Minshaw blood diluted!

[Jacob27 3]

Well its christmas again and i suppose in my age of life im only happy again to see another one. My grandson came over on christmas eve, as usual to bring present and everything else that goes with this time of year. I asked him how the hunting was going?, When he started to tell me about his mate who is trying to save 600 pound for a minshaw dog, Off a lad who is getting out of the game. Now when he mentioned this i couldnt help myself burst out laughing, saying surely he is not fork out that type of money for a dog that lived twenty years ago. Now let me tell you were i stand on this, If anybody can get this type of dog, the best of luck but its stuck in my craw when a young lad of 16 or 17 years old is trying to save every penny to acquire. I feel they are being mislead. I do not hunt these's day, but when i did myself and victor minshaw did hunt together for a long time and his old dog blue was with us for most of that time. The dog itself was a good catching dog and he worked him every oppertunity he could get, with victor the only thing that mattered with victor was, pounds, shillings, and pences, the man really had no source of income, this is why the big bags of rabbits were looked for, money as simple as that. I was running a bitch at the time, of similar type, and when myself and victor talked of her he did believe it would be a good move to put blue over her, but with victor there is always a hidden agenda''money''. I was of the opion at the time that he would not charge me for the service considering i drove everywhere at night and did not take any money off him for petrol. Now large bags of rabbits where quiet common in the 's. I believe there were more rabbits about and lamping was starting to kick off, about that time I heard of an old guy in yorkshire that was at the same thing as us, and he had a decent dog capable of a very good bag of rabbits. I narrowed him down and payed a visit to his small council cottage, at the time of calling his wife said he is in bed but will be up in a couple of hours, i said i will call back later. So with a few hours to kill i payed a visit to a friend who was in the service with me. I returned that evening and he was up and having his tea before he went out rabbiting. I was there for the possible breeding of his dog, mainly because victor pissed me off for wanting money, and i was to stuburn to give it to him. I could have been wrong but i felt not so this is why i was determined to find another dog for stud. So victor did not have me over a barrel so to speak, foolish i know but thats how i felt at that time, Oh the joys of being young. Anyway, the old guy had two dogs and one bitch, mother father and son, they were saturated in collie blood nearly to the point of full collie, but when i seen the bag of rabbits from the previous night, i knew i had the right dog, 70plus. The old guy has no motor only a push bike with a two wheeled trailor on pram wheels mounted behind the bike. He told me he would let the dog ride in the trailor until he got to his hunting ground 8 milies away, but the dog had to run back behind the bike because he did not want the rabbits to be squashed by the weight of the dog on top of them. Some feat.Now i may have given the game away by mentoning his bike and trailor and yorkshire area, so if anybody out there knows who im talking about please dont mention his name because i do not know if he is still alive and Would not like to upset any of his family.Anyway my point in writing this is to tell that all this happened twenty years ago, minshaw blue must be well diluted by now. These modern day dogs are not the same, believe me. I do not believe they even look the same, but are more houndy type. I have not seen victor for well over 10 years now, last time we meet we had a good yap about the old dogs. I will leave you with this, young men read this a few times before you part with your money.

 

Good sport to all!

Jacob

[kaney 9]

Good read that

[chartpolski 24,476]

Read thru' this a couple of times, and still can't make head nor tail of it !!

[TOMO 26,697]

i thought it was a good read, and would like to hear more of jacobs storys

[jimb 30]

A good honest post Jacob

We await Fennwarriors reply

Edited January 8, 2009 by jimb

[skycat 6,173]

Good read: I love to hear tales of the old times.

[Paid 935]

Me too.

 

Jacob, did you get the mating you wanted in yorkshire ?

[Hannah4181 260]

I want Jacob to be my Grandad! Great read.

[Guest SJM]

That was a good read, cheers for sharing your tale with us

Before I passed my driving test I had a mountain bike and one of those "trail a tot" clip on trailers for towing a toddler People who knew what I used it for would laugh and take the piss, but that never bothered me, cos people who didnt know would just go awww look theres someone cycling by with their kid in the trailer when it was full of rabbits, hares and on some occaisions even a roe deer I used that trailer for all sorts, taking my saddle and tack up to the horses field when I wanted to ride, or bringing home the catch from a nights lamping if I walked too far being greedy and couldnt bear the load on the way home, I would drop it off somewhere and then walk home, get the bike and trailer and cycle my ill gotten gains home. Now I have a car it all seems crazy and I can see why folk took the piss, they probably thought I was a right eccentric but I could neither afford a car, nor the expenses of running one. They were fond days to look back on, I was much fitter than I am now, I walked and cycled miles each day, cars can make you lazy

 

