Whippet quarry

[whippeter69 88]

Took my whippet ferreting the other day and she was working to the long net flushing them in and when they hit it shed jump over the net(because she was so close behind them) and hold them there until i got there, Im very pleased with her.

 

Love whippets, great little dogs that can boost you rabbit numbers easily.

[Hollie 21]

I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel.

 

 

I might take you up on that next year when my guy is old enough, i just hope he is quick

[LEWIS123 449]

i ran rabbit. she would retrive shot hare tried fox but she wasnt having none of it

[blackpack 70]

ive ran a whippet for the last 8 9 years and for shear size and weight you cant beat them ive took rabbit day and night from fields to dense cover hedges and woods shes caught hares day and night obviously not a lot but has and for 4 years she was my only fox dog to mark draw and catch foxes and she did with ease she had a pure hatred for charlie boy shes only 22 inch or so but she has at times put the big dogs to shame and theres a few on this site who have seen hes work and say i should of bred from her she has sooty sam lines

[whippeter69 88]

ive ran a whippet for the last 8 9 years and for shear size and weight you cant beat them ive took rabbit day and night from fields to dense cover hedges and woods shes caught hares day and night obviously not a lot but has and for 4 years she was my only fox dog to mark draw and catch foxes and she did with ease she had a pure hatred for charlie boy shes only 22 inch or so but she has at times put the big dogs to shame and theres a few on this site who have seen hes work and say i should of bred from her she has sooty sam lines

 

Sounds like a good whippet, how many foxes did she have ?

[blackpack 70]

had a fair few dont know exactly as i not into numbers but she worked every saturday on our local gun pack and pulled a fair few and also marked them

[whippeter69 88]

Not a lot of people realize that a whippet is capable of taking something bigger then a hare, I will always own a whippet, always room for one in my kennel.

[blackpack 70]

same here will always have a whippet in my kennels from decent lines though

[charles 0]

A few interesting points raised.

 

To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits.

 

Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule.

 

Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out.

 

Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs.

I LIKE YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT KC REG DOGS HOW HAVE YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION MY WHIPPET IS KC AND SHIT HOT ON RABBITS ALL MIKE BROWNS DOGS ARE KC AND THEY ARE TOP WORKING WHIPPETS

Hello mate well spoken from a mike brown whippet owner! Regards Charles.

[charles 0]

Maybe its just the ones I've seen. They seem to be all neck and legs and dont appear to have any fire about them. I know there are exceptions though. Look at the differences between show dogs and working dogs. I may have been just a bit too broad with that statement, but think to be certain you need to look toward proven working lines. Very emotive subject isnt it.

Think you might have opened up a hornets nest with the mike brown whippet owners on this forum! Good hunting. Regards Charles.

[JordKil 0]

Good amount of views on the subject lol. Well I personally only take rabbits and wouldnt mind the odd hare if I had a dog that could catch them and to work with my collie while ferreting and lamping. By the sounds of it I would be best with one from working lines,right? Does anyone know of any good breeders of working lines on Scotland? The ones I was looking at were show by the looks of it Froal Whippets they were called....

 

Cheers folks

Jordan

[wild rover 548]

I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel.

 

As mentioned they are very inteligent for a pure sighthound and they have a very good nose, i wouldn't be without mine when i'm ferreting, they mark 100% and there more than capable of catching a bolting rabbit within feet of the rabbit warren..

 

 

Good to hear from someone who works a whippet, mate used to have one a few years back but it didn't fare well in the winter lamping could not cope with 30-40 runs in wet windy nights, is this normal or are yours more robust.

[SIZO 0]

A few interesting points raised.

 

To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits.

 

Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule.

 

Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know

they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out.

 

Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs.

[SIZO 0]

Well i have got to say that Furdy has hit the nail on the head generally speaking' I run a three quarter whippet bedy shit hot on bunnies that's what I got him for has caught the odd hare and when slipped with my mates(Reevsy) Bull cross he get stuck in most things with four legs but as the old saying goes Horses for courses' Dont know wether photo has uploaded but that is Hunter lad's 8 and a bit inch russell with my dog make a good little team on the Dales

Edited January 12, 2009 by SIZO

[furdy 0]

Ok.....I'm waving a white flag for a minute....Didn't want to start a war guys.......

 

Was only opinion, but if I can qualify slightly without everyone throwing things at me......

 

I've never owned a whippet but have most certainly seen plenty work and have nothing against a decent dog from good working stock. But look at the so called working breeds that get pranced around crufts, they have been bred to type, without consideration for any working ability, nose, stamina or general gameness. They are judged solely on aesthetics, not a good base for a working running dog. I hope that says what I mean in the right way.

 

And I would have to stand by my belief that whippet crosses offer no advantage over the bigger dogs. I know whippets take hare, but not as consistently. I'm sorry. If you slipped a whippet into a hare that had left the seat at 60 yards you wouldn't expect it to catch it but rather you'd hope he may. I also know that whipptes will go into foxes, I just think they are not ideal, it all takes just a bit too long. I'm not convinced that its good for the dog or the fox.

 

The beddy/ irish debate.....thats a hard one.......I think the Irish terrier edges it. They produce racier looking lurchers, slightly quicker, just as hardy and quite a lot gamier. I've had both. I know which I prefer.

 

I wasnt having a go at anyones choice of dog and if they all do what you want of them thats all that matters.....

 

Am gonna take cover again...!!!