rights of gamekeepers

[shamo28 1]

i think rabbits are classed as game at night

vermin by day

[whin 463]

youse your head and poach look for [bANNED TEXT] of ways go early or when its quite early sundays, dont stay long and move off when you have had your sport , nothing wrong with a bit of poaching any game if you no the game , permiss is good but well stray off and take your chance ,there plenty bits of land wre you can get a rabbit or two with out geting nabbed,i think poaching properly you have to be brought up on it like alot i no in the past and present

[iamduvern 62]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

[moley 115]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

 

you wouldn,t last two minutes around here if you take on that attitude,

 

rabbits are pests if you have permission and game if you do not , thats how i understand it

[gnipper 6,543]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

Has anyone ever tried to return the compliment and get the police on your mate as a keeper shooting a dog that hasn't got into his pen is a big no no, a no no that will get you done and lose your fac or at the very best get the f**k kicked out of you.

Sounds like you've listened to a keeper that see's himself as above the law like most of the old ones do. You can't shoot a dog unless its in an enclosure worrying stock is what I was taught at college.

[spiderpig 39]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

i think you are full of shit as if the dogs were shot the polkice would be arresting the keeper and yourself and also be charged with criminal damage to the motor, so stop talking bollox as most decent lads either wouldnt be caught or give you both a good hiding for a start.. rabbits are not game, there nis no such charge as poaching either its trespass in pursuit of game, but dousnt apply to rabbits or foxes ect,only gamebirds and hares.its a very very hard case to prove unless caught with a boot full of phesants,most keepers are shit scared anyway not like game old time boys.all they do is call there mates pretend to look hard and drive round with there lights on,there is very very few who will leave the safety of the truck to actually come and say anything to you.

[bill88 6]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

Scum!! is that what poachers are ? i'll tell you and your keeper mate something,my eldest has on occasions had to retrieve his dogs from shoot land bordering his own permission after the dogs have followed rabbits through hedges or over fences,if you'd given my lad a good kick in and shot his dogs you'd best get a flight out the f*cking country.This is the f*cking attitude that cause's the problems.Are we back to the days of the gentry and the peasant ?

[hily 380]

thats the thing though,i dont really see myself as a poacher as im only taking rabbits,i know in the laws eyes im poaching but to me at worst im tresspassing.

tewks i think most of us have done a bit of poaching at some time and we new their was laws writen and mebees unwriten but can i ask you something what do you think gamees are for are they working men doing a job or are they their to just stop people poaching.Sorry if this gone of the thread but their seems to be a hostile attitude towards keepers is this from personel experienses or a general feeling amongst those who don't or cannot get any permision or is it everyone .

[Guest tewkesferreter]

ive personally got no bad feelings towards keepers atall,there doing a job which cant be easy. but when you get dirty horrible c**ts who think they own the countryside and anyone that dares to walk on it,thats what pisses me off. saying that the prick that came out with the comment about calling the dog back or hell shoot wasnt even a keeper,just a hanger on,is people like that that give real keepers a bad name. by the way,ive got a fair bit of permission anyway but it dont get the juices flowing like abit of poaching.

[John-B 4]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

 

Well I would say both the keeper and you have the wrong attitude, If anybody took a shot at my dogs whether I was poaching or not I wouldn't be held responsible for my actions and would probably set fire to the whole plot of land!

[whin 463]

by the sounds ofmthings there more fire raisers on here and comp hunters, than real poachers mate you wouldnt see a rreal poacher mate take it from me , in and out and away and at odd times , not many on here could poach an egg let alone start a fire had guys up doing a bit hunting and had to make sure thy didint get lost in some of these big estates we have in scotland , i dont realy think a god gamekepers would have much to worry about in these channels honestly ,

[whin 463]

i no guys and been there at the old salmos with well paid bailiffes after us .,so its there job to catch you not feed phesis like chickens or trap things, there there to catch poachers and check the water ,a bit harder than poaching game and stiffer fines sentences,not being funny have any use realy been at the game ,and not computer generated hunting have you hunted land with game intimitly for decades , and ducking and diving to keep one step in front , never had to burn a barn and if caut well you can always eye the situation up and make your own mind up , you can usaly here or see a keeper or bizzys long before they see you unless nite sites etc even then if you no the land like the back of your hand youll get to no places were they park up hide tyre tracks etc

[Yokel Matt 918]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

 

Well I would say both the keeper and you have the wrong attitude, If anybody took a shot at my dogs whether I was poaching or not I wouldn't be held responsible for my actions and would probably set fire to the whole plot of land!

