Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 "My Law", you really have got the wrong end of the stick here, Mal is 100% i would stick up for some one i knew as well but i would soon forget that person if he started to show is true colours by trying to give info on any one whether he was right or wrong .but that is me perhaps you are different. Nope, I just know which side of the fence I'm on then please explain why he has done the same thing 2 times to me . and i dont know him from adam . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 "My Law", you really have got the wrong end of the stick here, Mal is 100% i would stick up for some one i knew as well but i would soon forget that person if he started to show is true colours by trying to give info on any one whether he was right or wrong .but that is me perhaps you are different. Nope, I just know which side of the fence I'm on then please explain why he has done the same thing 2 times to me . and i dont know him from adam . I ain't got no explaining to do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 "My Law", you really have got the wrong end of the stick here, Mal is 100% i would stick up for some one i knew as well but i would soon forget that person if he started to show is true colours by trying to give info on any one whether he was right or wrong .but that is me perhaps you are different. Nope, I just know which side of the fence I'm on then please explain why he has done the same thing 2 times to me . and i dont know him from adam . I ain't got no explaining to do in that case i only got your word on it .[not enough for me ]no disrespect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mad al 146 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 "My Law", you really have got the wrong end of the stick here, Mal is 100% i would stick up for some one i knew as well but i would soon forget that person if he started to show is true colours by trying to give info on any one whether he was right or wrong .but that is me perhaps you are different. Nope, I just know which side of the fence I'm on then please explain why he has done the same thing 2 times to me . and i dont know him from adam . I ain't got no explaining to do in that case i only got your word on it .[not enough for me ]no disrespect. My Law, I just repeat what I have said, Mal is 100% and I also respect that this is enough for you and I have dealt with it May I suggest you do the same and get to bed or feck off out lampin or have another bevvie or..............................laters Quote Link to post Share on other sites
biffo 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 each to their own, personally i havnt had the chance to take a fox by any method. but i would like to shoot one. one day some kind person will offer me the chance and be rewarded with a bottle of whiskey *hint hint* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 It all has its place.........I have beat enough days to see the real killers and the blokes that cant hit shite(beaters allways want a team of killers ).........I have seen and owned dogs that would just educate game,bit of a tussel and the game runs free, I have taken shots and wounded quarry.........it happens. Not all shooters are good shots, not all dogs are any good, a wire will ocasionally be set incorrectly........so what. It all has its place. wilf im just pointing out that there is to many guns given to people that dont know how to use them ,and it looks like it will continue to be the case in the future because since they band most hunting with dogs they are geting more request for a licence to own a gun ,and they keep giving them out willy nilly as long as you come up to a certain standard ,and being able to shoot one is not on the list of standards [fact ],ATB I totally agree with you and understood what you were trying to say before ML Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 What i dont like is a certain aspect of shooting people tend to look down on people who work lurchers and think there on the higher horse,,I had to put up with a few lads at college like that,,Saying how much lurchers where cackers dogs and how there labs can kill foxes in seconds and how game there border terriers are when they get a fox cub in a cage withit. What really annoys me around here,,Is that farmers and gamekeepers let beagles and foxhounds go on there land,,But get all hiped up when they see you running a few hares with a lurcher. Unfortunatly I think you are right, there is some anymosity between certain sides of our sports, not that I think that is right. This thread shows that as do many post on this forum where dogmen are atacking keepers/shooters (one a few days ago about f###ing keepers). "What really annoys me around here,,Is that farmers and gamekeepers let beagles and foxhounds go on there land,,But get all hiped up when they see you running a few hares with a lurcher." There is an infurance that these organised hunts you mention will have permission (being organised hunts et al) to be doing what they are; in the above example, do you? That is often why keepers and farmers get "hiped up", resulting in bad blood and bad feelings. Horses for corses, each to their own and with permission in the right situation there is a opportunity for all. Maybe thats just why the thread was started after all; to create discord, and it seems to have worked. Light the toutch paper and stand back? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I have 3500 acres of permission on my door step........I can go and shoot pigeons, I can ferret, if I had terriers I could even do the terrier work...........but I can only go alone to this estate and I cant even take my lurcher pup beating......WHY? Because dicks keep smashing the gates off, driving the fields and fecking up the crops and leaving stuff laying dead.........so its no lurchers and no strangers. They are all shooting men on this place........any wonder they have a low opinion of dog lads? