O/U or S/S to start with?

[sidrana7 0]

a over and under gives a better sight picture and is fareasier to keep focused on the target ect than a sbs thats why every top shot uses a over and under, shell weight ect ect will play a big part in recoil as dous the type of recoil pad fitted,for a beginer you just want a standard sporter i.e 28 inch barrels. a beretta or miroku or similar. for a starter 30 inch barrels will be harder to swing on line correctly and make the gun barrel heavy. stick to simplicity until you learn all the aspects of everything then you can try the different guns targets ect. go for fixed choke standard 1/4-1/2 will be fine as too many people mess about with chokes thinking it makes them shoot better when really it dousnt make that much difference and they just need to shoot better. a tight choke only lenthens the lenth of the shot string! loads more thing i could try and say buy one important one is ask as many people ther opinions as possible then you have more of a choice and always remember than everyone shooting started with the the same skills and ability as you. (nearly anyway)

 

Simplicity in tool + more time spent on acquiring basic shooting skills = should build a base to work on development/advancement/experiment.

Your advice well received. Thank you.

[jackinbox99 41]

Have you thought about a semi automatic? I went for a beretta 391 semi for my first shotgun, for clays / pigeons etc... Ive since bought and tried o/u`s but keep going back to my semi time and time again. Im just so much better with it. Its a single barrel, so lighter than an o/u, being a semi it has hardly any recoil, I can swing it about quicker than the o/u, even though its a 30" barrel version, and i get 3 shots instead of 2.

 

If you dont fancy a semi, then id definately go for an o/u over a sbs. Like others have said, its entirely personal preference. I would recommend though that you try several guns out first as they all fit differently.

[sidrana7 0]

Have you thought about a semi automatic? I went for a beretta 391 semi for my first shotgun, for clays / pigeons etc... Ive since bought and tried o/u`s but keep going back to my semi time and time again. Im just so much better with it. Its a single barrel, so lighter than an o/u, being a semi it has hardly any recoil, I can swing it about quicker than the o/u, even though its a 30" barrel version, and i get 3 shots instead of 2.

 

If you dont fancy a semi, then id definately go for an o/u over a sbs. Like others have said, its entirely personal preference. I would recommend though that you try several guns out first as they all fit differently.

 

That I didnt thought of. And did you have that s/a on your shotgun cert or firearm cert? As I understand if your gun holds more than 2 cartridges then its not a shotgun by definition, please correct me if wrong.

Secondly I was reading that other members at the ground or game may be offended with the s/a as it cant be carried open and empty? Just saw that theres new version of s/a which can be broke and showed open but thats a trap version, sporter is not yet in the market.

 

cheers

[Hammergun12 0]

My first shotgun was a o/u, then one day i tried a s/s i think my signature speaks for its self, s/s`s are all i ever use now, mind i never go clay shooting so recoil after 100 shots is not a problem

[Lost Generation 93]

To have my pennyworth, you plan to go game shooting which rules out a semi-auto because these just will not be welcome on a lot of game shoots. The vast majority of o/u guns are single trigger whereas most sbs will be double trigger although there are increasing numbers of single trigger and multichoke sbs guns available. I have shot for years with a very unusual o/u - a very light, double trigger, fixed choke o/u but recently bought a single trigger multi-choke o/u. I really hate this new gun and can't get used to the single trigger which is much slower than a double trigger when a fast second shot is required. I have never felt disadvantaged by having a fixed choke gun so I'm getting rid of the new gun and looking for an ultra light, short barrelled sbs 20 bore. I can't say I ever notice recoil when shooting game but it can be an issues with clays.

[sidrana7 0]

That I didnt thought of. And did you have that s/a on your shotgun cert or firearm cert? As I understand if your gun holds more than 2 cartridges then its not a shotgun by definition, please correct me if wrong.

Secondly I was reading that other members at the ground or game may be offended with the s/a as it cant be carried open and empty? Just saw that theres new version of s/a which can be broke and showed open but thats a trap version, sporter is not yet in the market.

 

cheers

 

"Q10. What's the difference between a firearm and a shotgun?

In simple terms, a firearm has a rifled barrel and fires bullets, a shot gun (or musket) is smooth bore and fires cartridges or blanks... however.... a multi-shot shot gun (capable of holding one in the chamber and more than two in the magazine) or has a detachable magazine requires a firearm certificate as does a short barrelled (less than 24 inches) shot gun. If in doubt, check with the Firearms Licensing Department."

 

Well so semi-auto is out of choice for now for this faq from the Grampian Police website.

