Guest Geordie Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 IMO video clips like that should ave some sort of censorship imposed on them by this site. While i can see the importance of educating others to the ways of the world, and what happens in other parts of the world. I personally,think that clips like that have no place on this hunting site. I know that my son often visits this site from his school computer, i would not like to think that other kids visited this site simply to look at that video. As i say just my OWN OPINION, but i honestly think that clip has no place on this site. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Corkonian Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I didn't watch all the video :sick: - makes you wonder about the antis we have in Irl and the UK - they know full well that there's next to no 'cruelty' involved in what we do - with things like in that video going on in the world they'd want to get their priorities straight. I have seen the odd lad come out that gets a kick out of cruelty - they never last long though. There's no way our stolen dogs are ending up in China - in all fairness could you imagine the resources it would take to have gangs out robbing dogs and then shipping them 1000's of miles - it's not that hard to breed a litter of pups Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mistwalker 0 Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Man, I couldn't watch all o that :sick: . When the poor wee fecker was skinned alive and ya can still see him twitchin I cried my eyes out. At least with us, the animal either lives or dies a quick death! Those fuckers should be stopped! Not much chance though, eh? Anti's would end up in a bowl o f****n won-ton soup over there! How the f**k can any human being be so bloody cruel? Don't they know that animals can feel pain too? There are no words to describe them (but I can think o a few to describe [bANNED TEXT] should be done to them :ph34r: :ph34r: ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mistwalker 0 Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 IMO video clips like that should ave some sort of censorship imposed on them by this site.While i can see the importance of educating others to the ways of the world, and what happens in other parts of the world. I personally,think that clips like that have no place on this hunting site. I know that my son often visits this site from his school computer, i would not like to think that other kids visited this site simply to look at that video. As i say just my OWN OPINION, but i honestly think that clip has no place on this site. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Are you tryin to say that people shouldn't be educated about [bANNED TEXT]'s goin on across there? This is the sort o stuff that everyone should be made aware of - only then can something be done about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 sorry Andy but I disagree, I think its important that people know about the terrible cruelty that goes on in other countries (as well as our own) only from the point of view of educating people and making them stop and think - dont buy coats with fur on them for starters - a because they look poncy and b - because they could have come from a god awful place like this and I dont mean a full length fur coat, I mean the ones with fur trims on the hoods, a lot of them end up in the UK, and this link shows you how that fur was stripped from the animals while still alive I think anyone whos against unnecessary and barbaric acts of cruelty, whether they are pro hunting or anti (and we all know antis visit and read the site ) will agree that making people aware of the things that are going on behind the scenes, is a good thing, although I can see your point and the link is pretty stern stuff, Ian can remove it if he feels it has no place on the site. Hope I didnt offend anyone by posting it that wasnt my intention, I just thought it might make the antis think twice about what constitutes a "cruel" death and then compare that with a fox being humanely killed, as well as drawing it to peoples attention if they werent allready aware of the dog fur/meat trade. sorry again if I have offended anyone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IanB 0 Posted March 14, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 One things for sure, we are all hunters......some people may think hunting is cruel for whatever reason they believe.....but we respect our quarry and always aim for a quick clean kill, thats the nature of our hunting....but to an outsider who may look upon this site, they see were not bloodthirsty killers that want to cause suffering, by our reaction to the clip....anyone treating a living creature like that deserves the same...that treatment shown is truely barbaric.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest alfie Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 unfucking believable, i did'nt - could'nt watch it all that's is truely barbaric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest chilli Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 as f****d up as it sounds hunting with dogs wont be banned in that country will it ? different place different culture theyve been doing these things for hundreds proberbly thousands of years , yeah most of keep dogs but we see things difernt to them and they value there culture and are trying to hang on to it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Geordie Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 I believe that my post has either not been read properly,or has been a bit vague in how i feel about this clip. I do believe also that people should be educated as to what is happening around the world,wether it be the mistreatment of animals or people. What i did say is that there should be,in my opinion,some sort of censorship imposed on them by this site. Charliec, i have not taken offence at your post or link As i said,JUST MY OPINION. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CharlieC Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Ok, perhaps it was out of place, but Id just watched it earlier that day and it was still fresh in my mind and It made me think about how on earth people can call us cruel when theres things like that going on in other countries, but people condone it in a way in this country by buying fur products, albeit a lot of them wont be aware of what kind of fur it is, or where it comes from. I maybe should have put a stronger warning next to it though - sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest saluki Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 :realmad: :realmad: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratkilla 35 Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 thats FU£KING sick and no respect at all crule b*****ds :sick: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smallmouth 1 Posted March 15, 2005 Report Share Posted March 15, 2005 Well I watched it at home last night, (daren’t watch stuff like that on the client’s kit). Watched it ALL the way through too. It was unremittingly grim, but unsurprising. Many of the South East Asian cultures have a reputation for callousness and don’t seem to place that much value on their own lives. So the suffering of animals won’t even register with some of them. I don’t think that delighting in cruelty is the motivation of the skinner in the film. He’s simply doing the job, probably in the way he’s been shown. Maybe there’s less blood to spoil the pelt that way? Maybe the skin comes off easier? Maybe he thinks the meat will taste better? I dread to think.......... But what he’s showing is a complete lack of empathy for the animal, which in western society might see him labelled as a potential psychopath, but in his own culture is probably unremarkable. Anyone remember the snake restaurant scene in one of Michael Palin’s “Around The World” documentaries? Chef brought him a basket of live snakes, then skinned alive the one he selected........at the table........cooked it alive at the table too.........prime time telly!.... :sick: My Sister spent some time in China on business. Went to a prestigious dinner to clinch the deal. Velly, velly important to eat up and not offend your host. They had lobster. It was sat on a bed of ice in the centre of the table. Waiter cracked it, then the guests all helped themselves to bits of lobster meat with chopsticks. After the first mouthful, Sis decided it was undercooked. Her thoughts were confirmed when the half eaten poor b*****d started to try and walk off the dish.............. :sick: The death of a rabbit in the jaws of my lurcher is merciful in comparison to this sort of stuff. Chilli’s right. This culture won’t ban hunting with dogs. They’ll likely eat the dogs that don’t make the grade though......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest hawkaholic Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 very well thought out post ! but it dosent excuse the crule factor , the only ones to blame is the folk who buy the furs :realmad: ! i seen on the news fur was coming back into fashion i never ware it enyway so i have nothing to feal guilty about , sleap easy folks its been going on long before you new about it but now that you know it ,will you just give it time to forget about it or will you be up in arms lol give it a week or so and you will be showing the clip to all who vissits your place and you will be up in arms every time you wach it but will you do enything about it ! or could you do enything about it !! yes folks its a fuckt up world and we all live in it , i found this quote somwhare a while back it goes ( the more i know folk the more i like animals ) f**k now ime sounding like a antie :ph34r: final words ( if i was the guy filming that shit theres no way that animals would have had to suffer what they did ) i would have came home with a chink fur insted of racoon or artic fox f**k the mink theres plenty wild mink in the uk to make a marque tent lol ........ its a nasty world ............ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smallmouth 1 Posted March 16, 2005 Report Share Posted March 16, 2005 Not excusing it, just trying to explain it. I won't be showing anybody that clip, it's too grim. But you're damm right I won't be doing anything about it either. Partially because to be able to do anything at all, would involve getting in bed with the wrong sort, fanatics who see everything in black and white and think it's OK to dig somebody's granny up to make their point. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.