hancock dogs

[Neal 1,869]

I think it definitely depends on the type of collie used. My first lurcher, seventeen years ago, was a first cross beardie/greyhound out of Remus. She was very work orientated but, in contrast to what we were led to believe in the literature of the time, she was a complete tart and definitely not a one-man-dog.

 

My next was from Hancock's third litter of 3/4 collie 1/4 greyhounds, sired by Richard out of Linnet and was a pleasure to own. I also knew of somebody at the same time who had a dog with the same blood but in the opposite extreme ie Taffy x Sally. This dog was, by all accounts, a demon on fox and would snap up rabbits left, right and centre while waiting for the foxes to put in an appearance.

 

Conversely, my third lurcher was sired by one of Hancock's collies, Tory (Richard x Katie) out of a racing whippet and she was a perfect stereotype of what collie-haters dislike so much about collie crosses. She was the most obedient lurcher I've ever owned but although she did exactly as she was asked she never did anything else and was completely devoid of initiative. She was also the most nervous dog I've ever known, even a mild involuntary "tut" under your breathe would have her shivering in fear under the bed.

 

Y' pays y' money and y' takes y' chance.

[whin 463]

alot of hancock three qautrs ive saw lack stamina and natural ability some of richard were head strong hard to keep controled , hece when i yoused to go to hunting trails saw better types and moved on

[colliejohn 840]

It,s each to their own, there not my type of collie greyhound being beardie / border, throwing to big, and being bred out of none working parents, i prefer line bred collie lurchers out of generations of workers, i also prefer smaller , lighter boned types. regards collie john.

[wooly 24]

any other boys on yu running a hancock

I have a Hancock first cross Beardie/Greyhound two years old. She stands 24†is fast and agile ideal for lamping. She will take hare at push and is just starting to take an interest in Fox. I can identify with some of the other comments she was fairly head strong as a pup apparently Beardies tend to be, but would go to pieces if you disciplined her too harshly. My lamping partner has a Bull Cross that will keep trying when all looks lost and will crash into the harshest cover which definitely does pay off a lot of a lot of the time, Collie crosses just won’t work like that. However she is very bright learns very quickly and is price less when ferreting.

When all said and done Hancock’s is a puppy farm there for financial gain (nothing wrong with that) and it would definitely be possible to buy as good if not better Collie cross else ware. That aside with a Hancock dog you are 100% sure of the breeding that was my reason for buying from him and I have no complaints and would buy another when the time comes

[inan 841]

any other boys on yu running a hancock

I had one years ago ,he is in my avatar,he took all game ,and I used him to the gun as well ,Charley was soft mouthed enough so you could let bolters go after he had caught them but he ripped the shit out of "Red uns".A mate of mine had an excellent bitch Belle she took loads of game of all shapes and sizes,she was a beardie cross ,mine was a 34 greyx1/4 Border.I wasn't too impressed with the breeders kennels ,but this was over 30 years ago ,I beleive things are better now.I got into coursing again and went for saluki crosses ,but if I was after a biddable type a collie x might be an option.I think I would go to a chap who had bred a good worker to the same if I was in the market again ,I'm not sure Hancocks studs are really tested ,but as I say it's been a long time since Ive had one.

[undisputed 1,664]

iv got a 3/8 5/8 collie grey from hancock she does everything i want

have had 2 1 16years ago and one last year if you can put up with the shit for a year thay cume good but not for me 3/8 5/8 bullx for me now

 

 

this is mine she is 7 and she still works fine

 

 

Thats a bonnie looking dog mate! :thumbs:

[undisputed 1,664]

Theres a lot of crap written about Hancocks dogs, usually after having a bad experience with one. This is my old 3/4 grey 1/8th border beardie x she wasn't the greatest all rounder but she excelled in dispatching charlie back in the day. Would I have another one?...well I'm on my 3rd one now and we'll see how she turns out.

[luke bull cross 3]

iv got a 3/8 5/8 collie grey from hancock she does everything i want

have had 2 1 16years ago and one last year if you can put up with the shit for a year thay cume good but not for me 3/8 5/8 bullx for me now

 

 

this is mine she is 7 and she still works fine

 

 

Thats a bonnie looking dog mate! :thumbs:

 

cheers she does all i want her to

[anythingoes 28]

Theres a lot of crap written about Hancocks dogs, usually after having a bad experience with one. This is my old 3/4 grey 1/8th border beardie x she wasn't the greatest all rounder but she excelled in dispatching charlie back in the day. Would I have another one?...well I'm on my 3rd one now and we'll see how she turns out.

 

i no you and i would love to get that old bitch back on track what a dog !!!

