hancock dogs

[whin 463]

just hate puppy peddlars, non treid working dogs living there life out in a pen never seeing a grey scut or a white ass not a bird either , or a big ear or a red fellow ,you only find faults in dogs if they realy get worked hard mate and only find good pionts if you have them and there kind for years , its took me years to reproduce what i need ,i dont think i could just buy it ,maybe wrong ,i suppose he has his uses but no were near what these silly books he wrote, him and the other shyster who should have been part of the mario brothers they were plummers to lol

[Guest night time my time]

just hate puppy peddlars, non treid working dogs living there life out in a pen never seeing a grey scut or a white ass not a bird either , or a big ear or a red fellow ,you only find faults in dogs if they realy get worked hard mate and only find good pionts if you have them and there kind for years , its took me years to reproduce what i need ,i dont think i could just buy it ,maybe wrong ,i suppose he has his uses but no were near what these silly books he wrote, him and the other shyster who should have been part of the mario brothers they were plummers to lol

spot on,,,exactly the same with me,all my best dogs have come from my own line of the best workers line bred back to the best,my lurchers that is, i have my courseing pup coming on a treat, out eveyday learning with the rest,maybe its coincidence but the 2 worst dogs iv ever seen were hancocks,i own one and my mate owns the other,think as i was just told in a pm, some people think their dogs are good cause they've never seen good dogs and they buy from hancock cause they are well advertised and dont know any better, i know meny men in this country i could go get a decent working dog from to suit my needs thats from genuin working parants and well reared,without haveing to take the chance on hancocks farm,its like lurchers for the middle class,they've read the books now want a merle hancock ,men with lurchers and lurcher men,

[Guest dances]

whats this then?? are you talking about that new dog? the worst you've seen .lol

[undisputed 1,664]

its not about money the lurchers its about performance and giving a few pups to the [bANNED TEXT] FELLOWS so you get feed back if poss my mate one the cambridge cup twice with well bred saluks simliar to your pup a bit ,but he gave me lineings for nothing apart from i do him the odd favour if needed, you pay what you can afford or barter ,how much does hanckock charge now

 

 

Last time I was there was 3yr ago £175 I think I paid.

you could of got somthing decent for that out of workers for less than that,seriously,doesnt it bother you to walk round that place and see dogs kept like pigs? i never got mine from him,i got it to use if one of mine was injoured,she was from pikeys and is now in a good home exercised daily and well looked after,i have been there and chatted at lenth with the ol boy,took good advice on breeding,even lived after drinking out of one of their cups but,come on mate

 

 

No it dont bother me mate as for being kept like pigs thats not what I saw and if it was the case he would have been closed down. Ah right so based on a dog you got from someone else she's branded as a dud and its because it's a Hancock. I reckon in 99% in the case of FAILED DOGS the fault will lie with the owner not the dog. . All this hancock bashing reminds me of of the small corner shop owners complaining about big supermarkets taking their income from them.

Edited January 20, 2009 by undisputed

[undisputed 1,664]

just hate puppy peddlars, non treid working dogs living there life out in a pen never seeing a grey scut or a white ass not a bird either , or a big ear or a red fellow ,you only find faults in dogs if they realy get worked hard mate and only find good pionts if you have them and there kind for years , its took me years to reproduce what i need ,i dont think i could just buy it ,maybe wrong ,i suppose he has his uses but no were near what these silly books he wrote, him and the other shyster who should have been part of the mario brothers they were plummers to lol

 

 

So whats the difference then from someone breeding their bitch and selling the pups on to what Hancock does apart from the scale of things?. So whats your definition of worked really hard then?. Any dog pushed beyond it's limits will ultimately break down at some point.

[MOO 730]

Was there not a hancock challenge a while back ?

[Guest night time my time]

just hate puppy peddlars, non treid working dogs living there life out in a pen never seeing a grey scut or a white ass not a bird either , or a big ear or a red fellow ,you only find faults in dogs if they realy get worked hard mate and only find good pionts if you have them and there kind for years , its took me years to reproduce what i need ,i dont think i could just buy it ,maybe wrong ,i suppose he has his uses but no were near what these silly books he wrote, him and the other shyster who should have been part of the mario brothers they were plummers to lol

 

 

So whats the difference then from someone breeding their bitch and selling the pups on to what Hancock does apart from the scale of things?. So whats your definition of worked really hard then?. Any dog pushed beyond it's limits will ultimately break down at some point.

then you should look deeper,the differance being from proven working dogs,as for a hancock challange,my mates terrier with 3 inch legs has caught more rabbits this week, my moneys on the terrier, from chickens kept in shit to lurchers hancocks farm.enough now boaring old ground,take care