[sidrana7 0]

My first shotgun was a o/u, then one day i tried a s/s i think my signature speaks for its self, s/s`s are all i ever use now, mind i never go clay shooting so recoil after 100 shots is not a problem

 

[sidrana7 0]

That I didnt thought of. And did you have that s/a on your shotgun cert or firearm cert? As I understand if your gun holds more than 2 cartridges then its not a shotgun by definition, please correct me if wrong.

Secondly I was reading that other members at the ground or game may be offended with the s/a as it cant be carried open and empty? Just saw that theres new version of s/a which can be broke and showed open but thats a trap version, sporter is not yet in the market.

 

cheers

 

"Q10. What's the difference between a firearm and a shotgun?

In simple terms, a firearm has a rifled barrel and fires bullets, a shot gun (or musket) is smooth bore and fires cartridges or blanks... however.... a multi-shot shot gun (capable of holding one in the chamber and more than two in the magazine) or has a detachable magazine requires a firearm certificate as does a short barrelled (less than 24 inches) shot gun. If in doubt, check with the Firearms Licensing Department."

 

Well so semi-auto is out of choice for now for this faq from the Grampian Police website.

 

:oops: I did mistake

the faq answer says more than two, so it means that 3 are allowed in a semi-auto for use with a shotgun certificate.

apologies for my blabber.

[sidrana7 0]

To have my pennyworth, you plan to go game shooting which rules out a semi-auto because these just will not be welcome on a lot of game shoots. The vast majority of o/u guns are single trigger whereas most sbs will be double trigger although there are increasing numbers of single trigger and multichoke sbs guns available. I have shot for years with a very unusual o/u - a very light, double trigger, fixed choke o/u but recently bought a single trigger multi-choke o/u. I really hate this new gun and can't get used to the single trigger which is much slower than a double trigger when a fast second shot is required. I have never felt disadvantaged by having a fixed choke gun so I'm getting rid of the new gun and looking for an ultra light, short barrelled sbs 20 bore. I can't say I ever notice recoil when shooting game but it can be an issues with clays.

 

Thanks Lost Generation. Well received.

[Hammergun12 0]

To have my pennyworth, you plan to go game shooting which rules out a semi-auto because these just will not be welcome on a lot of game shoots. The vast majority of o/u guns are single trigger whereas most sbs will be double trigger although there are increasing numbers of single trigger and multichoke sbs guns available. I have shot for years with a very unusual o/u - a very light, double trigger, fixed choke o/u but recently bought a single trigger multi-choke o/u. I really hate this new gun and can't get used to the single trigger which is much slower than a double trigger when a fast second shot is required. I have never felt disadvantaged by having a fixed choke gun so I'm getting rid of the new gun and looking for an ultra light, short barrelled sbs 20 bore. I can't say I ever notice recoil when shooting game but it can be an issues with clays.

 

Yes i did not mention double trigger as most s/s guns have one barrel choked tighter then the other (normally the left) you can chose without messing about with barrel selector. Also found that i never bothered changing chokes so do not miss them.

[cyclonebri1 8]

The best, (as in the gun I liked shooing most, 'cos I was better with it), gun I ever had was a Laurona 30" multi choke O/U 12g

 

Fit like a glove, and best of all had a unique trigger arrangement. Double trigger, but you didn't have to move from one trigger to the other for the 2nd shot. Front trigger fired top then bottom and the rear trigger would fire bottom then top. (Could have been the opposite way round, can't quite remember). Anyway I found it superb and so did all that tried it.

 

Have to say again that you will not even appreciate what gun is untill you drop on one that does. Trouble is it could be @ £250 or £2500

[Deker 3,478]

That I didnt thought of. And did you have that s/a on your shotgun cert or firearm cert? As I understand if your gun holds more than 2 cartridges then its not a shotgun by definition, please correct me if wrong.

Secondly I was reading that other members at the ground or game may be offended with the s/a as it cant be carried open and empty? Just saw that theres new version of s/a which can be broke and showed open but thats a trap version, sporter is not yet in the market.

 

cheers

 

"Q10. What's the difference between a firearm and a shotgun?

In simple terms, a firearm has a rifled barrel and fires bullets, a shot gun (or musket) is smooth bore and fires cartridges or blanks... however.... a multi-shot shot gun (capable of holding one in the chamber and more than two in the magazine) or has a detachable magazine requires a firearm certificate as does a short barrelled (less than 24 inches) shot gun. If in doubt, check with the Firearms Licensing Department."

 

Well so semi-auto is out of choice for now for this faq from the Grampian Police website.

 

 

You are screwing yourself up in definitions, chill out..that is the difference between a shotgun and a rifle...a shotgun is a firearm, as can be an air rifle a BB gun a water pistol, a cap gun a firework, etc!!!

Edited January 23, 2009 by Deker