JordKil 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Im reallyjust interested in what all you guys n gals run pure whippets on? Im looking into getting one (pure bred) and im interested to see what I could possibly put it on. Would like to see some pics if possible Cheers Jordan Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 rabbits, possums, foxes, hares and cats . oh you said pure didnt you :glare: Quote Link to post
victor 10 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 heard of them taking loadsa stuff mate from rats to roe, i havent ever worked with one and havent liked the temprement of the ones i have seen good workers but a little stand offish in my opinion, if you get one with some terrier blood in it like a beddy cross, it will have a stronger bite and better stamina, just my opinion, and it will probs annoy plenty of people who work pure breds but when i see one that i like i will change my views, until then im all for the whippet cross. yeah id go for a cross, not just to make heavyer or taller but to change a few small things. but no offence to pure owners i just think in time you may want something more in it Quote Link to post
JordKil 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I did think that a cross would benfit better in a way and Im alot more used to crossbreeds anyway. The problem I have with getting something like a beddy cross is that I cant find anyone in my area of travel etc that breeds them but I found a KC whippet breeder but that probably wouldnt be as strong a worker Cheers Jordan Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule. Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out. Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs. Quote Link to post
bird 9,861 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule. Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out. Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs. The Irish Terrier sounds a good x to a grey, the Irish have a good coat, they are leggy+fast, and hard little feckers. I wonder why they are not used more, for lurcher work.?? Quote Link to post
Chunk 3 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. Next point, rabbits. Thats it, rabbits. Cant run them on anything else, they just aint big enough. All theoretical of course and based on pre ban experience and the vain hope that the next government will change the law back again. Whippet crosses struggle on hares, even on the lamp. You may pick up the odd lucky run but it wont be on a regular basis. Foxes, same again, too small. And I 've seen whippet crosses on foxes, game little dogs that they are will have a go but I dont think its fair. Its more akin to dog fighting, a drawn out affair that isnt good for the image of hunting, the welfare of the dog or your pocket when you have to pay to have the dog put back together at the local vets. Yes, I know someone is going to say they have one, or have seen one that will do all of the above and more, and I'm sure they are around but are the exception rather than the rule. Next point, why do you want a whippet cross anyway. That dont hold any advantage over a greyhound cross. I know they are smaller but why do you need a dog so small. They may be slightly quicker from the off, but not much. They may be more agile, but again, not by much, and an experienced lurcher doesn't follow the every turn or jink of a rabbit anyway. They seem to anticipate when and where to strike without the need to run around in ever decreasing circles. A bigger dog can stand a higher work rate for longer too because they're not going everywhere flat out. Now for the cross itself......If you're considering the whippet cross I'd assume rabbits are the quarry. Collie cross will be fine, as will a bedlington cross. I really rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is how much experience you can give the dog and how you bring it on. Maybe an emotive thing to say but there are more bad owners than bad dogs. I LIKE YOUR FIRST COMMENT ABOUT KC REG DOGS HOW HAVE YOU COME TO THIS CONCLUSION MY WHIPPET IS KC AND SHIT HOT ON RABBITS ALL MIKE BROWNS DOGS ARE KC AND THEY ARE TOP WORKING WHIPPETS Quote Link to post
furdy 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Maybe its just the ones I've seen. They seem to be all neck and legs and dont appear to have any fire about them. I know there are exceptions though. Look at the differences between show dogs and working dogs. I may have been just a bit too broad with that statement, but think to be certain you need to look toward proven working lines. Very emotive subject isnt it. Quote Link to post
PAUL73 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) A few interesting points raised. To start with, I wouldn't entertain anything that has a KC registration, these are not proper working dogs, but animals bred to physical type, they add nothing to a working dog apart from good looks. I would say that applies across the board. I have had someone bring out a show type whippet and it looked odd and was useless. Would rather go hunting with a stuffed toy, at least you could throw it at the rabbits. rate irish terrier crosses over beddies. What matters is] your talking shit mate Edited January 12, 2009 by PAUL73 Quote Link to post
BLUCHER 1 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I run a second cross saluki whippet, and shes dynamite on rabbits, 21 inch and 30lbs. As for being too small to take hares just about any whippet in the 30lb range is capable. Can never understand why people knock them as in my opinion they are probably the most intelligent sighthound, provided they are off proven working lines. Quote Link to post
fenman1# 724 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 you cant beat a good whippet, got hearts like lions best dog iv seen for killing rabbits on the lamp was a k.c reg whippet and if you give him short slips he would kill hares all day long and wouldnt turn his nose on a fox either id have a k.c whippet any day of the week Quote Link to post
luke 2 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 get a copy of the english whippet by ted walsh a true expert on the breed and draw your own conclusions Quote Link to post
samba 534 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 a good keen whippet will have a go at most things you slip them on and most will die trying can have alot of fun wi a whippet Quote Link to post
mally 832 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel. As mentioned they are very inteligent for a pure sighthound and they have a very good nose, i wouldn't be without mine when i'm ferreting, they mark 100% and there more than capable of catching a bolting rabbit within feet of the rabbit warren.. Quote Link to post
BLUCHER 1 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I work Kc registered whippets and i wouldn't work anything else on rabbits. I work mine with the ferrets and on the lamp. I'd be interested to see if a bedlington x whippet would run any better than my fawn whippet on the lamp on the rabbits, if there's any first x beddy whippet owners out there willing to go out. I'm more than willing to travel. As mentioned they are very inteligent for a pure sighthound and they have a very good nose, i wouldn't be without mine when i'm ferreting, they mark 100% and there more than capable of catching a bolting rabbit within feet of the rabbit warren.. A man that works whippets well and has experince, this is what we want to hear , not someone talking crap and has never owned or worked a whippet. COULD NOT AGREE MORE FRANK Quote Link to post
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