undisputed 1,664 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 A lot of shooters I know couldn't hit a coo in the arse with a banjo.....yes theres a lot of skill involved in shooting but like any sport there's eejits with guns who you wouldn't trust with a water pistol.....same with dogs I might add. If only all shooters could kill from long range. The guns only as good as the person handling it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 only efective if the gun is in the right hands ,most of the time it is not .[only staiting a fact ,that is alowed to continue] Could you give me the stats and facts please, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just genuinely interested simple just take some one out that has a gun but dont get out on a regular basis [you will have thousands to choise from ]and then you will find i am right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Sporting Agent 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Bit of a contradiction there fellah really when you get down to it the only animal that kills just for the hell of it is MAN.....drive along any road next to a shoot and you'll see more carnage caused by cars than by foxes Are you really trying to tell us that foxes only kill for food?! That is possably the most naive suggestion I have heard in a long time if you are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 only efective if the gun is in the right hands ,most of the time it is not .[only staiting a fact ,that is alowed to continue] Could you give me the stats and facts please, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just genuinely interested simple just take some one out that has a gun but dont get out on a regular basis [you will have thousands to choise from ]and then you will find i am right. If they are irregular shooters they cant be "most of the time" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 only efective if the gun is in the right hands ,most of the time it is not .[only staiting a fact ,that is alowed to continue] Could you give me the stats and facts please, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just genuinely interested simple just take some one out that has a gun but dont get out on a regular basis [you will have thousands to choise from ]and then you will find i am right. If they are irregular shooters they cant be "most of the time" am i the only one that looks at the real world ,for every one that knows how to shoot and use a gun proper that goes out on a week end there will be a lot more that just do it on the odd ocasion out on the same day ,so more animals a injured by the odd day out person than the one that goes out regular. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 only efective if the gun is in the right hands ,most of the time it is not .[only staiting a fact ,that is alowed to continue] Could you give me the stats and facts please, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just genuinely interested simple just take some one out that has a gun but dont get out on a regular basis [you will have thousands to choise from ]and then you will find i am right. If they are irregular shooters they cant be "most of the time" am i the only one that looks at the real world ,for every one that knows how to shoot and use a gun proper that goes out on a week end there will be a lot more that just do it on the odd ocasion out on the same day ,so more animals a injured by the odd day out person than the one that goes out regular. Two Words, Prove It. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
donk 12 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 well its just horses for courses innit??? Me?? i like to get up close and personal when im doing my killing I didn't know your name was Stalone im more of your Mr Bean than stallone when it comes to physique Seriously though,im not arsed whether theyre shot or dogged,snaring catches more than either method and requires a lot of input. Its a case of each to their own. I must admit i have a hell of a lot of respect for the fox. They are an amazing creature,survival instincts are incredible,adaptability to the environment,the speed of them,the courage they show. There were times i actually admired the way a fox out witted my dogs and made its escape,clever fellas sometimes. Im not getting drawn into the 'what method' argument,all methods have their uses,pros and cons. Thats why there are so many methods,because one method wont work all the time,in every situation. Ive seen foxes shot and dogged (pre-ban) ive also snared them myself. I just enjoy getting out and doing a bit,christ knows its hard to find something to do these days without having to stick by all the laws and regulations,and then discussing the morality of a situation or whether t could of been done better? Just get out and do what you's do,and enjoy it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Bit of a contradiction there fellah really when you get down to it the only animal that kills just for the hell of it is MAN.....drive along any road next to a shoot and you'll see more carnage caused by cars than by foxes Are you really trying to tell us that foxes only kill for food?! That is possably the most naive suggestion I have heard in a long time if you are. Nope never said that did I? engage brain before fingers mate. I'm not trying to tell you anything just stating a fact....the only animal that kills for pleasure is man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) only efective if the gun is in the right hands ,most of the time it is not .[only staiting a fact ,that is alowed to continue] Could you give me the stats and facts please, I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just genuinely interested simple just take some one out that has a gun but dont get out on a regular basis [you will have thousands to choise from ]and then you will find i am right. If they are irregular shooters they cant be "most of the time" am i the only one that looks at the real world ,for every one that knows how to shoot and use a gun proper that goes out on a week end there will be a lot more that just do it on the odd ocasion out on the same day ,so more animals a injured by the odd day out person than the one that goes out regular. Two Words, Prove It. looks like i just did ,with your reply ,and you must be one of the irregular shooters i was on about .no wonder you are in a protective mode. Edited January 9, 2009 by MY LAW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hiho 5 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 A lot of shooters I know couldn't hit a coo in the arse with a banjo.....yes theres a lot of skill involved in shooting but like any sport there's eejits with guns who you wouldn't trust with a water pistol.....same with dogs I might add. If only all shooters could kill from long range. The guns only as good as the person handling it. Most of the skill isnt from killing from a long range . Lets say youv zeroed your scope at 50 yards most of the skill is getting into your kill range then the rest of it is being able to hold the gun steady. it takes years of practice before any one can shoot and get good groups at 200+yards Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 looks like i just did ,with your reply ,and you must be one of the irregular shooters i was on about .no wonder you are in a protective mode. I knew that was going to be the reply, I didn't expect a case to be backed up by any sort of proof. Such is the internet. I know my capabilities, I know my rifles, I know the limits to which I conduct my pest control as a Gamekeeper. SS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
undisputed 1,664 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 (edited) A lot of shooters I know couldn't hit a coo in the arse with a banjo.....yes theres a lot of skill involved in shooting but like any sport there's eejits with guns who you wouldn't trust with a water pistol.....same with dogs I might add. If only all shooters could kill from long range. The guns only as good as the person handling it. Most of the skill isnt from killing from a long range . Lets say youv zeroed your scope at 50 yards most of the skill is getting into your kill range then the rest of it is being able to hold the gun steady. it takes years of practice before any one can shoot and get good groups at 200+yards I'm sure it does mate and I'm not criticising anyone who shoots correctly sadly theres always a few in any sport that let everyone down with their antics. Edited January 9, 2009 by undisputed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 looks like i just did ,with your reply ,and you must be one of the irregular shooters i was on about .no wonder you are in a protective mode. I knew that was going to be the reply, I didn't expect a case to be backed up by any sort of proof. Such is the internet. I know my capabilities, I know my rifles, I know the limits to which I conduct my pest control as a Gamekeeper. SS how many lots of land do you shoot on . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hiho 5 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 A lot of shooters I know couldn't hit a coo in the arse with a banjo.....yes theres a lot of skill involved in shooting but like any sport there's eejits with guns who you wouldn't trust with a water pistol.....same with dogs I might add. If only all shooters could kill from long range. The guns only as good as the person handling it. Most of the skill isnt from killing from a long range . Lets say youv zeroed your scope at 50 yards most of the skill is getting into your kill range then the rest of it is being able to hold the gun steady. it takes years of practice before any one can shoot and get good groups at 200+yards I'm sure it does mate and I'm not criticising anyone who shoots correctly sadly theres always a few in any sport that let everyone down with their antics. I no what you mean iv seen some stupid people in my time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SportingShooter 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 looks like i just did ,with your reply ,and you must be one of the irregular shooters i was on about .no wonder you are in a protective mode. I knew that was going to be the reply, I didn't expect a case to be backed up by any sort of proof. Such is the internet. I know my capabilities, I know my rifles, I know the limits to which I conduct my pest control as a Gamekeeper. SS how many lots of land do you shoot on . Acres or Farms? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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