 

I think the debate on someones dogs getting shot (a few days ago) went along the same sort of lines.. as far as i'm concerned if your caught poaching you reap what you sow, of course the landowner / keeper has a job to do and its in everyones best interests to make sure matters are dealt with with respect to both sides.

 

I don't think threats, empty or not, to burn barns and kill livestock are called for when the poacher / trespasser puts themselves in the situation in the first place.

 

My advice, don't go down that road, get permission... it may open more doors than it closes.

Edited January 16, 2009 by Local

[whin 463]

going down that road sometimes thats the road you have to ,localy were i was brought up villages working class and middle class after that big estates no people hardly and plenty game hares deer whatever , so you chased them got chased ,all part of the game ,and when you grow up you learn how to do the biz and then move on ,i have permiss but itll ,not stop me wandering for ground game at certain times of the year , such is life as i says before there not many on here thats been at the game for gain so a keeper wouldnt need to worry to much i think, i realy like the burning barn bit sounds like out of american movie if ya dont let me poach ill burn your barn fecking joke , dont get me wrong things have been done to slow them down and let them realise its serouis but best left for a talk in private not some daft comp , i no guys old aqaintaces who are lying in jail because of the salmos and they have done all the mentioned things butt hey aint no heroes as they are to open at times , but they are real and no fear at times , so leave the big talk for the bar , short story but triue a few infamous guys got caut with deer he says ill burn your barn ,rape your wife the eccentric laird says you havent seen my wife yet she was apig , crazy fechers , ended yup letting each other go and let live as the laws were a bit lapsed at that time ,

[John-B 4]

When Im out with the local keeper and we come across any poachers or trespassers first job is to disable any transport they have then challenge them and if they have dogs off the lead allow them to call them if they dont respond immediately then the dogs get shot then wait for the local plod to show then the keeper will insist on arrests and charges being brought

I work hard on my local shoot and it pisses me off when scum turn up and think they have the right to trespass, cause damage and steal and then make out that they are hard done bye when they get nicked for poaching. 20 years ago they would have got a good kicking and all of their kit taken off them and their cars torched but now with the bleeding heart brigade and all the do gooders we have to abide by the law.

Poaching is not a romantic pastime its theft pure and simple the days of people having 1 for the pot is long gone. In the last 2 years we have caught 5 people who have been convicted of poaching and they have all been convicted previously for other crimes eg burglary GBH and handling stolen property

So if you dont want to get caught dont go poaching you risk a fine, jail, property being confiscated and for what ?? a few rabbits

 

 

Well I would say both the keeper and you have the wrong attitude, If anybody took a shot at my dogs whether I was poaching or not I wouldn't be held responsible for my actions and would probably set fire to the whole plot of land!

 

I think the debate on someones dogs getting shot (a few days ago) went along the same sort of lines.. as far as i'm concerned if your caught poaching you reap what you sow, of course the landowner / keeper has a job to do and its in everyones best interests to make sure matters are dealt with with respect to both sides.

 

I don't think threats, empty or not, to burn barns and kill livestock are called for when the poacher / trespasser puts themselves in the situation in the first place.

 

My advice, don't go down that road, get permission... it may open more doors than it closes.

 

 

I don't poach mate and got my own permission, don't see why dogs should be shot though, it's not their fault, it's the poacher who took them there in the first place, anyway i'm fairly new here and not getting into any arguments so i'll leave my opinions at that