earlier training has a big part to play in a dogs working life as you say they are born to run but you are there to nurture those instincts not RUIN them !!!!!

Mohamad Alli didnt come world champ over nite it took TRAINING TIME AND EFFORT on both him and his trainer !!!!!!

I think you call it nurtchuring 1ns ability or bringing out its best !!! And as for the scotish jokes and selling on shit dogs THATS A BIG NO NO !!!

WHY SELL ON DEAD WOOD ????

how is it training when i dont do it the dog does? i had chickens and ferrets before dogs, they just dont kill cos they are around all the time, thats not me is it, why does a hare dog need to sit? why does a hare dog need to stay when its on a lead? mine are never off lead cos a good hare dog wouldnt stop chasing a hare no matter how loud you shout or how well its trained, my dogs come straight back to me if they miss ready for next run, i didnt teach this. they know that I WILL FIND ANOTHER FOR THEM TO RUN. thats why they come back. put your time in and get as many runs as you can on different terrain,conditions etc. Ive been coursing 12 years never known someone who could stop there dog chasing hare by one command. salukis are stubborn try training saluki and youll get fed up, they do there own thing, chase. i think you may misunderstand me. practice is not training. training is teaching a dog to do specific commands. chasing hares is not a command its natural. if i tell my dogs to get in the back they do, i havent trained them to do it they just do, if they dont ill throw em in, your all collie men i think. carry on as you are i dont care, practice makes perfect, natural ability. mohammed ali was natural to boxing, as training to get fit is all he needed. tyson, natural, trained boxers nigel benn, frank bruno, no comparison is there. as for the scottish jokes, tight how insulting is that compared to comments about your wife, effin worst thing in world that my friend. as for selling shite dogs i normally give them away if they jack once, but now i know you two i'll teach em to sit and stay and work em into you so they can Sit next to you in your armchairs and Fetch the TV remote.

[anythingoes 28]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

 

 

Hi bawbag In case you dont know it luchers arent allowed in CRUFTS ? But you can try entering your bird

 

There seems to be some contradictions hear !!! u say u dont train youre sight hound yet you smack its nose and rare it with chickens and so on !!!! Now sorry mate but in my eyes thats training !!! Dosent matter how you look at it ..

as i stated earlier training has a big part to play in a dogs working life as you say they are born to run but you are there to nurture those instincts not RUIN them !!!!!

Mohamad Alli didnt come world champ over nite it took TRAINING TIME AND EFFORT on both him and his trainer !!!!!!

I think you call it nurtchuring 1ns ability or bringing out its best !!! And as for the scotish jokes and selling on shit dogs THATS A BIG NO NO !!!

WHY SELL ON DEAD WOOD ????

how is it training when i dont do it the dog does? i had chickens and ferrets before dogs, they just dont kill cos they are around all the time, thats not me is it, why does a hare dog need to sit? why does a hare dog need to stay when its on a lead? mine are never off lead cos a good hare dog wouldnt stop chasing a hare no matter how loud you shout or how well its trained, my dogs come straight back to me if they miss ready for next run, i didnt teach this. they know that I WILL FIND ANOTHER FOR THEM TO RUN. thats why they come back. put your time in and get as many runs as you can on different terrain,conditions etc. Ive been coursing 12 years never known someone who could stop there dog chasing hare by one command. salukis are stubborn try training saluki and youll get fed up, they do there own thing, chase. i think you may misunderstand me. practice is not training. training is teaching a dog to do specific commands. chasing hares is not a command its natural. if i tell my dogs to get in the back they do, i havent trained them to do it they just do, if they dont ill throw em in, your all collie men i think. carry on as you are i dont care, practice makes perfect, natural ability. mohammed ali was natural to boxing, as training to get fit is all he needed. tyson, natural, trained boxers nigel benn, frank bruno, no comparison is there. as for the scottish jokes, tight how insulting is that compared to comments about your wife, effin worst thing in world that my friend. as for selling shite dogs i normally give them away if they jack once, but now i know you two i'll teach em to sit and stay and work em into you so they can Sit next to you in your armchairs and Fetch the TV remote.

 

 

You sound very narow minded !! a dog is still developing at the age you are running them at !! As you stated earlier YES you do risk ireversable injorie ! And yes i am a collie x man as i like allrounders !!! why have 3 diffrent dogs when with the right lurcher you just need the 1 ! Maybe you are right that Mohamid Ali and Tyson were naturals but they still needed the proper training to bring out that ability and how to get fit for a fight ,, as i dont think they would have done to well geting thrown in a ring of heavy weights at 12 years old !!! As you are doing with young dogs !!

