Guest flipflop Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 never said the bull cross was a bitch,but you did have some for sale from a 16 month bullcross, Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'm not criticising your dogs condition mate all I'm pointing out is that if your breeding as frequently your not really in a position to attack others even if it is on a bigger scale. What better way to get a sale for your dogs than to rubbish the breeder of a similar x. Quote Link to post
Guest night time my time Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) I'm not criticising your dogs condition mate all I'm pointing out is that if your breeding as frequently your not really in a position to attack others even if it is on a bigger scale. What better way to get a sale for your dogs than to rubbish the breeder of a similar x. big differance between nearly pups in 12 years from workers than 750 a year from sheds, and flip flop, ,,,spooky,,,,no topics of your own and your only posts this year are all on mine,???????????????? thats odd, maybe you know a bit more about a few things?? and skulking around anonymously,which bull x would this be??? how old was it ment to be,never had a bull x of any sex that age?? Edited January 26, 2009 by night time my time Quote Link to post
Guest flipflop Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 you used the bull cross which was 16 month old over your collie cross,thats what u said on your post while u were selling them,or have u forgot,ive nothing more to say,night night Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 I'm not criticising your dogs condition mate all I'm pointing out is that if your breeding as frequently your not really in a position to attack others even if it is on a bigger scale. What better way to get a sale for your dogs than to rubbish the breeder of a similar x. big differance between nearly pups in 12 years from workers than 750 a year from sheds, and flip flop, ,,,spooky,,,,no topics of your own and your only posts this year are all on mine,???????????????? thats odd, maybe you know a bit more about a few things?? Well its approx pups in 10yrs really and you've bred from other dogs which again is your perogative so that's still a fair amount of pups by any standards. My issue isn't with your breeding programme it's more about your eagerness to write off dogs you've never seen, based on a very narrow view of the breeder and your own experience with a dog that was given to you and one of your mates. Hardly a basis on which to have a proper opinion is it.....Anyways ATB with your dogs and I think I'll leave it at that. :bye: Quote Link to post
Guest night time my time Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 you used the bull cross which was 16 month old over your collie cross,thats what u said on your post while u were selling them,or have u forgot,ive nothing more to say,night nightstill stalking?? what post was that?? i did have a simaler litter but i wouldnt have said that, you must know me and be guessing,posted your own topic of on anyone else yet? think i know who you are,alias have you?? Quote Link to post
earth&hounds 94 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 this old bitch has probly had near pups in her time,mostly down holes shes dug or a log heap shes found and never lost a pup,shes 12 here and look what shes still doing,shes had more fox row and rabbits than i care to think about and shes only half x heres her daughter,garented from a pup as far as i was concerned, as were more of her line,,all workers to workers and some youngsters from them,all have had good working homes and are all still here and working,enjoying life. Approx pups in 12 yrs thats some going you must have loads of pals....if we take away the first year to let her grow and develop thats approx pups in 11 yrs...or maybe you waited like all good breeders do for a couple of seasons before breeding from her..so say she's three when you bred from her so thats approx pups in 9yrs...or did you breed every second season she must have thrown big litters....you see where this is heading...now maybe I'm reading this wrong and pups is your code word for summit else if so I apoligise but if not!.....well...people in glass houses mate... .and you call Hancock a puppy pedlar....I genuinely hope I've read this wrong am them dogs labs mate or lurchers fat fekers ay they do you like your snap to Quote Link to post
