Guest little lurcher Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Ok.....I'm waving a white flag for a minute....Didn't want to start a war guys....... Was only opinion, but if I can qualify slightly without everyone throwing things at me...... I've never owned a whippet but have most certainly seen plenty work and have nothing against a decent dog from good working stock. But look at the so called working breeds that get pranced around crufts, they have been bred to type, without consideration for any working ability, nose, stamina or general gameness. They are judged solely on aesthetics, not a good base for a working running dog. I hope that says what I mean in the right way. And I would have to stand by my belief that whippet crosses offer no advantage over the bigger dogs. I know whippets take hare, but not as consistently. I'm sorry. If you slipped a whippet into a hare that had left the seat at 60 yards you wouldn't expect it to catch it but rather you'd hope he may. I also know that whipptes will go into foxes, I just think they are not ideal, it all takes just a bit too long. I'm not convinced that its good for the dog or the fox. The beddy/ irish debate.....thats a hard one.......I think the Irish terrier edges it. They produce racier looking lurchers, slightly quicker, just as hardy and quite a lot gamier. I've had both. I know which I prefer. I wasnt having a go at anyones choice of dog and if they all do what you want of them thats all that matters..... Am gonna take cover again...!!! dont take cover , come out undercover with me , ill show you whippets working that i sincerely hope that would change your mind, ill not get into the usual whippet rows , all i will say is contact a ny one of us with true working whipopets and see for yourself mally`s vixen is a bitch from show x working lines , and she is testiment that with the right owner and upbringing these little speed machines are capable of a lot more than people care to believe! i also shock horror show mine!!! yes i prance round like a twat , mine are qualified crufts although i wont be going , however i remain in the ring to prove that not only are the breed beautiful but also still capable of doing the job in the field to a very high standard mine as many of my friends whippets do all work cover, get the odd scrapes and nicks but nothing superglue and a nights rest doesnt solve, mine are not shivering fools although they sleep in heated kennels Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel. As mentioned they are very inteligent for a pure sighthound and they have a very good nose, i wouldn't be without mine when i'm ferreting, they mark 100% and there more than capable of catching a bolting rabbit within feet of the rabbit warren.. Good to hear from someone who works a whippet, mate used to have one a few years back but it didn't fare well in the winter lamping could not cope with 30-40 runs in wet windy nights, is this normal or are yours more robust. I've never had a problem with a dog not coping with cold weather, half the problem is folk taking unfit dogs out. Mine are out ferreting in sub zero tempretures and don't sit there like shivering wrecks like some folk believe whippets do. At the end of the day rabbits and rats are the only legal quarry we can take with dogs now and on the land i work the whippet is my choice of dog they do everything i ask of them and more.... 10 rabbits from 12 runs all took in an hour Quote Link to post
milliken 791 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 ive read some rubbish here my kc whippet will take rabbits with the best of them and would not look out of place running with any other lurcher Quote Link to post
Guest Taffybull Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) some nice dogs on here Edited January 13, 2009 by Taffybull Quote Link to post
milliken 791 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 hares on the lamp Quote Link to post
milliken 791 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 hares in the day Quote Link to post
milliken 791 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 (edited) and a few lamped bunnys but then again dont be silly a whippet cant take hare fox or a decent bag of rabbits its aswell my mates are good drivers or i would never get to take any pics robert Edited January 13, 2009 by milliken Quote Link to post
doxhope 2 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Im reallyjust interested in what all you guys n gals run pure whippets on? Im looking into getting one (pure bred) and im interested to see what I could possibly put it on.Would like to see some pics if possible Cheers Jordan RABBITS Quote Link to post
mackay 3,312 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel. As mentioned they are very inteligent for a pure sighthound and they have a very good nose, i wouldn't be without mine when i'm ferreting, they mark 100% and there more than capable of catching a bolting rabbit within feet of the rabbit warren.. A man that works whippets well and has experince, this is what we want to hear , not someone talking crap and has never owned or worked a whippet. Frank. So if you've never owned or worked a whippet you can't have an opinion?. I've never owned one, but I've seen a few over the years and if the ones I've seen are typical of the breed then I never will own one. Furdy I thought that was quite an honest and accurate post regarding whippets. Quote Link to post
martin 332 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule. Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out. Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs. I LIKE YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT KC REG DOGS HOW HAVE YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION MY WHIPPET IS KC AND SHIT HOT ON RABBITS ALL MIKE BROWNS DOGS ARE KC AND THEY ARE TOP WORKING WHIPPETS I have a KC whippet and she is shit hot as well(Mike Browns)and she has retrieved Roe!! You can't make such a blanket statement as you have done mate.If you had said 'Show Type' I might of gone along with that,but,not all KC,after all it is just a piece of paper.....................martin. Quote Link to post
mackay 3,312 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 So if you've never owned or worked a whippet you can't have an opinion?.I've never owned one, but I've seen a few over the years and if the ones I've seen are typical of the breed then I never will own one. Furdy I thought that was quite an honest and accurate post regarding whippets. What lines did you see work Mackay? Don't have a clue what lines they were mate, just wasn't taken on with them, that said I've maybe just been unlucky. Quote Link to post
billy badger 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 A mate of mine has got one and his goes into anything Quote Link to post
Guest hpool_hunter Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 3/4 breds to me , are unstoppable , 18'' 3/4 whip 1/4 beddy bitch , ran her heart heart and was just as good as any lurcher on most game , most of the time getting there 1st . i have no experiance in pure whippets , but also a mate had 3/4 whip 1/4 collie and he was the same , a fiery little thing . all best HH Quote Link to post
BLUCHER 1 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 Had beddy crosses, pure whippets, now got a second cross saluki whippet. Would say the beddy was the best marker, nose like a bloodhound, hard as nails. Pure whippet was spot on on rabbits and could take hare. My saluki cross is great on daytime rabbits, great ferreting dogs all of them, and brill on the lamp. As for shivery little things what bollox, its probably nervous tension that makes them quiver, there always keyed up to do whats asked of them, and will give 110% in the field. Yeah im a great fan of these little warriors, dont knock them if youve never owned one. Quote Link to post
Taffy08 0 Posted February 13, 2009 Report Share Posted February 13, 2009 mate i have a whippet got the smallest amount ov beddy in her, shes 9 now and retiered my first ever dog, shes only 22 an half 2 tts, ive had evry thing from rats, sqwirrels, rabbits, fox pre ban, and even a couple ov big ears, she puts 110% in 2 aney thing shell even av a go a bushing with the terriers, 1 ov the best dogs ive ever had mate great fun.... id put a pic up bur im not sure how 2 do it Quote Link to post
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