charles 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Have read all points on this subject now and i may well be biased as i own a mike brown bred whippet! I have had him from 8 weeks and now ran him for 2 seasons he is just about all of the positive comments posted and none of the negative! I am not usually outspoken but think a lot of the comments are total shite!!!! Most of the people that have added to this point need to see a good working whippet doing what it was bred for!!!! Regards Charles. Quote Link to post
OAKTREE 0 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 what books? My books are not the topic Quote Link to post
lanesra 3,994 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Have read all points on this subject now and i may well be biased as i own a mike brown bred whippet! I have had him from 8 weeks and now ran him for 2 seasons he is just about all of the positive comments posted and none of the negative! I am not usually outspoken but think a lot of the comments are total shite!!!! Most of the people that have added to this point need to see a good working whippet doing what it was bred for!!!! Regards Charles. Totally agree charles . Quote Link to post
jimmy0211 2 Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule. Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out. Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs. Your first point about KC Reg dogs is a load of SHITE, unless that is if you have seen every KC reg dog out working. As you havent then this displays your lack of understanding in dogs. You could of read all the books there is to read or been out with a few dogs, but still your knowledge is limited. All my dogs are KC and would work well with any of your dogs,holding their own and doing what they are bred to do. Ive not seen any books wrote by you so why should anyone take note of what you spew out. Mine against yours anytime there are alot of people who havent wrote any books but no more than the people have written books, have you written any? Yes ive wrote books and given contribution to many others,which meant i had to research my subject.. This research was not based on my own thoughts and ideas but of many others too.But thats not my point,you made a comment about KC Reg dogs saying they were not proper working dogs,what a load of shite.A number of KC reg dogs may never work or get involved in what they were bread to do,but taking that point a lot of crosses never get to do what they were bread to do eiher,its down to the choice of the owner what they want their dogs to do. Enjoy your dogs. well you put his knowledge is limited, yours is too, you wrote a couple of books, well done, but you have failed to mention which ones, why? i didnt make any points about KC reg dogs, i think ive posted 4 times (including this), 2 were complementing whippet xs, as ive not seen pure whippet work im not going to knock em, and 1 you replied to jimmy Quote Link to post
Pennymeadow Whippets 0 Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 Have read all points on this subject now and i may well be biased as i own a mike brown bred whippet! I have had him from 8 weeks and now ran him for 2 seasons he is just about all of the positive comments posted and none of the negative! I am not usually outspoken but think a lot of the comments are total shite!!!! Most of the people that have added to this point need to see a good working whippet doing what it was bred for!!!! Regards Charles. Totally agree charles . I think quite a few will agree Charles Quote Link to post
Guest little lurcher Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 me included!!! Quote Link to post
Chickens4ever05 22 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) want a good working whippet then sooty sam lines are what you want, the majority of lurcher folk think whippets are shivering Ba****ds but the whippet workers know these are the ultimate rabbiting Dog, Sooty Same took all legal quarry in his time, 1000's of rabbits, hares, foxes Roe every thing these dogs have stamina, and drive they have a good nose and are bever wrong, the man wanted photos, heres a few of mine not the best as its my first ever season but you will see wat we mean. they can take some rough tumble and still catch squirrel they dont mind the cold eigther day time hare shot and retieved nice bag there good with live stock another couple of day time sitters another nice haul with the kc whippets more by kc whippets a bit of lure coursing whippet vs lurcher his first ever trip out marking up a couple of rats here so for shity KC registered dog that can work and a bred to a standard for showing dont suppose there that bad, but what do i know. you will find it hard to match a good working bred whippet, look for Sooty sam lines and travell for the dog it'll be the best dog you ever own. common whippet workers show some of you pics, preferably some more experienced workers. Tom Edited February 18, 2009 by Chickens4ever05 Quote Link to post
Guest little lurcher Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 i dont think you have to have sooty sam at all , mine do all i ask and more , see my pics in the thread, they dont have him at all in their lines? however for the average man in street so to speak its a damn good starting place!!! mike browns whippets do what they are bred to do and continue to do so down his lines, but as i have provn you dont base it all on 1 line , dare to step away from 1 dogs lines and you may be pleasantly surprised, i do hope im making sense here ? i am not knocking mikes dogs , just saying there are others Quote Link to post
