Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Trust Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bud9 79 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 some nice pics thare catcher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 some nice pics thare catcher Cheers mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 The last thing I want is to be out and worry about my dog chasing livestock so I always break mine when young and they see livestock on a daily basis. I started my lurcher pup with poultry over the bank holiday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bud9 79 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 i thick thats the first thing anyone should do when they get a pup is break it to stock thare would be noithing worse than geting an invite out with a keeper or farmer and your dog grips any livestock that would defenetly be the end of the invites thats for sure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 The last thing I want is to be out and worry about my dog chasing livestock so I always break mine when young and they see livestock on a daily basis. I started my lurcher pup with poultry over the bank holiday. Your right mate the younger the better.My pups see livestock almost every time they are out.As i only live about 400 yards from the farm.Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 any young lads out there who have deer and fox lurchers would be best of stock train like jigsaw said and when the time comes put dog on lead around live stock as dogs fired up with a kill can even when stock broken can turn on sheep. some times it can be some one elses dog that starts to chase and your dog will join. not worth the risk in my book if the dog have seen a few dogs reared with sheep turn on sheep in later life all fox and deer dogs. one mistake will loose permission for good macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J Darcy 5,871 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dogs know the difference between sheep and deer, dont worry about that. but it is a good idea just to double-check once they have dropped their first deer (pre-ban). Personally i have never had one of my dogs worry sheep and only onece did one run one a little way. They know the difference. If your in tune with your sapling he will know what he is allowed to chase and what he isnt.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Catcher 1, fair play to you for having a well behaved pack, thats what i call well trained, takes some doing id say, hats off to you. Frank. Cheer,s mate .Must point out they arent all mine.But one of the first thing our lad,s do is stock train.atb. Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Catcher 1, fair play to you for having a well behaved pack, thats what i call well trained, takes some doing id say, hats off to you. Frank. Cheer,s mate .Must point out they arent all mine.But one of the first thing our lad,s do is stock train.atb. Catcher 1 Agree. My lurcher is terrified of sheep and cattle, wont even run a rabbit threw them.. As you can see in the post get them in there young mate.It saves alot of hassle later on.Pluz most farmers will want to see how your dogs behave round stock.One bad move can lose you good ground.atb.Catcher 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Dogs know the difference between sheep and deer, dont worry about that.but it is a good idea just to double-check once they have dropped their first deer (pre-ban). Personally i have never had one of my dogs worry sheep and only onece did one run one a little way. They know the difference. If your in tune with your sapling he will know what he is allowed to chase and what he isnt.... true enough darcy but i have seen more lads with weaton or bull crosses break their dogs to sheep and work deer only to find they have an interest in sheep again these lads where for ever saying the same they all know the difference ended up on my permission with one dead sheep an old dog and a pup ruined.my own dog on the lead. from now on all dogs will be on lead around sheep on our permission. every dog is stock broken until it changes its mind. i find with the tougher type dogs even when they 100% stock broken all it takes is some one elses dog to have a go and they all chase with the jelous terrier streak some can have. a sheep caught in box fencing can also kick them off for me the lead on around my permission for any one in around sheep. have seen it more than once saying he never looked at sheep before you can loose a hole area over sheep getting killed macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ulverston moocher 60 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 My mate has a first cross bull greyhound coming up 2year old he has had it around stock since 12week old never had a fault every outher dog out of this litter have been pts for going in on sheep so my mate has never trusted her even though she has been spot on last week he took her to scotland on the fox's she was spot on then she went in on a sheep he was going to shoot her but I have said I will have her she has been left up scotland with some lads that stopped an extra week and she has been run every night and hasnt done it again but my mate is unforgiving im just hoping I can sort her out because this bitch is shit hot but if she wont brake il have her put down but I want to give her a second chance and I will only work her on rabbit to see if it was just because she was to exicited off the foxing any ideas she comes to mine this week end. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 get your self an electric colar i find its not a training aid but very good at correcting faults if the dog has had a taste already. some people hate those colars but if the dog knows it not to kill sheep but still does it can save the dogs life i think. best of luck its only the very odd few that will have a go after the dog has been stock broken properely but still not worth the risk never alow her to even glance at sheep while on lead even if dog does not pull on lead hope this is some help macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Electric collars can be used for stock breaking and I have used them for this myself BUT, and its a big but you need the timing to be spot on or the problem can become much worse............... Zap just before the dog chases or connects (with a command if possible) and the collar can be great but get your timing wrong and zap the dog as he connects he will often associate the correction and pain to have come from the animal and may step up a gear.................. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
macker 5 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 good point simon are the ruin of any dog if not used properely i find them leads that will extend when you press the button work well when using the colar some decent dog lads will swear by not using them and never needed to but also some decent lads have been unlucky enough to have a dog that needed to use it. all the best macker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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