As for armchair hunters you couldnt be further from the truth !!!

Sounds like you want to sprint before you can walk mate !!

 

You have to start some where!!

Edited February 17, 2009 by anythingoes

[Guest Catcher]

ill just say your very lucky for the dog to turn out the way it did you took a chance mate

took a chance on what? injury? if the dogs got it in the head what training does it need. not training its practice. why do you need a running dog to sit, stay. as long as they chase, catch, and come back thats all you need, why waste brain power, different for lamping dog, but most dogs dont need training its natural for them, my dogs 9 and caught 4 on sunday 1 on fen on hard ground three in fields. never been hurt in his life will not sit, stay but runs his heart out. done same thing with litter 3 yrs ago and had saluki x whippet catching on fen after running rabbits at 3 months out of sack. sold her few weeks ago and catching still with new owner, real triers these dogs with great strike. im not saying im right but seems to work for me, and ill keep doing it, look after them too well, pussy foot around end up with dog that doesnt know what to do when things get hard, still learning at 2 yrs when they should be getting their numbers.

 

 

Hi mate.Dont agree. Any dog your are takeing on to someone.s Ground that has livestock has to be trained.All young dogs whant to do is run about nuts and play they havent got a clue at 3 months.Yes they will chase even out of a sack but that is natural for any running dog most of them will chase there own tail at three months .First of all the reason we train the dog to sit.stay and so on is so we can keep the dog under control at all times and let it know who the boss is and gain it,s trust.and what is all this crap about if the dogs got it in it,s head.Most dogs have it in there head.Your duty as the owner is to train them how to use it best.You say as long as they chase, catch and come back(I think you mean retreave mate there is a differance)with what a hen ,goose,lamb sheep or the farmer,s cat.And who,s brain power is being wasted.In your case it,s debatable.You must mean the dog because your,s is empty And as for pussy footing around them.That is called responsibilty you ass and if you did know the slitest thing about a good running dog they are still learning at two years old P.S. This is the worst owner i have seen on this site.

 

 

Just had a P.M from Gavkent It seem he took affence to me telling him a untrained dog should not be on farm ground where livestock is kept.Ok bawbag nexts time you have any thing to say about me, my heritage or my dogs .Say it on the forum so we can all see what a fool you are Prick. Still No Reply No Bottle.Next time just admit you are wrong.

who said anything. livestock? dont run my dogs near livestock mate even if were trained a farmer has right to shoot dog, if your dog gets in with sheep and you say stay hes easier target. round here plenty of land no livestock any way once my dog run hare amongst cows run thru their legs stayed on hare not bothered. if my dogs do see sheep and ears prick up good smack on head with lead stops all that. just cos you think you no it all doesn't give u right to mention things about my wife though does it?. I have no problems with anyone but your entitled to your opinion as i am, but no need to get personal is there. as for your heritage its a joke all scots are tight. if that upset u im sorry and get over it cos if you carry on with the talk on pm, someone will say alot worse. reason i havent replied took my dog to put one up caught two of two. might mention ive got spaniel trained on whistle, stays, sits, retrieves, and flushes and works bush, so know how to train. my lamping dog comes straight back instantly when turn lamp off (no need to shout and scare off all the quarry) got hare dog all i want is to run...run,,,,run...catch. catch...catch if not catch comes straight back jumps in back window no need to shout come here doggy, or sit here doggy. the reason i took offence was u said give up before livestock or person gets hurt. your the prick mate, unless youve a fluffy tail and big ears my dogs wont hurt anyone, ive got two kids would i risk it? no. so leave it there shall we cos i think we both know we are both right, but the message you sent me was not detailed was it? I thought you were an anti giving it the biggen. if i had dogs that killed livestock i would get rid but i havent. by training i meant hare dogs. why waste time training them only for them to jack and then start over.

1.let them on few rabbits out of sack to sort good from bad.

2. feed them raw hare and rabbit.

3. get them fit.

4. let them chase.

5. if they jack sell em to someone like you who would rather a dog sits and stays than actually catches anything.

6. when they catch pet them up and feed there kill.

7. trot them 3 days a week then do the same thing.

what else does a good hare dog get from its owner? they have it them from birth its the dog that catches not the owner.

so know it all hows that have i answered your questions? ps whats a bawbag is that scottish gibberish. on second thoughts i dont care anyway cos thats what ill call catcher from now on. spk soon bawbag!