Nightghost 0 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 from what i remember the white Merle stud dog you used , you wrote on here his name is pig. would that by any chance be the dog you had up for sale in the Ad trader a while back. my best friend rang you up about it and you said when he asked about him lamping, you said that you have to let him run around for a while because he was to head strong. other wisehe ran wild, then you started on about being on the road for twenty years. he couldn't work out if you where a plastic wanna be pickey, a new age traveller or a genuine Romany lol. if you dought what i,m saying you aranged that you would meet him at bury st Edmund's, the price of the dog being £200 quid aprox ! i wonder how many Merle dogs called " PIG " there are in Norfolk with an owner who travelled round for twenty years... if the bitch was such an escape artist , and your such a great dog man , surely you must know the dates when she was due to whelp or due for mating and kept her secure, on the road or not. an just a helpful suggestion to continue your line of lurchers? don't you think that you would have better success putting an ACD dog over a greyhound bitch and the other mating an ACD dog again over your collie grey bitch, which would produce a far faster dog still capable of doing what you want, and if your crossing them into your collie line don't you think it would be better that way round because your putting a hevey first cross to an already as i can see heavy built collie grey line......just a little idea . but don't take no notice i,m only a muppet that's been in dogs for over 45 years... also i was wondering what standard of greyhound dog it was that used did you use the black dog on the ACD bitch, can you put his name up just out of interest so we can see what class of dog you used, coz there's greyhounds and greyhounds a lot of lurcher breeders make the mistake of breeding from chuck out greyhounds that never made the grade through being to slow , gutless, no chase instinct, but obviously you would have done the research on your dog before using him on a bitch........ there would be a lot less lurchers in dog homes and pounds being dumped an passed on in the lurcher circle of death, if people took more notice of the quality that they used in the begining of their breeding, Quote Link to post
fireman 10,917 Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Don't know about any of the other but the acd x greyhound mating i do know about,the acd was used to produce a lurcher pup because she had shown us how good a base breed the acd would be to produce a lurcher,a breed with drive,bone,good feet,brains,stamina,etc in fact it has much more to offer than using a border or beadie collie or most other breeds to produce a lurcher that can work all types of ground,quarry and handle a knock.The greyhound was added for a bit of pace as what we wanted was a pacey acd and not a speed machine lurcher,we asked around and on here for advise before any litter was bred and had a 100% positive responce about how good a lurcher these dogs can produce.The mating went ahead and has been very successful in the type of dog that has been produced and the amount of replys either pm's or on up date pics shows others think so to,the history of the greyhound isn't known and to tell the truth doesn't matter as like i said was used to add pace nothing else,the acd has the rest,stamina,drive,etc.Seems you don't like the acd dam greyhound sire way round,why would it be better the other way round?.Have you seen any pics i've put up of the acd x gh pups and if so how can you say they could have been better,if not go look then comment.This litter is a belter and have brains and drive and the best feet on any dog i've ever seen,so pick holes in something else cause your waisting your time trying to slate this litter there fecking class pal. Edited to add this litter was bred as i wanted one for myself because my hancock dog is a shitter and due to me not being a dog swopper he'll stay as a pet and i'll use my acd x pup next year as my worker if all goes well as nothing is 100% with working dogs and all pups have found working homes. Edited January 26, 2009 by fireman Quote Link to post
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whin 463 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 i thought this was about breeding non treid dogs to get good dogs or something like that, nite time thats a big amount of pups for a wee dog to have mate , ,only breed of treid and tested dogs only way Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 i thought this was about breeding non treid dogs to get good dogs or something like that, nite time thats a big amount of pups for a wee dog to have mate , ,only breed of treid and tested dogs only way The oringinal post the guy only asked who else was running a Hancock...then the usual shite started Quote Link to post
Guest night time my time Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 (edited) my last on the subject as flipflop seems to want to discredit me,the bitch has thrown litters of 14s and 16s, she is a very much tried and tested dog,in more ways than, one water off a ducks back,anti or alias?? flipflop,dont give a rats c**t what you think, i already said i wouldnt be haveing a litter for along time as there are to meny pups now go stalk some other f****r, like hancock,my bitch is still fit healthy and working at 12 yo, :wankerzo4: Edited January 27, 2009 by night time my time Quote Link to post
Guest flipflop Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 how am i trying to discredit you?,to discredit you i would have to have told lie's,i stated how many litters you have bred,and the ages of the dogs used,all information gained from reading your own posts,as anyone can,its no good getting your knickers in a twist with me,just because it doesnt read well, Quote Link to post
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