Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Simple question, Simple answer required. Quote Link to post
Tracy36 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 think i read or someone told me that the bitch 60% dominant. but don't quote me, could be wrong (yes men, a woman admitting that she MAY be wrong) Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Dont think its that straightforward but I dont believe the genes of the Dam to be dominant. First cross collie/grey= merle pups, not many merle greyhounds around. First cross beddy/grey= rough coated pups, not many rough coated greyhounds around...... Ok....you get the idea... Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 its just you would often hear lads saying they prefer the bitch to be greyhound if they are crossing a collie to grey for example. nothing to do with the dogs size. Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I've heard that the bitch determines the size of the pups and I suppose to a certain extent it seems possible, but I've also had a pup that grew to a solid 27, he was a big lad too, frow a lightly built 24 inch bitch. I would have to add that he was the only one from two litters and the others were all fairly consistant. Its a complex subject.....little bit above my head when you get into a few breeds in the pot... Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Whos to say there are no geneologists on this forum? Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Whos to say there are no geneologists on this forum? well there could be but i doubt it...there arent that many geneologists about...i dont think...at least i dont know any... I dont believe that dam genes are predominant , Its just you hear lads saying it and id like to know what makes them believe this to be true. Its a load of horse manure if you ask me. Quote Link to post
brock1 2 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 i am not sure but i think it depend on the breeds that you cross rather than it being a dog or bitch. for example if you cross a jrt most of the pups end up being white becouse of years of breeding for whites becouse if it is a diffrent colour it not a jrt. so if you cross it with a dog that dosent have to be a certain colour then the white colour will be dominant. Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I would be more interested in bonestructure size, pace and drive than colour. I cant see how it would make any difference whether it was the sighthound or the other breeds vagina the pups came out of. Quote Link to post
dogman89 0 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 i heard that the dam passes on the tempermant but the sire passes on the conformation. load of shit if you as me Quote Link to post
brock1 2 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I would be more interested in bonestructure size, pace and drive than colour. I cant see how it would make any difference whether it was the sighthound or the other breeds vagina the pups came out of. i just used colour as an example mate it should be the same with othere atrobutes aswell like bonestructure & size the longer the breed has been bread to have them the more dominant the genes will be. Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I would be more interested in bonestructure size, pace and drive than colour. I cant see how it would make any difference whether it was the sighthound or the other breeds vagina the pups came out of. i just used colour as an example mate it should be the same with othere atrobutes aswell like bonestructure & size the longer the breed has been bread to have them the more dominant the genes will be. Oh ya I know you were only giving an eg. I was just wondering if its slightly different with temperment and length of limb etc Quote Link to post
hang & bang 114 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 i heard that the dam passes on the tempermant but the sire passes on the conformation. load of shit if you as me pure bol~x alright Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I've heard that the bitch determines the size of the pups and I suppose to a certain extent it seems possible, but I've also had a pup that grew to a solid 27, he was a big lad too, frow a lightly built 24 inch bitch. I would have to add that he was the only one from two litters and the others were all fairly consistant. Its a complex subject.....little bit above my head when you get into a few breeds in the pot... Doesn't work that way either mate my mates wee bitch 21tts was caught by a full deerhound and all the pups were 26 + Quote Link to post
Guest Countryboyo Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would be more interested in bonestructure size, pace and drive than colour. I cant see how it would make any difference whether it was the sighthound or the other breeds vagina the pups came out of. i just used colour as an example mate it should be the same with othere atrobutes aswell like bonestructure & size the longer the breed has been bread to have them the more dominant the genes will be. Oh ya I know you were only giving an eg. I was just wondering if its slightly different with temperment and length of limb etc everything about your dog comes down to the genes, althoguh then you can get into the nature versus nurture debate, which is just a little too much on a hunting forum lol, anyway, length of limb and other bone structure is all down to the gene's, either the mother or the fathers genes can determine this, the thing is that a dog with dominant genes in one area wil have sumbissive genes in other areas, and the same goes for the bitch, when they are put togethr the dominant genes come through more than the submissive genes, because dogs have been bred for coat and colour, and this is the most visible of the things that they have been bred for it is this that we can see easily, yes a jrt x will likely be jrt coloured, and the same goes for a beddy cross, it will have a better coat than the greyhound parent, because it is a dominant gene which has come through over generations of selective breeding. lol this is geneology for dummies tho, i cant go into much more than that other than common sense based on a rather remedial overview of the subject. but no the dams genes are not dominant every time. So the sires genes are just as likely to be dominant as the bicthes genes are to be dominant. And the bitches genes being more dominant and influencing the pups more is a pile of manure. Quote Link to post
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