 

 

Hi are you trying to tell me you run you dogs through the same parks that cows are in.Do the cows lift there legs as the dogs go bye.Or do they just jump up in the air and sorry.If your dogs Prick there ears up at the sheep reprimand it.In fact when all is said and done you are a total woose.You have proven you cant train cant keep your dogs under control witch contraviens the 1953 LIVESTOCK ACT Sorry you probably dont know what this means.

are you reading the right text bawbag. reprimand. what is a smack on the head. how have i proven i cant train? or keep my dogs under control. the only thing i know is in 1953 i wasnt here and u were by sounds of it, who cares about acts. not me. are you one of these armchair coursers scared of police and getting caught? my dogs know what thyeyre doing and challenge you to a match. Run my dogs anywhere around cows if hare gets up. point i was making my hare dog chases hares not cows sheep, ive got chickens and they wont touch them. nor ferrets, nor harris hawk, i didnt train them not to do it they grew up around them, cant wait to see your running dogs on crufts agility show. lol. mate u seriously misunderstood my statements, so where are the replies to my other comments or do you actually agree to some of them. spk soon bawbag.

 

 

Hi bawbag In case you dont know it luchers arent allowed in CRUFTS ? But you can try entering your bird

 

There seems to be some contradictions hear !!! u say u dont train youre sight hound yet you smack its nose and rare it with chickens and so on !!!! Now sorry mate but in my eyes thats training !!! Dosent matter how you look at it ..

as i stated earlier training has a big part to play in a dogs working life as you say they are born to run but you are there to nurture those instincts not RUIN them !!!!!

Mohamad Alli didnt come world champ over nite it took TRAINING TIME AND EFFORT on both him and his trainer !!!!!!

I think you call it nurtchuring 1ns ability or bringing out its best !!! And as for the scotish jokes and selling on shit dogs THATS A BIG NO NO !!!

WHY SELL ON DEAD WOOD ????

how is it training when i dont do it the dog does? i had chickens and ferrets before dogs, they just dont kill cos they are around all the time, thats not me is it, why does a hare dog need to sit? why does a hare dog need to stay when its on a lead? mine are never off lead cos a good hare dog wouldnt stop chasing a hare no matter how loud you shout or how well its trained, my dogs come straight back to me if they miss ready for next run, i didnt teach this. they know that I WILL FIND ANOTHER FOR THEM TO RUN. thats why they come back. put your time in and get as many runs as you can on different terrain,conditions etc. Ive been coursing 12 years never known someone who could stop there dog chasing hare by one command. salukis are stubborn try training saluki and youll get fed up, they do there own thing, chase. i think you may misunderstand me. practice is not training. training is teaching a dog to do specific commands. chasing hares is not a command its natural. if i tell my dogs to get in the back they do, i havent trained them to do it they just do, if they dont ill throw em in, your all collie men i think. carry on as you are i dont care, practice makes perfect, natural ability. mohammed ali was natural to boxing, as training to get fit is all he needed. tyson, natural, trained boxers nigel benn, frank bruno, no comparison is there. as for the scottish jokes, tight how insulting is that compared to comments about your wife, effin worst thing in world that my friend. as for selling shite dogs i normally give them away if they jack once, but now i know you two i'll teach em to sit and stay and work em into you so they can Sit next to you in your armchairs and Fetch the TV remote.

 

 

Are you still rabbiting on about how you dont train your dogs as you say you had chickens and ferrets Did you keep them in the same pen?.Because you know nothing about dogs.Stick to the chickens you dont need to train them.

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here a pic off Catcher when he was a bite young with his dogs

 

that guy is far to thin to be Catcher,,,he was a fat f****r

[Guest Gavkent]

here a pic off Catcher when he was a bite young with his dogs

told ya, good trainer this guy, all those dogs sitting, colliex arent they. now i know why you have to train them so much cos you must slip em all to catch something. ps. about your no slip lead topic, if you dont like unclipping lead when lamping at every fence, get a longer slip lead and TEACH those dogs to jump.by the way i do train my chickens with weights and in water to get them fit, bet my cock against your dog.lol. as for the said topic where are all the comments about me being wrong about not TRAINING a hare dog. at the rate you are going youll be 60 before you get a decent hare dog. Edited February 18, 2009 by Gavkent