ulverston moocher 60 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 german shepard for me, staff's are a waste of time i've got two that would lick you to deaf. I have had a couple of staffs and they havnt been upto much like you said but the two I have now are shit hot the bitch esspecialy the dog wouldnt let any body in the house or yard but the bitch guards with a passion but for me it would have to be the cane corsa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 you got any home made videos simonman you can show us of your dogs just out of interest? I have some on video somewhere, although I don't own a vcr but I'll try and dig them out some time and see if I can post them. P.S. The chickens defrosted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 How about an AKITA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 How about an AKITA I'd rather not keep dogs than have an Akita Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 only know of two and both are keen on guarding there owners houses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wildhorse 1 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 German shepherd and 2 chessie's nothing gets past them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valentino 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 just in brief...remember guarding, protection type dogs are not toys,....there are some really serious animals out there,.. there is also alot of difference between a dog barking etc at someone passing your yard or someone knocking at your dog, there is alot of nervous 'weak' dogs..that you will probably think look the part at the end of a chain or behind your fence..but they are a mile apart from good solid animals...that can do the job valentino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mick 7 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Presa,Bandog or Mal for me Mick.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richard25 0 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 German Shepherd. It has everything. Hugely trainable, loyal, intelligence (oh yes!!) and BIG TEETH!! I'm on my second, can't see me ever not having one. Fell in love with them as a kid - I got bitten by the GSD bug - literally on my fingers, and been in love ever since! I've used mine for a couple of TV jobs, I once had to train him to roll from side to side as if he were putting out a fire...took me half an hour to perfect...stupid?????!!!! oooooooo......don't get me started!! The also have suspicious minds, which makes them a very "switched on" breed, which I like. I also like the loyalty, whilst he is a family dog, he is MY dog first and foremost. Simoman has said everything that really needs to be said. I try not to be judgemental, but if someone doesn't like GSD's...I'm instantly on my guard. Why?? Cos you're a thieving git, who's come a cropper of one or two? Or you don't have the intelligence to admire a real bit of doggy kit?? Or you're scared of big dogs, in which case you're pathetic and we'll have nothing in common!!! I'm not talking about people on here, by the way!!! bugger....perhaps I AM judgemental!!! I have those same thoughts when people dont like bulldogs or staffie type dogs as its just ignorance of not knowing a breed, just like someone commented earlier about if they saw a pitbull in there garden they would be scared lol if i saw a pit in my garden i would run out the door & have a little play with the bugger but i guess thats just me & i can see qualities in all breeds of dogs "just different qualities" a aggressive dog is a aggressive dog no matter of the breed & if yo ulive with dogs in your life you should be obligated to learn there body language & postures, Just my thoughts anyway Brocc, lovely looking bulldog there mate, whos his sire & dam he looks familar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Back Stabbath 1 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Spot on posts by simoman and richard25. American Pitbull? Seriously? Thats a terribly uninformed poll option. Pitbulls were never guard dogs. They were bred to be extremely human friendly. Any dog that showed aggression towards people in dogfight rings throghout the ages, was immediately killed and not bred from. Which is why the "pitbull attacks" don't make much sense other than being down to a psycologically damaged dog, or a dog that has not known any pack stucture. I wouldn't trust GSD's as guards unless you get one from proper working lines. You may think you have a grand guard dog GSD from show/pet lines, but lets see it put under a bit of pressure from an intruder, it will crack. Especially American lines. You can easily outsmart a GSD. The European line Doberman, now theres a guard. If you have ever had one, you will know that they don't rest. They are alert 24/7. The slightest noise and the sleepng doberman will literally spring from lying down to standing in one motion. As well as being highly capable of phsically stopping anyone that intrudes, the Doberman is just too smart. You will never outsmart a Doberman. As an ex Russian soldier once told my father, try to get past one doberman with a gun and you might make it. Try to get past two dobermans with a gun and you have a very slim chance. Try to get past three dobermans with a gun and you're dead. The Doberman is capable of teamwork. Many police forces tend to use GSD's because they are easier, Dobermans will challenge you. They are just smarter. The Doberman also has a strange ability to instinctively know who to be hostile to and who to be friendly to. My Doberman absolutely LOVES visitors. He greets visitors the same as he greets us when we come home. But if someone is hanging around the fields (like burglars the other night), he will growl and bark and I dread to think what he would do if he caught them. But try to leave a Doberman in a yard all day and treat it as a "guard dog", and you will be unpleasantly surprized. The dog is likely to go crazy at strangers for attention only. Long term, the dog will begin to sway from boredom and will become so phsycologically damaged that it may just die. Heres basically what my dog looks like. My dog is a young Yugoslavian line dog with a good few Schutzhund, other woking titles and CH titles in his pedigree. This is NOT MY DOG, it is a very similar one though - I cannot stress how intelligent the Doberman is, but to someone looking for an "easy guard dog" no way would I recommend this dog. I recommend an alarm system and a weapon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FLATTOP 4,338 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Shar-Pei all day had one for over ten years extremely territorial and loyal break in or trespass and you are f****d. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Spot on posts by simoman and richard25. As an ex Russian soldier once told my father, try to get past one doberman with a gun and you might make it. Try to get past two dobermans with a gun and you have a very slim chance. Try to get past three dobermans with a gun and you're dead. Was the gun unloaded? I have worked several dobermans, both show bred stuff and European imports, I must admit I wouldn't kennel any of them, the imports were sharp and very switched on BUT had weak nerves when put under pressure and weren't terribly safe on the protection field with other people, one was quite happy to to try and latch onto anyone when its was agitated. Also I wouldn't agree that dobes are smarter, I trained dogs for sports and dobes were never a popular choice as they don't work as well as many of the recognised breeds. However its horses for courses and whatever breed takes your fancy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lampinglurcher 36 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 I've worked european and aussie doberman, the europeans as simoman said are very sharp and edgy, not what i look for in a protection dog. One of the best I've ever seen was a dingo/GSD we had in at work for a while, very switched on, smart, tough, aggresive, but at the same time very biddable and loyal. The safest bet would be a well bred german shep -simoman I've pm'd you. rotties i find need more persuasion to be loyal and protective. american bulldogs, or the ones i've worked with at least amaze me every time. love em. pit bulls can be trained to a reasonable degree as can staffs and am staffs but i wouldnt pick one out of choice. most boxers are a joke. ive worked with 2 dogue de bordeaux and was fairly happy with them, didnt astound me though. the few ridgebacks i have had experience with were either brilliant or dribbling messes. I'm of the belief that almost any breed can be trained in personal protection provided it passed the temperament test, but some are much better than others. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chris 78 1 Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 (edited) german shepherd for me. can be nasty bas**rds. Edited January 28, 2009 by chris 78 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nunavut guy 0 Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 http://www.shilohshepherdsinfo.com/shilohs/images/ANGUS.jpg how about shilohs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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