hancock dogs

[doga 50]

undispute thats a niave statement mate its not always the owner believe me i had two hancocks one was alrite the other no more wind than a greyhound , any way this is how i look at things and many others ,you breed dogs of good bitches good dogs ,coli types ,you look for good retreiving ability natural vigour , see the lines of the dog , the beardie bitch cross was fine the border three qaurter two hares and he was done, a dozen rabbs he was done even when fit , to me lurcher breeding is a bit more than throwing any colli to any greyhound unworked , when i got two the feild trails then i saw realy decent dogs as good as mines and better ,so i thought well time to move on and 16 years later ive no complaints i wonder for the type of land i hunt how many hanckock dogs would i had ,as it aint no fun if a dog blows up after two big hare chases or a dozen or more rabbs or half a dozen roe chases , were i live i couldnt afford to go down the road of any colli and any greyhound, saw lots of good bred working colli lurchers owned a few ,saw a few ,you never find a dogs good pionts untill fully tested ,on all game all over , i suppose we lok for diffrent things in a dog ,but cantsee the piont of buying of untried dogs ,and most dogs with half grew or three qaurt grew will catch a rabb ,its when you ask for more and have the game to test it then it sorts the dogs out , i give a dog two seasons then if its not doing it for me well good nite or a pet home, we are all diffrent ,

win to get your self down the line 16 years later wich in producing a line is not a lot,mother and daughter.tested.how many pups produced and sold and how much wastage and how would you find enough folk to take rear and test pups and report back to see if litters have done well.in 14 years i had mother and father tested union 7 year old pup bought on and tryed and tested till 6 years old only sold 2 pups the rest given out to folk i new all did well except for the 2 sold i had no feed back so carnt vouch for those were beardie crosses.what im saying is win haw many pups produced how many made the grade how much wastage also you must live on a small holding to keep so much stock other folk dont have that kind of room.so then would you sell your pups as being garanteed better than a pup produced at hancocks.also would you vet the person coming for the pup could be another incompetant to give you a bad name.al the best doga.

[whin 463]

doga its what i see round me ,there no gaurantee in a pup but after two or three generaitions if they throw ,things in like natural fetching good pace feet , simliar traits well you cant be doing bad ,before i breed i make sure there genuine types most i know or have hunted with rarely breed litts ,mostly for replacements ,i alway keep theone i like give one close and the rest got to good homes ,not rocket sceince when you keep the same type of dogs you get to know whats there traits , and it aint about world beaters its about knowing whats in them mate ,and seeing there family work just abit of history i always prefer to see parents work , full stop

[Guest night time my time]

doga its what i see round me ,there no gaurantee in a pup but after two or three generaitions if they throw ,things in like natural fetching good pace feet , simliar traits well you cant be doing bad ,before i breed i make sure there genuine types most i know or have hunted with rarely breed litts ,mostly for replacements ,i alway keep theone i like give one close and the rest got to good homes ,not rocket sceince when you keep the same type of dogs you get to know whats there traits , and it aint about world beaters its about knowing whats in them mate ,and seeing there family work just abit of history i always prefer to see parents work , full stop

have to agree whin, its not a matter if just putting the work into any ol dog,you need the hunting instinct already there good feet,prey drive,people cant possably know what there doing with dogs if thats how they think,you wouldnt use show blooded odgs for work of any other breed,why use none workers with no instinct for the job in lurchers???cause his got 100s for sale???, Edited January 21, 2009 by night time my time

[border lad 1,047]

doga its what i see round me ,there no gaurantee in a pup but after two or three generaitions if they throw ,things in like natural fetching good pace feet , simliar traits well you cant be doing bad ,before i breed i make sure there genuine types most i know or have hunted with rarely breed litts ,mostly for replacements ,i alway keep theone i like give one close and the rest got to good homes ,not rocket sceince when you keep the same type of dogs you get to know whats there traits , and it aint about world beaters its about knowing whats in them mate ,and seeing there family work just abit of history i always prefer to see parents work , full stop

 

Whin, with your experience, and knowledge, with a very good bitch Lana, and the material, what is available to you, you should be Breeding on a large scale, to accomodate the demand in the market, and in my policy, put the best to the best and hope for the best, and even then there will be wastage in the litters that is unaviodable, but you have a great opportuniety, to do this I am being genuine in this suggestion to you, and please this is not jest, thank you,

[undisputed 1,664]

doga its what i see round me ,there no gaurantee in a pup but after two or three generaitions if they throw ,things in like natural fetching good pace feet , simliar traits well you cant be doing bad ,before i breed i make sure there genuine types most i know or have hunted with rarely breed litts ,mostly for replacements ,i alway keep theone i like give one close and the rest got to good homes ,not rocket sceince when you keep the same type of dogs you get to know whats there traits , and it aint about world beaters its about knowing whats in them mate ,and seeing there family work just abit of history i always prefer to see parents work , full stop

 

 

have to agree whin, its not a matter if just putting the work into any ol dog,you need the hunting instinct already there good feet,prey drive,people cant possably know what there doing with dogs if thats how they think,you wouldnt use show blooded odgs for work of any other breed,why use none workers with no instinct for the job in lurchers???cause his got 100s for sale???,

 

 

My last post on this as I will bow to both of your superior knowldge. I'll just put it down to blind luck then shall I....both dogs bred from non-workers with no obvious instinct for the job. The fawn dog was all pre ban an the merle's were all retrieves after the foxes were shot....ATB