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just hate puppy peddlars, non treid working dogs living there life out in a pen never seeing a grey scut or a white ass not a bird either , or a big ear or a red fellow ,you only find faults in dogs if they realy get worked hard mate and only find good pionts if you have them and there kind for years , its took me years to reproduce what i need ,i dont think i could just buy it ,maybe wrong ,i suppose he has his uses but no were near what these silly books he wrote, him and the other shyster who should have been part of the mario brothers they were plummers to lol

 

 

So whats the difference then from someone breeding their bitch and selling the pups on to what Hancock does apart from the scale of things?. So whats your definition of worked really hard then?. Any dog pushed beyond it's limits will ultimately break down at some point.

then you should look deeper,the differance being from proven working dogs,as for a hancock challange,my mates terrier with 3 inch legs has caught more rabbits this week, my moneys on the terrier, from chickens kept in shit to lurchers hancocks farm.enough now boaring old ground,take care

 

 

Tunnel vision my friend the inability to see beyond what you believe to be right....as I've said many a time just cause you think your right dont make it so....good luck with the terrier maybe you should breed from it if its that good.

[Guest night time my time]

Tunnel vision my friend the inability to see beyond what you believe to be right....as I've said many a time just cause you think your right dont make it so....good luck with the terrier maybe you should breed from it if its that good.

 

 

 

i think we will have to agree to disagree on this one,you must of had a couple of good dogs from him, the only ones iv ever seen can be beaten by a terrier with 3 inch legs,

also a hob ferret i know has had more in a day than any of the hancocks round here,both mine and my mates if they had that final drive and strike would be top dogs,like i said they still get plenty of work and worked beside other dogs play there part,both have good noses and hunt up well,odd though,mines the half x collie grey his the border beardie 5 8th 3 8th and both lacking in the same department,iv seen the greyhound van turn up there and just unload into the pens with his wife stood there saying (in her own way)thats the last light them poor c**ts will see and on that principle alone i would never have one,without the fact the are not from working stock,if i wanted another terrier that one would be my 1st choice,worker, drive stamina and a kill instinct,

Edited January 21, 2009 by night time my time

[undisputed 1,664]

Tunnel vision my friend the inability to see beyond what you believe to be right....as I've said many a time just cause you think your right dont make it so....good luck with the terrier maybe you should breed from it if its that good.

 

 

 

i think we will have to agree to disagree on this one,you must of had a couple of good dogs from him, the only ones iv ever seen can be beaten by a terrier with 3 inch legs,

also a hob ferret i know has had more in a day than any of the hancocks round here,both mine and my mates if they had that final drive and strike would be top dogs,like i said they still get plenty of work and worked beside other dogs play there part,both have good noses and hunt up well,odd though,mines the half x collie grey his the border beardie 5 8th 3 8th and both lacking in the same department,iv seen the greyhound van turn up there and just unload into the pens with his wife stood there saying (in her own way)thats the last light them poor c**ts will see and on that principle alone i would never have one,without the fact the are not from working stock,if i wanted another terrier that one would be my 1st choice,worker, drive stamina and a kill instinct,

 

 

Like I said mate I dont care about the ethics of the man or his motives.....anyone in his line of buisness probably works along the same lines as him. At the end of the day he has the product I'm looking for and if it turns out shite then it'll be me and not the dog thats to blame. On the bright side at least I will have rescued the poor mite from a fate worse than death. Anyways good luck with your dogs and rabbit catching ferrets...happy hunting!

[whin 463]

undispute thats a niave statement mate its not always the owner believe me i had two hancocks one was alrite the other no more wind than a greyhound , any way this is how i look at things and many others ,you breed dogs of good bitches good dogs ,coli types ,you look for good retreiving ability natural vigour , see the lines of the dog , the beardie bitch cross was fine the border three qaurter two hares and he was done, a dozen rabbs he was done even when fit , to me lurcher breeding is a bit more than throwing any colli to any greyhound unworked , when i got two the feild trails then i saw realy decent dogs as good as mines and better ,so i thought well time to move on and 16 years later ive no complaints i wonder for the type of land i hunt how many hanckock dogs would i had ,as it aint no fun if a dog blows up after two big hare chases or a dozen or more rabbs or half a dozen roe chases , were i live i couldnt afford to go down the road of any colli and any greyhound, saw lots of good bred working colli lurchers owned a few ,saw a few ,you never find a dogs good pionts untill fully tested ,on all game all over , i suppose we lok for diffrent things in a dog ,but cantsee the piont of buying of untried dogs ,and most dogs with half grew or three qaurt grew will catch a rabb ,its when you ask for more and have the game to test it then it sorts the dogs out , i give a dog two seasons then if its not doing it for me well good nite or a pet home, we are all diffrent ,

