dixon819 0 Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 hi, in need of abit of help with my 9 month pup. the problem is the recall, when the bitch is calm she comes to the recall. but like when me and my mate were out ferreting 2day, when a rabbit bolt's she odviously chased but the rabbit went down a hole in another bury. she was searching for it an wouldnt come back she could hear me but was just being ignorant. she knows what the recall is so i gave a slap, i dont like hitting my dog and it makes me feel bad but if i dont then she is never going to listen and she gets abit funny with me when i do which i know isnt helping the situation but i just dont know how else to get it through to her. can anybody suggest anything, its when she gets excited and hyper i just dont know how to encourage her to come back to me when in this situation. its my first one and just want to meet a good standard of obediance. cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
victor 10 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 learn to whistel wioth your hands, i do it if my dog runs off like gets out while we are away and he comes back in a second or keep oin workin on it, maby she is still in puppy mode a mates dog is like that and it is annoying and isnt coming lamping untill it is sorted out, good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brock1 2 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 hi,in need of abit of help with my 9 month pup. the problem is the recall, when the bitch is calm she comes to the recall. but like when me and my mate were out ferreting 2day, when a rabbit bolt's she odviously chased but the rabbit went down a hole in another bury. she was searching for it an wouldnt come back she could hear me but was just being ignorant. she knows what the recall is so i gave a slap, i dont like hitting my dog and it makes me feel bad but if i dont then she is never going to listen and she gets abit funny with me when i do which i know isnt helping the situation but i just dont know how else to get it through to her. can anybody suggest anything, its when she gets excited and hyper i just dont know how to encourage her to come back to me when in this situation. its my first one and just want to meet a good standard of obediance. cheers the dogs just getting excited havent you ever been doing something & some ones shouted you & you never heard them becouse your to bussy doing something to notice. the thing to do is regain the dog atention buy flinging something near it of something that whont heart it at it to get its atention onto some thing else. then when its not fixated on the rabbit call it back give it a prase not a slap becouse that will only make it worse. then put it on a lead & dont give it anymore rabbits that day. after a while your dog will learn that it not going to get another run becouse it stays around a set it just chased a rabbit in. & your dog whont think shit the rabbit gone to ground i am going to get a slap when my owner gets me witch is what your teaching by slaping it. get your dog exciter about something esle & try not to lose your temper some time dog will try your patince. dont forget it still a pup & has years to catch hundreds of rabbits it doesnt need to catch them all when its a pup it need more learning than catching. good luke with your pup mate. ps it all about pationce with pups & with some you need laods. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tramp1 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 hi,in need of abit of help with my 9 month pup. the problem is the recall, when the bitch is calm she comes to the recall. but like when me and my mate were out ferreting 2day, when a rabbit bolt's she odviously chased but the rabbit went down a hole in another bury. she was searching for it an wouldnt come back she could hear me but was just being ignorant. she knows what the recall is so i gave a slap, i dont like hitting my dog and it makes me feel bad but if i dont then she is never going to listen and she gets abit funny with me when i do which i know isnt helping the situation but i just dont know how else to get it through to her. can anybody suggest anything, its when she gets excited and hyper i just dont know how to encourage her to come back to me when in this situation. its my first one and just want to meet a good standard of obediance. cheers try take in ur pup out with an experienced dog to show it the ropes at the end off the day it is only 9 months old. ive got a pup at 7 months hes learning ever day off other dogs a take him out with.another thing never slap a pup when it comes back mate or it will never come back to ye. all the best with it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The dog is 9months old, so get the recall spot on at the local park.........long before you take it hunting. Lurchers do not react well to a slap........its allmost a waste of time with em, all you will do is drive yourself crazy. Leave it at home for your hunting trips before you do any lasting damage to the dogs training, then next season get it out on the lamp........it will soon get the idea that everytime you call it back, you will be showing it some more game to run. Unless you have got its recall spot on in non hunting situations, you can hardly blame the dog.......its at a bad age anyway for cocking a deaf un. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
labsnlurchers 39 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Skycat posted the best advice imo on other topic about your pup, copied and pasted it here for you. The best thing to do is just go and fetch the pup back: don't hit it or say anything. Keep her close to you, holding her if need be by the collar. Whilst I don't like making a ferreting dog keep still (leads to bordeom and resentment) you do need to show her that the best rewards happen if she stays near you, the ferrets and the burrows where the ferrets are working. Try and only work warrens which are shallow (so she can hear what is going on below ground), and in calm (not windy) condtitions or where there is little or no distracting noise, and where you KNOW there are definitely rabbits. The best thing to do is only put a ferret to ground if the pup shows an interest in the holes. That way you are rewarding her mark with a bolted rabbit (hopefully!) Try also calling her with a note of urgency in your voice: I give a hiss when I'm telling the dog to get to me quickly, but you musn't abuse this trick. You need to make her understand (as above) that the best things happen (rabbits!) when she is near you and the ferrets. Don't expect her to understand everything at once, and do understand that it is a good and natural reaction on the pup's part to want to stay where she ran the rabbit to ground: that is the beginning of marking. What I would have done in that situation is have put a ferret to ground where the rabbit went in, thus reinforcing the dog's marking. If it didn't bolt again and you had to dig for it that wouldn't have mattered: what is important is the fact that you end up with a rabbit. Hope this helps. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
brock1 2 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Skycat posted the best advice imo on other topic about your pup, copied and pasted it here for you. The best thing to do is just go and fetch the pup back: don't hit it or say anything. Keep her close to you, holding her if need be by the collar. Whilst I don't like making a ferreting dog keep still (leads to bordeom and resentment) you do need to show her that the best rewards happen if she stays near you, the ferrets and the burrows where the ferrets are working. Try and only work warrens which are shallow (so she can hear what is going on below ground), and in calm (not windy) condtitions or where there is little or no distracting noise, and where you KNOW there are definitely rabbits. The best thing to do is only put a ferret to ground if the pup shows an interest in the holes. That way you are rewarding her mark with a bolted rabbit (hopefully!) Try also calling her with a note of urgency in your voice: I give a hiss when I'm telling the dog to get to me quickly, but you musn't abuse this trick. You need to make her understand (as above) that the best things happen (rabbits!) when she is near you and the ferrets. Don't expect her to understand everything at once, and do understand that it is a good and natural reaction on the pup's part to want to stay where she ran the rabbit to ground: that is the beginning of marking. What I would have done in that situation is have put a ferret to ground where the rabbit went in, thus reinforcing the dog's marking. If it didn't bolt again and you had to dig for it that wouldn't have mattered: what is important is the fact that you end up with a rabbit. Hope this helps. sound advice that & i didnt hear slap your dog once witch is the golden rule with any recall even a slow bad one. prase never punish Edited January 12, 2009 by brock1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sako.243 1 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 The dog is 9months old, so get the recall spot on at the local park.........long before you take it hunting. Lurchers do not react well to a slap........its allmost a waste of time with em, all you will do is drive yourself crazy. Leave it at home for your hunting trips before you do any lasting damage to the dogs training, then next season get it out on the lamp........it will soon get the idea that everytime you call it back, you will be showing it some more game to run. Unless you have got its recall spot on in non hunting situations, you can hardly blame the dog.......its at a bad age anyway for cocking a deaf un. Spot on mate, I would say the exact same...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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