Rory4 267 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 another question. the same pup will retrieve anything but recently drops it about 4 foot away. not sure why she is doing it? what can i do? cheers again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j davies 8 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 another question. the same pup will retrieve anything but recently drops it about 4 foot away. not sure why she is doing it? what can i do? cheers again hi mate i got a cocker dog 3 years ago as a pup he has 26 ftch and is one hell of a dog does anything you want over the last 9 months he has stopped retreiving to me. when i shot anything he goes and get it picks it up fetch it within 50 feet or so drops it and sits there i have been talkinbg to the trainers and they say the dog is now controling me ha ha and there is nothing you can do about it. i am now trying this let him retreive somethin from 4 feet and take it off him and carry on from there until you get him right it will take months but well be fun doing it and at the end you can say you did it and no one eles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rory4 267 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 well she is only 5 months so havent retreived anything alive to hand. am tryin to get her told hold stuff in her mouth & hold it shut so when coming near can say hold & hopefully will work. im sure she will grasp it specially will when brings rabbit back she drops it & it get away. cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
j davies 8 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 well she is only 5 months so havent retreived anything alive to hand. am tryin to get her told hold stuff in her mouth & hold it shut so when coming near can say hold & hopefully will work. im sure she will grasp it specially will when brings rabbit back she drops it & it get away.cheers my cocker bitch want retreve any game until she is 14 to 16 months old they are to young for it all it takes is time you can ruin a dog in months and thats it for ever a bit of time and you get 10 years out of it all trouble free Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skycat 6,174 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Bringing a rabbit or dummy right to you is often a matter of cofidence. Holding a 5 month old pup's mouth shut won't do her any good at all. She'll be teething right now as well: sore gums etc. Hold off the serious retrieving until she is at least 6 months old, though personally I would leave it until the pup has gone through the silly teenage stage. A lot depends on what breeds are in your pup too. Concentrate on messing about with very light weight articles such as an empty small coke bottle. Make it a game: it MUST be a game! The pup must want to come to you all happy and bouncy with nothing in its mouth before you ever ask it to bring a dummy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
furdy 0 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Two things to try..... First, try walking back slowly as she comes in and she is quite likely to come tight as she wont be able to work out where to stop and drop it. Another thing to try is the long sit. Just before she drops the dummy, have her sit. If you can do it quickly enough she may hold the dummy, dogs dont always like to drop things from a sitting position. If you watch them spit, they tend to push their heads forward too. This may be enough to make her hold on. \Then you'll have to walk in and take the dummy. Gradually make her sit closer to you until she starts coming to hand again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
doga 50 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 some good advice there mate but with the retreiving as has been said limit it or completly leave it til she has finished teething,when you do continue shorten the distance or just start at the beggining short stuff close to you and realy fill the dog with praise and confidence and most inportant dont over do it three to four throws three times a week to keep her in the swing is enought to much will just souwer a dog.as a matter of interest how is the dog bred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rory4 267 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 first cross collie whippet. cheers for all advice. trust me I do not over do it. she is good retriever just not to hand yet. throw ball for her now & then on walks just want her not to think dropping it is what i want her to do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rory4 267 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Go easy on the treats though....can lead to a few pain in the neck problems later, like spitting out when retrieving, if the dog is expecting a treat he'll start dropping whatever it is he's carrying. just took this quote from the topic training a lurcher is it hard? could this reason for my pup dropping what ever shes retreiving? be suprised if it is because give her 95% fuss for doing something right not treats but gets few treats now and then to keep her thinking. also doesnt come to me get treat just looks at ie the ball like threw it again please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ESS Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 As usual sound advice from Skycat,,,Short retrieves you on all fours or sitting down legs at a vee so she naturally tunnels to you...try to avoid eye contact if the dog drops it dont fret walk away or crawl lol usually the pup will pick dummy up and come to you ,,stroke the dog rather than take it straight of it praise then attempt to remove it gently ,,...more praise when the pup releases it.. If a stands off you try this.. put the dog on a long slip lead five foot... lead Find yourself a entry back alley walk short distance drop the dummy letting the dog see the dummy... back yourself to the alley wall send the dog back the short distance with the lead on ..let the dog pick the dummy call it back in if the dog sits dont fuss pick the lead up use your recall and gently pull it into you ...then loads of praise whilst the dog still holds the dummy.. Another trick if the dog sits is turn yer back on it and walk away whilst blowing the recall.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rory4 267 Posted January 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 cheers mate will give it a try really want get it sorted Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jack Dark 2 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Hi Years ago I had this problem with my old collie lurcher; in his case he initially, in early training, retrieved the dummy to hand and was happy for me to take it from him but then started dropping it a few feet away. To begin with I started crouching down as he got close because I thought he might be intimidated by me standing over him but in his case this didn’t help, he just dropped the dummy as before and then came over and licked my face. My next tactic was to slowly walk backwards as he approached and if he dropped it I would say “fetch†this helped quite a lot. While doing this it suddenly struck me that part of and possibly root of the problem was that he had decided that the sooner he let go of the dummy the sooner I would throw it again. To overcome this I started walking with him at heel a short distance between retrieves. At no point did I tell him of for not retrieving to hand but just saved the mad praise until the dummy was in my hand. He also dropped short when he retrieved his second live rabbit, as I was standing a few feet from the burry the rabbit hit the ground and then promptly ran down a hole, he never did that again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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