Guest night time my time Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 for those that work the collie x,which type of collie do you prefure and why,also what experiance with them have you had?? myself iv always had the border x as it was the 1st lurcher i owned and have never found anything for the alround type of work i use them for(pre ban) thats better for me, Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 for those that work the collie x,which type of collie do you prefure and why,also what experiance with them have you had?? myself iv always had the border x as it was the 1st lurcher i owned and have never found anything for the alround type of work i use them for(pre ban) thats better for me, Have a 3/4 grey 1/4 border and a 3/4 grey 1/8 beardie 1/8 border...and a collie x pup so I guess you could say I'm a fan Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 ive had good border crosses in the past i now run a beardie find him a bit hardier but i might just be kennel blind not keen on the sheltee crosses as one was sick in my car Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 like them all and saw them all work sheep cattle and there crosses some of the borders have been to nesh ie soft not tackle a fox or get to game wise young ie choose what they want to do which is fine , best dogs ive saw were not straight crosses but line bred worker to worker, and saw some cracking home bred beardie border greyhounds ,best border i saw was a big half cross from suffolk bred by someone in norfolk got pics here, was born in 87 i saw him in his prime 3 4 year old some dog on a lamp hares foxes rabbits great dog , saw him catch 24 rabbits and 2 hares on the shingle at martela tower aldeburgh , and several more nites he was real clever powerful and mean as a stoat for the fight , but was a tempremental sod at times like most good dogs as he had an attitude with some people , but a very good dog, marc c glenns beardie cross very good dog , people are silly about dogs at times its not the cross its getting the best one you can get your hands on weather greyhound colli whatever , as ive saw lots of hanckockers who well you would give them there money back if you bred them honestly so furry and slo they wouldnt catch a rabbit in a phone box , best to best only way Quote Link to post
Sorley x 32 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 a leggy working collie with a calm temparement and a nice broad head. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 there one on the next farm 22 or more long strong and calm and sensible great stud dog for useing over good qaulity greyhounds , caught my eye the minute i moved in to farm and surrounding area jumps [bANNED TEXT] inot cattle and kills rats waits till bails gets lifted with fork truck them woosh he gets them a good stamp Quote Link to post
Guest night time my time Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) like them all and saw them all work sheep cattle and there crosses some of the borders have been to nesh ie soft not tackle a fox or get to game wise young ie choose what they want to do which is fine , best dogs ive saw were not straight crosses but line bred worker to worker, and saw some cracking home bred beardie border greyhounds ,best border i saw was a big half cross from suffolk bred by someone in norfolk got pics here, was born in 87 i saw him in his prime 3 4 year old some dog on a lamp hares foxes rabbits great dog , saw him catch 24 rabbits and 2 hares on the shingle at martela tower aldeburgh , and several more nites he was real clever powerful and mean as a stoat for the fight , but was a tempremental sod at times like most good dogs as he had an attitude with some people , but a very good dog, marc c glenns beardie cross very good dog , people are silly about dogs at times its not the cross its getting the best one you can get your hands on weather greyhound colli whatever , as ive saw lots of hanckockers who well you would give them there money back if you bred them honestly so furry and slo they wouldnt catch a rabbit in a phone box , best to best only wayknow the area well mate,can you rember who bred him?,nothing agianst beardies,just the only ones you see are hancock bred down here and they are 2 years before they are mature and seem to lack that final drive,just not hard in anyway,my mates done everything right with his,time and patance to the max,(his got himself a cattle dog pup now,think that will bang hedges),i, his now over 2 years,plenty of pace, top hunting ability, finds anything,will pick rabbits up on the stright in the open but comes within 10 yards of a hedge and he lets them go,just doesnt seem as hard but then they arnt bred from working dogs these days i spose,you need a dog down here that will go that extra yard behind a rabbit and crash up the hedge behind it,thats where most rabbits are taken down here,they know where they live and are soon on the way home when the lamp is on and they get a shift stright for it on this flat open arable and light sandy heath land,looking forward to seeing some real beardies from working stock work though,be up north soon as bitch is fit agian, Edited January 15, 2009 by night time my time Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 i think a lot depends on were you work these had one myself not fast enough for around my way although [bANNED TEXT] put back to other crosses can produce the perfect all rounder.thats bordercollie never had a beardi.just a shame no 1 puppy farmer latched on to them Quote Link to post
jordanmb 0 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 I HAVE BOTH BEARDIE COLLIE AND BORDER COLLIE GOOD DOGS BOTH REALLY CALM Quote Link to post
poacher3161 1,766 Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 there is no deniying the bordercollie/greyhound first cross is a steady dog with proper handling it's just the speed that i found a bit lacking after all if they wer that good they would be alot more of them about . a freind of mine has two hancock bitches beirdi/border and is contemplating putting a grey/whippet over them to speed them up a bit. Quote Link to post
matty73 4 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 i like my first cross border greys but then i pick racy pups that look most like grey its not foolproof as a pup can change sometimes drastically but have more chance than picking pup that looks heavy collie influenced. heres my boy coming up 4yrs now Quote Link to post
sniper 30 Posted April 3, 2009 Report Share Posted April 3, 2009 Beardie First/Cross for me Quote Link to post
codder85 0 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 i have a first cross that i bred seven years ago, the dam a racing bred greyhound from ireland, the sire was a blue welsh hill collie, very strong boned dog not like any other collie ive seen since. Pups had a bit too much bone which affected the speed, and agility of the ones i saw run. the one i kept was a dog, made 26''tts and more like a 3/4 bred to look at but still could not turn quick enough. personally i would prefer a hal cross put back to a grew, the touch of whippet would create sharper dogs that can turn much easily. Quote Link to post
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