 

Age catches us all

atb

and regrets anythingoes

[Guest night time my time]

Have had two the first was a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie best dog i ever had and could still take a hare at age 9 and was still catching odd bunnies up until she died at 13 years of age.The second also a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie is a good dog her only faults are slightly timid with strange people (my fault) and that she doesn't show any interest in charlie but i personally cant fault them and will probably get another one in the future!

loada shit,,,i got a collie grey 12 yo, and a hancock collie grey 3 yo,compaired to my 12 yo, the 3 yo,hancock is useless,not drive,wont enter cover,even if it sees a rabbit in it,doesnt even catch as much as my old dog,

[undisputed 1,664]

Have had two the first was a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie best dog i ever had and could still take a hare at age 9 and was still catching odd bunnies up until she died at 13 years of age.The second also a 3/4 grey 1/4 collie is a good dog her only faults are slightly timid with strange people (my fault) and that she doesn't show any interest in charlie but i personally cant fault them and will probably get another one in the future!

loada shit,,,i got a collie grey 12 yo, and a hancock collie grey 3 yo,compaired to my 12 yo, the 3 yo,hancock is useless,not drive,wont enter cover,even if it sees a rabbit in it,doesnt even catch as much as my old dog,

 

 

That'll be the dog's fault then...nothing you did

[whin 463]

this is the simple way i look at dog breeding you breed tried and tested workers both way its not rocket sceince , and if you keep throwing good pups you doing it the [bANNED TEXT] way ,but if you breeds hundreds and only get a few good ones well its the wrong way , simple as this m chapmas bob one feildtrails d slieghts katie qaulified and was jiont first , , now both retreived live to hand and chapmans bob took roe rabbit fox and hare now they two bred i got luke who like bob self entred to fox hare rabbit and roe then i bred luke to good qaulity greyhound bred lana and some of her pups , they to fetched to hand kill roe rabbit hare and fox , now before katie was kizzy who qaulified for the feild trails a good retreiver and catcher of edible game , now why would people go to non working dogs who maybe be hard mouthed as hell not good retreivers ,markers and not bred of good qaulity tried and tested greyhounds ,in kinda puzzled ,another think luke lana bob were all kneck dogs on roe , as they are litle fechers but dont fech about , this could be any one not these dogs but a true example of god dog breeding like the coursing saluk type , im kinda bemused of peoples ideas od good dogs or what they class as good , educate me if im wrong ,

[whin 463]

why would people go to non working parents to by a dog when there must be good qaulity dogs about because they all go on about there dogs , lets nots fool our selve hancocks like any massive company ,bend over and well take the sting , years ago i was at the ammna valley lurcher forum plummer hanckock etc they were all there ,now plummer says hancock was the most famous man for breeding dogs to win the hunting trails but up jumped a freind of mines say i bred two littls and three got in to feild trails he bred seven hundred and bred 4 maybe , im kindsa bemused why people go on about him as aworking lurcher dog man as he is no lurcher man or hunter maybe im wrong , the only way is see them work breed in good pionts and try to keep it [bANNED TEXT] , feching beats me ,how use can go on about hanckocks etc he wasted more old lines than any body , at the start he had good types yes but not for years .

[grafter 0]

this is the simple way i look at dog breeding you breed tried and tested workers both way its not rocket sceince , and if you keep throwing good pups you doing it the [bANNED TEXT] way ,but if you breeds hundreds and only get a few good ones well its the wrong way , simple as this m chapmas bob one feildtrails d slieghts katie qaulified and was jiont first , , now both retreived live to hand and chapmans bob took roe rabbit fox and hare now they two bred i got luke who like bob self entred to fox hare rabbit and roe then i bred luke to good qaulity greyhound bred lana and some of her pups , they to fetched to hand kill roe rabbit hare and fox , now before katie was kizzy who qaulified for the feild trails a good retreiver and catcher of edible game , now why would people go to non working dogs who maybe be hard mouthed as hell not good retreivers ,markers and not bred of good qaulity tried and tested greyhounds ,in kinda puzzled ,another think luke lana bob were all kneck dogs on roe , as they are litle fechers but dont fech about , this could be any one not these dogs but a true example of god dog breeding like the coursing saluk type , im kinda bemused of peoples ideas od good dogs or what they class as good , educate me if im wrong ,

mine can fill a pot easy thats all i want out of her.and she does it on the sides ov mountains not big flat fiels she suits my needs no problem

[undisputed 1,664]

This arguement of he breeds hundreds so is bound to produce a few good ones is rubbish....if he was only producing the odd good dog he would be out of buisness. Now not everyone hunts bigger stuff and prefer to stick to bunnies and thats fine but as with any Hancock thread theres always someone taking a cheap shot and making daft comments about the owners of these dogs. It's like suggesting anyone who goes and buy's a dog from him knows nothing about dogs and all these back door breeders have all the best dogs going. I'm not interested in the man's ethics I know the type of dog I like he produces it so it's a no brainer for me. End off.