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A good thread for colliexs , where ever you get them from.? With any lurcher you start 1x, its where you get your collie and your greyhound from. And do line bred 1 xcollie greys really have more stamina than a straight x collie grey.?? When you think about it, with any line bred you have greyhound both sides to the pup. Now we all know greyhounds lack stamina+ agilty, compare to a collie thats why you put collie in the first place. The only running dog that can give S+A is a Saluki, andthis post is about [only] colliexgreys and where you get them from.?? My young dog was bred from a 26in 1000yds grey bitch, to 22in working border collie on a farm by a mate. Bryn my dog so far as had 69 rabbits, 3 hares, 2 birds, from 16 nights lamping , not to bad for a 15month old dog. I know there are dogs alot better than him out there, with better stamina+agilty. With any 1x its a gamble if it turns right[ to much collie or to much grey], the same as with line bred.?? Buying lurchers , where ever you get them it comes down to [ LUCK] to drop on a good one.?????

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undispute thats a niave statement mate its not always the owner believe me i had two hancocks one was alrite the other no more wind than a greyhound , any way this is how i look at things and many others ,you breed dogs of good bitches good dogs ,coli types ,you look for good retreiving ability natural vigour , see the lines of the dog , the beardie bitch cross was fine the border three qaurter two hares and he was done, a dozen rabbs he was done even when fit , to me lurcher breeding is a bit more than throwing any colli to any greyhound unworked , when i got two the feild trails then i saw realy decent dogs as good as mines and better ,so i thought well time to move on and 16 years later ive no complaints i wonder for the type of land i hunt how many hanckock dogs would i had ,as it aint no fun if a dog blows up after two big hare chases or a dozen or more rabbs or half a dozen roe chases , were i live i couldnt afford to go down the road of any colli and any greyhound, saw lots of good bred working colli lurchers owned a few ,saw a few ,you never find a dogs good pionts untill fully tested ,on all game all over , i suppose we lok for diffrent things in a dog ,but cantsee the piont of buying of untried dogs ,and most dogs with half grew or three qaurt grew will catch a rabb ,its when you ask for more and have the game to test it then it sorts the dogs out , i give a dog two seasons then if its not doing it for me well good nite or a pet home, we are all diffrent ,

i think undisputed likes a tipple and a good debate, black could be white some days im sure,its simple choice for me,tryed and tested working parants,not someones once worked lines from meny moons ago that are well advertised,ok dogs for the genral public and people who dont know where to buy a decent lurcher

[Giro 2,648]

Never buy a dog off this man

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Tis a joke

[undisputed 1,664]

undispute thats a niave statement mate its not always the owner believe me i had two hancocks one was alrite the other no more wind than a greyhound , any way this is how i look at things and many others ,you breed dogs of good bitches good dogs ,coli types ,you look for good retreiving ability natural vigour , see the lines of the dog , the beardie bitch cross was fine the border three qaurter two hares and he was done, a dozen rabbs he was done even when fit , to me lurcher breeding is a bit more than throwing any colli to any greyhound unworked , when i got two the feild trails then i saw realy decent dogs as good as mines and better ,so i thought well time to move on and 16 years later ive no complaints i wonder for the type of land i hunt how many hanckock dogs would i had ,as it aint no fun if a dog blows up after two big hare chases or a dozen or more rabbs or half a dozen roe chases , were i live i couldnt afford to go down the road of any colli and any greyhound, saw lots of good bred working colli lurchers owned a few ,saw a few ,you never find a dogs good pionts untill fully tested ,on all game all over , i suppose we lok for diffrent things in a dog ,but cantsee the piont of buying of untried dogs ,and most dogs with half grew or three qaurt grew will catch a rabb ,its when you ask for more and have the game to test it then it sorts the dogs out , i give a dog two seasons then if its not doing it for me well good nite or a pet home, we are all diffrent ,

 

 

Read the post again I never said it was always down to the owner.....what is niave is to think that because you breed worker to worker you'll get the same in a pup. working ability, stamina etc only comes from working the dog regularly and having experienced dogs for the pup to learn off. The pup will inherit certain charecteristics from it's parents but that will be bone structure and other physical attributes. It's like saying that if Mike Tyson married Muhamid Ali's daughter and they had a son he would turn out to be the heavy weight champion of the world...Pish!....Give anyone a pup and endless access to quarry and you'll turn out a useful dog if you know what your doing. Again you bang on about Hancock dogs with very little experience of them you had two, one good, one not so good hardly an extensive study of the breed is it?...same as your buddy who was given one and his mate has the other. I'm all for people bigging up their dogs and what works for them but to slate something because you THINK they have inferior dogs without having seen what they do is daft. It must be great to sit there knowing that you have world beaters and the rest of us having bought our dogs from a "puppy pedlar" are second class because of this. On your point of buying untried dogs if you buy a pup are you not buying an untested dog?......Anyways I'm away to shoot my hancocks and get me a bull x