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Rod&dog Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 What i dont like is a certain aspect of shooting people tend to look down on people who work lurchers and think there on the higher horse,,I had to put up with a few lads at college like that,,Saying how much lurchers where cackers dogs and how there labs can kill foxes in seconds and how game there border terriers are when they get a fox cub in a cage withit. What really annoys me around here,,Is that farmers and gamekeepers let beagles and foxhounds go on there land,,But get all hiped up when they see you running a few hares with a lurcher. Unfortunatly I think you are right, there is some anymosity between certain sides of our sports, not that I think that is right. This thread shows that as do many post on this forum where dogmen are atacking keepers/shooters (one a few days ago about f###ing keepers). "What really annoys me around here,,Is that farmers and gamekeepers let beagles and foxhounds go on there land,,But get all hiped up when they see you running a few hares with a lurcher." There is an infurance that these organised hunts you mention will have permission (being organised hunts et al) to be doing what they are; in the above example, do you? That is often why keepers and farmers get "hiped up", resulting in bad blood and bad feelings. Horses for corses, each to their own and with permission in the right situation there is a opportunity for all. Maybe thats just why the thread was started after all; to create discord, and it seems to have worked. Light the toutch paper and stand back? Problem is the organised poach sometimes,,Many a times have i seen hounds carry on to hunt a fox when it goes on to land there not aloud to hunt over or delibretly hunting through land they no there not welcome,,Dont get me wrong im not anti hounds at all,,Just dont like the way its all willy nilly for them and where left in the cold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Problem is the organised poach sometimes,,Many a times have i seen hounds carry on to hunt a fox when it goes on to land there not aloud to hunt over or delibretly hunting through land they no there not welcome,,Dont get me wrong im not anti hounds at all,,Just dont like the way its all willy nilly for them and where left in the cold. I agree there have been publicised cases in the past where hunts have followed onto land where they have no permission; but these instances are rare. The dogmen will always battle because many refuse to seek permission (where the hunts for the large part have). If they do ask and get turned down, the attitude seems to be one of "well f#ck ya, I'll poach anyway", its this coupled with the few mindless idiots (and they exist in all walks of life, I'm not saying dogmen only) who trash fences, gates, land etc or just generally conduct their "sport" without respect for the other who may own or work the land. And its them who ruin it for everyone else. We all have to seek permission, some do not; they are invairably the owners or their employees/leaseholders, and they are perfectly within their rights to say no to anyone asking for sport. Its hard but that has to be respected. Whatever goes on on the land is their investment and their concern. We are off topic now, but I guess its how the thread has evolved! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) I dont think we are off topic at all.......the point of the thread was to try and start a war of words between Shooters and dog lads. The thing is, there is no argument........there are wank shots and wank dog lads.........easy as that Edited January 10, 2009 by WILF Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I dont think we are off topic at all.......the point of the thread was to try and start a war of words between Shooters and dog lads.The thing is, there is no argument........there are wank shots and wank dog lads.........easy as that You are right we all all that, but you forgot to add that we all f#ckin hate each other too...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donk 12 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I dont hate no one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) This is my last post on this thread, call me what you like MY LAW or whatever you're called, but I'm no fecking grass, if you think that I am you should check the definition of the word. Who have I grassed to, and about what? I think maybe I just touched a nerve, and your reaction is to to try to slander me and get back at me.... It could have gone one of two ways, it was either GRASS! or ANTI! Could have gone either way.... no chance of that im prity good at spoting the difference. : :re read your post sounds like you got a short memory as well ,talk about touching a nerve i wonder what i have done by calling you a GRASS Edited January 10, 2009 by MY LAW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Bit of a contradiction there fellah really when you get down to it the only animal that kills just for the hell of it is MAN.....drive along any road next to a shoot and you'll see more carnage caused by cars than by foxes Are you really trying to tell us that foxes only kill for food?! That is possably the most naive suggestion I have heard in a long time if you are. Nope never said that did I? engage brain before fingers mate. I'm not trying to tell you anything just stating a fact....the only animal that kills for pleasure is man. But your words say that the only animal to kill for the hell of it (ie not just for food) is man. You said that, above. That implies, in fact it is a statement to the efect that foxes thus only kill for food; because they are not man, and only man kills for fun. i.e indescriminatly, not just for food. Foxes do kill just for the hell of it, its a proven historcal fact; therfore man is not the only animal that does it. On one hand you are saying "nope never said that", on the other you say you are just "stating fact". Fact as anyone who keeps poultry, game birds or stock sheep know is that foxes do kill indescriminently, just for the hell of it, as well as for food. Thus they are pests and need controling in the most efective, clean and safe method for the given area and pest problem, which I believe is the topic of the thread. so foxes dont kill for food then?...I spose they eat at macdonalds then get together and decide to go beat up some pheasants Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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