PELLET LUBE and Diesel Soaked Pellets!!

[thorpedo 0]

Can anyone shed any light on the effectiveness of the pellet lube?

Does it make any difference at all?

 

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Also, ive heard a rumour of people soaking their pellets in diesel, sounds crazy but apparently there is enough friction

between the barrel and pellet to ignite the pellet and give it a bit more power!

 

Any thoughts or knowledge on either would be great

 

cheers

[T78 4]

diesel? lol,ever heard the term "dieseling"?? as for purpose made lube,some think it makes a difference,some don't. for instance,i used to use napier lube on my pellets but it seems that my current gun doesn'y like lubed pellets. try it and see?

[ssssh1forthepot 0]

Can anyone shed any light on the effectiveness of the pellet lube?

Does it make any difference at all?

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-NAPIER-POWER-SPR...bayphotohosting

 

 

Also, ive heard a rumour of people soaking their pellets in diesel, sounds crazy but apparently there is enough friction

between the barrel and pellet to ignite the pellet and give it a bit more power!

 

Any thoughts or knowledge on either would be great

 

cheers

 

I think the ''dieseling'' that your refering to accurs when then gun has been lubed up with oil and some of the excess oil ignites in the barrell due to the pressure and friction, but I may be wrong.

[hiho 5]

iv heard of putting a drop of diesel on the bottom of each pellet wouldnt try it tho it might fu*k my gun up

[Guest hyperion]

dieseling happens when exces oil ect gets infront of the piston in spring powered guns, the pressure of the piston compressing the air in the cylinder ignights the oil! common in new guns but soon clears up but can ruin your rifle if done on purrpose!

cheers

hyperion

[mad al 146]

Well I've never used anything to lube pellets in the forty years I've had air rifles, but some swear by it, Some folk wash pellets to get rid of any swarf etc in the tin, so I'm guessing they'd use some sort of oil then and I also know a fella who sprays carb. cleaner in the barrel of his rifle now and then to clean it.

 

I think Kerosene would be as good as anything if you wanted a lubricant, but I think they're best left as is in my opinion

[fin and fur 2]

if you do go down the pellet lube route then be careful not to get pools of the lube forming in the pellets skirt recess

as this is when dieseling will occur, you will also find that this does nothing for pellet accuracy

i too have used the napier pellet lube and used to drip the lube over the pellets in the tin and put the lid on giving them a good shake

this was he cause of some lube getting into the pellets skirts

it is best if using such lubes to driop the lube into an empty tin and then add the pellets

[alan489 0]

Never lubed pellets before, I get on fine without so don't think i'd bother even trying. Don't like the idea of trying to get more power by dieseling it either, recipe for disaster in my opinion and could ruin a good gun

[klarakoi 0]

if you do go down the pellet lube route then be careful not to get pools of the lube forming in the pellets skirt recess

as this is when dieseling will occur, you will also find that this does nothing for pellet accuracy

i too have used the napier pellet lube and used to drip the lube over the pellets in the tin and put the lid on giving them a good shake

this was he cause of some lube getting into the pellets skirts

it is best if using such lubes to driop the lube into an empty tin and then add the pellets

 

Sorry mate,

 

Dieseling doesn't happen in the barrel it happens in the piston chamber, but your right about the lube in the empty tin first, that does work, lol, I only use lube on one of my rifles and that's the Gamo Shadow and the difference is quite a lot, Takes mine from 14.5 FPE to over 16.FPE, and has no adverse affects to my accuracy, so if your thinking of using any lube you best make sure you ain't going over to the dark side???

All the best,

 

Rob.

[fin and fur 2]

if you do go down the pellet lube route then be careful not to get pools of the lube forming in the pellets skirt recess

as this is when dieseling will occur, you will also find that this does nothing for pellet accuracy

i too have used the napier pellet lube and used to drip the lube over the pellets in the tin and put the lid on giving them a good shake

this was he cause of some lube getting into the pellets skirts

it is best if using such lubes to driop the lube into an empty tin and then add the pellets

 

Sorry mate,

 

Dieseling doesn't happen in the barrel it happens in the piston chamber, but your right about the lube in the empty tin first, that does work, lol, I only use lube on one of my rifles and that's the Gamo Shadow and the difference is quite a lot, Takes mine from 14.5 FPE to over 16.FPE, and has no adverse affects to my accuracy, so if your thinking of using any lube you best make sure you ain't going over to the dark side???

All the best,

 

Rob.

