mccroryart 0 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I have been feeding my 5mth old whippet pup a whole range of stuff including eggs, fish, dog biscuits + leftover rice, pasta & veg, but mostly he gets minced meat which I buy frozen from the pet shop. I also give him SA37 in case I miss anything. He is doing well on this, full of energy and looking toned and healthy. The pet shop also sells dried meat which would be much handier to store – does anyone see any problems in switching from the frozen meat to the dried or should I just continue what I’m doing? Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diggermad 154 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 hi mate mine getexactly the same as yours but if you are going to switch him on to dry food keep him on it does no good switching back and too on the dogs digestive system but cantsee a problem keeping him on what he has now give him a cod liver oil tablet 1 capsule a day for his coat or evening primrose 1 a day ok mate DM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccroryart 0 Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 hi mate mine getexactly the same as yours but if you are going to switch him on to dry food keep him on it does no good switching back and too on the dogs digestive system but cantsee a problem keeping him on what he has now give him a cod liver oil tablet 1 capsule a day for his coat or evening primrose 1 a day ok mate DM Thanks Diggermad I'm not switching to a complete dry food diet just thinking of changing the meat bit to 'dried meat'. I was thinking that the frozen meat might be pumped full of water and the dried meat might be better for the dog. Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
diggermad 154 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 hi mate the meat from the pet shops are mainly full of water get to your local butchers he will sort you out no pork though mate cheers DM Quote Link to post Share on other sites
furdy 0 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 If you start to give dried meat he'll start drinking more and no pasta....!!!! Pasta is cereal based which is really a no no.... Raw bones are good too. once or twice a week to keep the jaw strong and teeth clean.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
threbb 0 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 I have been feeding my 5mth old whippet pup a whole range of stuff including eggs, fish, dog biscuits + leftover rice, pasta & veg, but mostly he gets minced meat which I buy frozen from the pet shop. I also give him SA37 in case I miss anything. He is doing well on this, full of energy and looking toned and healthy. The pet shop also sells dried meat which would be much handier to store – does anyone see any problems in switching from the frozen meat to the dried or should I just continue what I’m doing? Eamonn I think dried meat is seriously high in protien but that could just be what ive seen which was for greys. Im sure it was 60% so you would feed a lot less.Why dont you just try it? The trouble with mince is they can and do put any old crap in it and then just add blood for colour.If i could only get mince i would rather have tripe at least you know what it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 If you start to give dried meat he'll start drinking more and no pasta....!!!! Pasta is cereal based which is really a no no.... Raw bones are good too. once or twice a week to keep the jaw strong and teeth clean.. Why is cereal a no no? I feel a long essay on Lipogenesis is coming. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hornman Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 dried meat is a good high protein and soak it with hot water before feeding Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccroryart 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Thanks for the replies. Problem is I don’t normally go to a butchers and the supermarket ones look at you as if you have two heads if you ask for a dog bone. I tried the frozen mince but its not that easy to store. The dried meat is unlikely to go off and its supposedly very high in protein. The hot water softens it quite quickly so I think I’ll make a dog stew with it and add in a bit of veg or rice. The pup seems to like the softened meat and he gets enough fresh meat anyway from table scraps as I nearly put my kids off meat altogether by buying day old chicks and then rearing/slaughtering the chickens. I still give him tinned fish, eggs and supplements in case I miss anything. He probably has a better diet than me but then again no one is expecting me to run after rabbits any time soon. One more question - Is too much protein a bad thing for a pup? Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Thanks for the replies. Problem is I don’t normally go to a butchers and the supermarket ones look at you as if you have two heads if you ask for a dog bone. I tried the frozen mince but its not that easy to store. The dried meat is unlikely to go off and its supposedly very high in protein. The hot water softens it quite quickly so I think I’ll make a dog stew with it and add in a bit of veg or rice. The pup seems to like the softened meat and he gets enough fresh meat anyway from table scraps as I nearly put my kids off meat altogether by buying day old chicks and then rearing/slaughtering the chickens. I still give him tinned fish, eggs and supplements in case I miss anything. He probably has a better diet than me but then again no one is expecting me to run after rabbits any time soon. One more question - Is too much protein a bad thing for a pup? Eamonn A balenced diet is probably best and very high protein is not well balenced. Most people go for between 20-30% protein with fats and carbs making up the rest. Personally I'd only use dried meat in extraordinary circumstances and if you can't build a good diet go for a complete feed base diet with table scraps as available. It would be good if you can get occaisional access to a butcher for bones/meat now an again if not feeding the odd rabbit, after freezing/defrosting first etc. sandy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccroryart 0 Posted January 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks Sandy Looking at the other posts on feeding you certainly seem to have spent a lot of time and effort researching this topic. Why should dried meat only be used in exceptional circumstances? Is full of crap eg salt or does the drying process extract most of the goodness? Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Thanks Sandy Looking at the other posts on feeding you certainly seem to have spent a lot of time and effort researching this topic. Why should dried meat only be used in exceptional circumstances? Is full of crap eg salt or does the drying process extract most of the goodness? Eamonn Just from past experience it may contain little in the way of meat and a lot in the way of conective tissues + when I used it some years ago it tended to cause scouring. As a part of the diet I'm sure it would be fine but when compared to frozen pet mince or complete feeds it may work out rather expensive without giving any nutritional gain. A good complete tailored to age and exercise will contain very similer nutrients for a lot less money. If fed in the right quantities it shouldn't result in buckets of crap as many would have you believe as this tends to happen only if over fed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mccroryart 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Thanks Sandy Looking at the other posts on feeding you certainly seem to have spent a lot of time and effort researching this topic. Why should dried meat only be used in exceptional circumstances? Is full of crap eg salt or does the drying process extract most of the goodness? Eamonn Just from past experience it may contain little in the way of meat and a lot in the way of conective tissues + when I used it some years ago it tended to cause scouring. As a part of the diet I'm sure it would be fine but when compared to frozen pet mince or complete feeds it may work out rather expensive without giving any nutritional gain. A good complete tailored to age and exercise will contain very similer nutrients for a lot less money. If fed in the right quantities it shouldn't result in buckets of crap as many would have you believe as this tends to happen only if over fed. Thanks for the info Eamonn Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MTS 0 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I have been feeding my 5mth old whippet pup a whole range of stuff including eggs, fish, dog biscuits + leftover rice, pasta & veg, but mostly he gets minced meat which I buy frozen from the pet shop. I also give him SA37 in case I miss anything. He is doing well on this, full of energy and looking toned and healthy. The pet shop also sells dried meat which would be much handier to store – does anyone see any problems in switching from the frozen meat to the dried or should I just continue what I’m doing? Eamonn Hi Eamon Have you meat wholesalers locally, they can sell you meat and bones, lamb breasts, chicken carcasses, heart, kidney ,liver, pork bellies, pork ribs, pigs heads, You may have access to rabbit and maybe road kill deer etc,etc,etc If you get in with them they should let you have the contents of their rendering bucket, you will need a chest freezer to store it and a small fridge ( both can be bought second hand) to defrost it in before giving to the dog. Easy once you get into a routine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blacktabs 3 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 (edited) Chicken beef and brest of lamb from the butches dont cost much if your feeding a bit of what they catch too. Brown bred or good quality biscuit a bit of tinnned fish now and again and you cant go wrong. Dried meat i wouldnt trust heard bad things about how it holds tapeworm eggs seen a few lads try it but only for a bit wormers cost money give em proper food fit for hunman consumption and you not get half as many parasites Edited January 29, 2009 by blacktabs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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