Guest little lurcher Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 BTW your dogs are a credit to you!!! Quote Link to post
Chickens4ever05 22 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 i dont think you have to have sooty sam at all , mine do all i ask and more , see my pics in the thread, they dont have him at all in their lines? however for the average man in street so to speak its a damn good starting place!!! mike browns whippets do what they are bred to do and continue to do so down his lines, but as i have provn you dont base it all on 1 line , dare to step away from 1 dogs lines and you may be pleasantly surprised, i do hope im making sense here ? i am not knocking mikes dogs , just saying there are others totally agree with what your saying just putting a well known proven name there that you will find in lots of good working dogs, and which i know works for me and others i go out ferreting with, im no knocking other line just mentioning one Tom Quote Link to post
Guest little lurcher Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 i feel awful saying anything against mike , coz he has really put the working whippet in the forefront !! im sure you realise im not knocking him like i said its a well known and respected line , those of us not using his lines need to sit back and work as hard as he has , we are merely apprentices to the man Quote Link to post
charles 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 want a good working whippet then sooty sam lines are what you want, the majority of lurcher folk think whippets are shivering Ba****ds but the whippet workers know these are the ultimate rabbiting Dog,Sooty Same took all legal quarry in his time, 1000's of rabbits, hares, foxes Roe every thing these dogs have stamina, and drive they have a good nose and are bever wrong, the man wanted photos, heres a few of mine not the best as its my first ever season but you will see wat we mean. Exactly mate good on ya!!!! Regards Charles. they can take some rough tumble and still catch squirrel they dont mind the cold eigther day time hare shot and retieved nice bag there good with live stock another couple of day time sitters another nice haul with the kc whippets more by kc whippets a bit of lure coursing whippet vs lurcher his first ever trip out marking up a couple of rats here so for shity KC registered dog that can work and a bred to a standard for showing dont suppose there that bad, but what do i know. you will find it hard to match a good working bred whippet, look for Sooty sam lines and travell for the dog it'll be the best dog you ever own. common whippet workers show some of you pics, preferably some more experienced workers. Tom Quote Link to post
firstrike 21 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 You have some nice dogs mate.. catching well Quote Link to post
adrianvygus 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 Im reallyjust interested in what all you guys n gals run pure whippets on? Im looking into getting one (pure bred) and im interested to see what I could possibly put it on.Would like to see some pics if possible Cheers Jordan Hello Jorden I had a pedigree Whippet dog back in the 's he sired my whippet/ Bedlington x greyhound Lurchers. In his life he caught two Hares, loads of rabbits, some Pheasants and shed loads of rats, and a Fox he stood around 18 inches at the shoulder, He also won a bin liner full of rosettes despite losing the end of his ear chasing a rabbit through a barbed wire fence. my current Whippet is a nonped racer but I think she's faster than the old dog, Whippets are a doddle to train and are capable of doing just about anything you'd want them to do, except the dishes, mind you if you leave them in reach.... they are however theiving little buggers! Quote Link to post
adrianvygus 0 Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 want a good working whippet then sooty sam lines are what you want, the majority of lurcher folk think whippets are shivering Ba****ds but the whippet workers know these are the ultimate rabbiting Dog,Sooty Same took all legal quarry in his time, 1000's of rabbits, hares, foxes Roe every thing these dogs have stamina, and drive they have a good nose and are bever wrong, the man wanted photos, heres a few of mine not the best as its my first ever season but you will see wat we mean. Exactly mate good on ya!!!! Regards Charles. they can take some rough tumble and still catch squirrel they dont mind the cold eigther day time hare shot and retieved nice bag there good with live stock another couple of day time sitters another nice haul with the kc whippets more by kc whippets a bit of lure coursing whippet vs lurcher his first ever trip out marking up a couple of rats here so for shity KC registered dog that can work and a bred to a standard for showing dont suppose there that bad, but what do i know. you will find it hard to match a good working bred whippet, look for Sooty sam lines and travell for the dog it'll be the best dog you ever own. common whippet workers show some of you pics, preferably some more experienced workers. Tom Sublime chap sublime! Quote Link to post
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.