 

are you sure that dieseling cannot also occur in the barrel as well as the air chamber ?, in effect when the air passes into the barrel you are adding compressed air to the pellet lube in the pellets skirt in the barrel which inadvertantly diesels and acts as a propellant, i have noticed that when i have thumbed a pellet into the breech of my rifle and that pellet has suffered from a build up of pellet lube that the pellet leaves the barrel with a bang in a cloud of smoke, this has only happened when i have used a pellet with lube in the skirt, i think that the issue of dieseling only occuring in the air chamber came about in the days before pellet lubes were as commonly used as they are today and the lube between the piston and air chamber was the only lube that could be hald responsible for dieseling, some even encouraged this as they believed that it would enhance their rifles performance, however dieseling does nothing for accuracy and is best avoided, sorry mate i just dont buy it when you say that dieseling will only occer in the barrel, dieseling will occur either in the barrel when excessive pellet lube will be at fault or in the air chamber itself when the lube between the piston and the chamber wall is the cause, all you need is a lube that will ignite under pressure and in the case of pellet lube this will mean dieseling in the barrel

 

all the best

 

Fin and Fur

[bullsmilk 2]

i used to put diesel behind the pellet and dont do it it will f**k the gun. also the derv combusting under presure can put the pellet over the limmit(12ftlb) and land you in a lot of bother. itl be the same in the courts eyes as you walking around with a shot gun

[ulverston moocher 60]

I used to wash my pellets with fairy washing up liquid then put them in a towel with a spray of wd40 wrap them to remove ecsess oil and then put back in pellet pouch only done this when I had springers years ago not tryed it with pcp but didnt ever make much difference so I dont bother no more straight out the tin into pouch then in gun.

[Deker 3,478]

Wether this be myth or fact I have never had any time for this..what is the point..tune your rifle to the optimum (or buy it that way) and what is the point.

 

S**t and muck up the barrel, time and effort and cost involved and for what???

 

Good marketing is all I can think of!!

 

You have to stop at 12ft lb anyway, and even if you want to screw the law, there are more efficient ways of doing it than pellet lube!!

[klarakoi 0]

if you do go down the pellet lube route then be careful not to get pools of the lube forming in the pellets skirt recess

as this is when dieseling will occur, you will also find that this does nothing for pellet accuracy

i too have used the napier pellet lube and used to drip the lube over the pellets in the tin and put the lid on giving them a good shake

this was he cause of some lube getting into the pellets skirts

it is best if using such lubes to driop the lube into an empty tin and then add the pellets

 

Sorry mate,

 

Dieseling doesn't happen in the barrel it happens in the piston chamber, but your right about the lube in the empty tin first, that does work, lol, I only use lube on one of my rifles and that's the Gamo Shadow and the difference is quite a lot, Takes mine from 14.5 FPE to over 16.FPE, and has no adverse affects to my accuracy, so if your thinking of using any lube you best make sure you ain't going over to the dark side???

All the best,

 

Rob.

 

are you sure that dieseling cannot also occur in the barrel as well as the air chamber ?, in effect when the air passes into the barrel you are adding compressed air to the pellet lube in the pellets skirt in the barrel which inadvertantly diesels and acts as a propellant, i have noticed that when i have thumbed a pellet into the breech of my rifle and that pellet has suffered from a build up of pellet lube that the pellet leaves the barrel with a bang in a cloud of smoke, this has only happened when i have used a pellet with lube in the skirt, i think that the issue of dieseling only occuring in the air chamber came about in the days before pellet lubes were as commonly used as they are today and the lube between the piston and air chamber was the only lube that could be hald responsible for dieseling, some even encouraged this as they believed that it would enhance their rifles performance, however dieseling does nothing for accuracy and is best avoided, sorry mate i just dont buy it when you say that dieseling will only occer in the barrel, dieseling will occur either in the barrel when excessive pellet lube will be at fault or in the air chamber itself when the lube between the piston and the chamber wall is the cause, all you need is a lube that will ignite under pressure and in the case of pellet lube this will mean dieseling in the barrel

 

all the best

 

Fin and Fur

 

Sorry mate,

But the word and condition of dieseling is only to do with explosive combustion in the forward end of the air cylinder, on a spring powerd rifle,, its exactly the same as a deisel engine in a car,, working on trapped gases compressed to a very high pressure,, this cannot happen with the pellet because the propellant is always behind the pellet,, yes the gun will go bang and there will be a puff of smoke, but that has nothing to do with the word dieseling that we know,, this is why when we tune rifles we never allow oil forward of the front end of the piston, also if there was any possibility that lubing a pellet to the manufacturers instructions would cause damage to yours or my air rifles do you really think they would sell you it,,, I dont think so,, we used to wax, wash, and oil our pellets in the old days, and as far as I'm aware some of the best FT; and HFT shooters still do,, but this is only my opinion,, not a war,, lol,, all the best,

Rob..

[8shot 191]

napier pellet lube worked well in my stealth

aslong as you get an even covering over each pellet

but be carefull your gun may be over powered using it

 

why not try the napier pellets they have worked for me in a range of guns

and the napier power target pellets work a treat on squizzels and ferals

atb 8shot