[sniper 30]

Undi,like that merle bitch alot mate,

[undisputed 1,664]

Some more lucky ones

[Guest night time my time]

doga its what i see round me ,there no gaurantee in a pup but after two or three generaitions if they throw ,things in like natural fetching good pace feet , simliar traits well you cant be doing bad ,before i breed i make sure there genuine types most i know or have hunted with rarely breed litts ,mostly for replacements ,i alway keep theone i like give one close and the rest got to good homes ,not rocket sceince when you keep the same type of dogs you get to know whats there traits , and it aint about world beaters its about knowing whats in them mate ,and seeing there family work just abit of history i always prefer to see parents work , full stop

 

Whin, with your experience, and knowledge, with a very good bitch Lana, and the material, what is available to you, you should be Breeding on a large scale, to accomodate the demand in the market, and in my policy, put the best to the best and hope for the best, and even then there will be wastage in the litters that is unaviodable, but you have a great opportuniety, to do this I am being genuine in this suggestion to you, and please this is not jest, thank you,

whin...are you boarder lad aswel??

[whin 463]

no just aguy i had up wi the old bitch but a kowledgble character ,and saw enough dogs to no his stuf he used to course the hares on the annan area were they held the scottish cup for coursing, hee had some real good dogs ,but hees been sissatisfied with the stamps of dogs and the things you see wrote on here ,as in his day if they couldnt catch the hare etc they were not counted as a good stamp ,times change

[whin 463]

nice pics ive got a few my self from near and far , mostly of edible qaurry , some of foxes, biggest we took ws 26 lb plus somebody put iit up in some old dogs done by my old bitches father away back 94 time ,was in earth dog running dog years ago , ye nice to have pics as time flies , i still think the way forward is to breed of treid and tested workers and throw a good greyhound in once in a while , how do they get derby winners ,single handed hare dogs ,working terreirs feild trail spaneils they look at the lines and breed of them , its no coincidance breeding good dogs, like ferrets, breed traits you like in an animal ,ie handling ,sticker ,and keen to work ,all the best , i think the way back ward is to breed on non tested working dogs ,non top grade greyhounds , i think you have to look at ability of an animal and its siblings boxing a hare in ,nabbing a bolting rabb ,takein a roe cleanly ,getting a fox without to much hassle , breed of the best you can get and well your got half a chance ,

[earth&hounds 94]

nice pics ive got a few my self from near and far , mostly of edible qaurry , some of foxes, biggest we took ws 26 lb plus somebody put iit up in some old dogs done by my old bitches father away back 94 time ,was in earth dog running dog years ago , ye nice to have pics as time flies , i still think the way forward is to breed of treid and tested workers and throw a good greyhound in once in a while , how do they get derby winners ,single handed hare dogs ,working terreirs feild trail spaneils they look at the lines and breed of them , its no coincidance breeding good dogs, like ferrets, breed traits you like in an animal ,ie handling ,sticker ,and keen to work ,all the best , i think the way back ward is to breed on non tested working dogs ,non top grade greyhounds , i think you have to look at ability of an animal and its siblings boxing a hare in ,nabbing a bolting rabb ,takein a roe cleanly ,getting a fox without to much hassle , breed of the best you can get and well your got half a chance ,

 

 

bring your super dog over mate bet it dont do as good as anothers mate thats the proff we need

 

atb

 

earthy

[whin 463]

i take it you dont breed a dog or have a type ,you just by them , super dogs nine lol mate well past her sellby date but still got the heart but not the legs she got pinned at 5 run over by a boy racer but she was a tool in her day honestly , got some handy dogs if your ever over this way,t, so what do you breed and what do you keep type wise ,

[whin 463]

polar bear would be handy for the feching seals at local harbour give the sea trout or salmos a chance to get up ,for the two legged bear at the first weir or call ahah

[anythingoes 28]

I'm sorry guys but breading does have a part to play but TRAINING AND ENTERING a dog to its quarry is everything !!!

ATB anythingoes

[border lad 1,047]

I'm sorry guys but breading does have a part to play but TRAINING AND ENTERING a dog to its quarry is everything !!!

ATB anythingoes

 

Breeding is very important, I have a pup, now he is 5 month only he is what I call a Rabbit dog, greyhound whippet x bedlington, greyhound, he will have a ball of speed, but believe, me, there is not much upstairs, does not matter how good a trainer you are, you can not put brain there, I have him jumping small obstacles, he jumps very nicely, he can go through the fence nicely, by twisting his body, and he is carrying back to me, I am out for a walk, every day with him, trying to school him, But he has a dour, stubborn streak, and I know with in my heart of hearts, I am wasting my time, yes he is only 5 month, and there is time yet, but I see signs, that I do not like, I was looking for a collie x went around all of my old cronies, looking for a pup

none, IT seems that in Scotland, they have given up breeding collie x and moved over to the Saluki x and then the bullx, sorry those two breeds are not for me, so I bought this old breed, which was the Miners, who liked this type of dog, sure he will knock a rabbit over with ease, but I want a dog to do a bit more, and enjoy his company too, and that is how I met Whin, and it was a pleasure for me to go and see his dogs, I believe he also has a good Grew, a Bitch, and a Hunting friend of Whins, Micky Richardson, has a good beardie x greyhound, if you mated those two type of dogs together you have a very usefull lurcher which I am sure would interest a lot of people, with that type of breeding you have a base to work from, and more.