clarissa 0 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Any tips for remedial cases? Bonkers whippy pup coming up 9 months, visits stables/horses twice a week, regularly walked in stock on lead. Rock hard, scared of nothing, chases owt that moves. 16.2hh horses to birds all fair game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sam3009 4 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Undisputed your a scream,lol.Ive heard some silly tales in my lifetime but thats the best yet, Video that for me would ye,lol.Theres no need to be doing anything dramatic to sort the dogs out with stock.Just get up off yer arse and when the dog is a wee pup walk it amongst the sheep etc and if it looks wrong at them give an unmerciful roar to get its attention,once this is done a few times(usually once or twice is more than adequit)the message gets through.Using whips etc is not needed.When force is needed thats a sign you left it much to late to be introducing a pup to farm animals.Regularity is the way forward.If yer dogs are not broken to stock then you havent done yer ground work and the rest of its working life is tainted because of it.If ye loose yer permission because of it,dont blame the dog chasing the stoc,blame yourself for letting it happen.Although I agree with You whole heartedly, this method does not ALWAYS work.......FACT. My 10 month old bull X bitch has a phenonemal prey drive, and for the first time in thirty years I'm toiling with breaking a dog to stock. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
don1 1 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 i av a bull grey big dog not steady an had contact , anyone any ideas to sort it hes two an half ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bullmastiff 615 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 (edited) Undisputed you b*****d :realmad: . How dare you put such ridiculus, unthoughful posts on this forum... I tried it and the poor cows got third degree burns all over it's udders from being dragged backwards around the field behind Tia. The farmers fuming!!! He had to spend most of the £250 he made on sending in the tape, buying Savlon burneze. As I type this, the poor cow is sat in a bucket of iced water weeping that she may never be able to feed her calves again. Just think of the calves next time you think of posting advice ok? Edited May 7, 2009 by bullmastiff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,874 Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sam3009,if you started the pup at a very young age and up to now it still hasnt excepted stock,then I reckon it never will.Most of my bull terriers over the years were stock steady but well up for a chase of most other things.It becomes a personal decision what to do with the animal after that,but dogs with huge prey drive do not take to anything that run about wildly.I had a bullxgreyhound 12 years ago that although was steady to stock when calm was just unpredictable when on game.I gave it to a mate as a draw dog and informed him of his instabilities,later on I heard he made contact with the wooly ones and was put to sleep over it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sam3009 4 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Sam3009,if you started the pup at a very young age and up to now it still hasnt excepted stock,then I reckon it never will.Most of my bull terriers over the years were stock steady but well up for a chase of most other things.It becomes a personal decision what to do with the animal after that,but dogs with huge prey drive do not take to anything that run about wildly.I had a bullxgreyhound 12 years ago that although was steady to stock when calm was just unpredictable when on game.I gave it to a mate as a draw dog and informed him of his instabilities,later on I heard he made contact with the wooly ones and was put to sleep over it.Cheers jig for the input. to date, I've never jacked on a dog. Shes still a pup, so hopefully a little patiens, a firm tongue and an electric collar will sort her oot! LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,874 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 sam i wouldnt consider it jacking, permission and good realations with the farmer comes first.personally theres no place for an unsteady dog no matter how good at his job he is.I spend a load of time around the sheep and i want to be relaxed doing my thing not wondering what is happening when the dogs are out of sight.The shock collar might be the job let me know how it works.Great credit for not giving up and she still is young. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,874 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 just read that back and it sounds SOOOO WRONG Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poacher3161 1,766 Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 can be hard if theirs no sheep in your area i have seen dogs that were 100 percent on sheep in a feild but [bANNED TEXT] they spotted one on open moorland they needed correcting so the enviorment can have a lot do with succesfull stock breaking imho.atvb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold Ethyl 63 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Share Posted May 9, 2009 If they look slap them hard and fast.May sound cruel but better than a dead dog! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anythingoes 28 Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 Well it just goes to show peoples methods may differ from time to time atb anythingoes Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jigsaw 11,874 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 very interesting post,good to see different opinions.no one is completely right or wrong.I still think at 6-12 weeks old though the dog can be persuaded to ignore the woolys MOST of the time.keep yer thoughts coming on this one,good to read other peoples comments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Catcher 1 639 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Teach them young Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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