I wont comment on the Minshaw side of things save to say that if Im reading correctly and your saying you and Victor hunted together and you drove him everywhere and never took petrol off him, but when you wanted a stud he wanted money, well I think thats bang out of order, mates arent supposed to do that to each other, but perhaps money was much tighter in those days? but still, if money comes before friendship, a lonely life is what you'll have

[Bosun11 537]

Good read Jacob, thanks for sharing

[whin 463]

money shouldnt come in to it with freinds ,but it does , when my mate one the cambridge cup twice he got offerd lots 300 a lineing , i says i like you old dog he say you can use it ,i says ill get you something ,went a holiday over the pond and brought back a book with his dogs in it and his pic , for him couple of knifes , chiles proper ones smoked etc , from new mexico ,thats how it should be ,or a pup or the price of a pup , id someone was short on cash for alineing i would expect apup not money or pick of litter, and then up to me if i keep it selll it , if someone is genuinly nice ill repay the favour ,

[inan 841]

Well its christmas again and i suppose in my age of life im only happy again to see another one. My grandson came over on christmas eve, as usual to bring present and everything else that goes with this time of year. I asked him how the hunting was going?, When he started to tell me about his mate who is trying to save 600 pound for a minshaw dog, Off a lad who is getting out of the game. Now when he mentioned this i couldnt help myself burst out laughing, saying surely he is not fork out that type of money for a dog that lived twenty years ago. Now let me tell you were i stand on this, If anybody can get this type of dog, the best of luck but its stuck in my craw when a young lad of 16 or 17 years old is trying to save every penny to acquire. I feel they are being mislead. I do not hunt these's day, but when i did myself and victor minshaw did hunt together for a long time and his old dog blue was with us for most of that time. The dog itself was a good catching dog and he worked him every oppertunity he could get, with victor the only thing that mattered with victor was, pounds, shillings, and pences, the man really had no source of income, this is why the big bags of rabbits were looked for, money as simple as that. I was running a bitch at the time, of similar type, and when myself and victor talked of her he did believe it would be a good move to put blue over her, but with victor there is always a hidden agenda''money''. I was of the opion at the time that he would not charge me for the service considering i drove everywhere at night and did not take any money off him for petrol. Now large bags of rabbits where quiet common in the 's. I believe there were more rabbits about and lamping was starting to kick off, about that time I heard of an old guy in yorkshire that was at the same thing as us, and he had a decent dog capable of a very good bag of rabbits. I narrowed him down and payed a visit to his small council cottage, at the time of calling his wife said he is in bed but will be up in a couple of hours, i said i will call back later. So with a few hours to kill i payed a visit to a friend who was in the service with me. I returned that evening and he was up and having his tea before he went out rabbiting. I was there for the possible breeding of his dog, mainly because victor pissed me off for wanting money, and i was to stuburn to give it to him. I could have been wrong but i felt not so this is why i was determined to find another dog for stud. So victor did not have me over a barrel so to speak, foolish i know but thats how i felt at that time, Oh the joys of being young. Anyway, the old guy had two dogs and one bitch, mother father and son, they were saturated in collie blood nearly to the point of full collie, but when i seen the bag of rabbits from the previous night, i knew i had the right dog, 70plus. The old guy has no motor only a push bike with a two wheeled trailor on pram wheels mounted behind the bike. He told me he would let the dog ride in the trailor until he got to his hunting ground 8 milies away, but the dog had to run back behind the bike because he did not want the rabbits to be squashed by the weight of the dog on top of them. Some feat.Now i may have given the game away by mentoning his bike and trailor and yorkshire area, so if anybody out there knows who im talking about please dont mention his name because i do not know if he is still alive and Would not like to upset any of his family.Anyway my point in writing this is to tell that all this happened twenty years ago, minshaw blue must be well diluted by now. These modern day dogs are not the same, believe me. I do not believe they even look the same, but are more houndy type. I have not seen victor for well over 10 years now, last time we meet we had a good yap about the old dogs. I will leave you with this, young men read this a few times before you part with your money.

 

Good sport to all!

Jacob

Very interesting post.Ive had lurchers for 40 years ,and judged a few shows,but have never knowingly seen a Minshaw dog ,how would you tell it from others ? They seem to have had a good name among lads but how long ago are we talking ? Is there good stuff unadulterated by other blood still workng? What do they look like?

[wild rover 548]

Well its christmas again and i suppose in my age of life im only happy again to see another one. My grandson came over on christmas eve, as usual to bring present and everything else that goes with this time of year. I asked him how the hunting was going?, When he started to tell me about his mate who is trying to save 600 pound for a minshaw dog, Off a lad who is getting out of the game. Now when he mentioned this i couldnt help myself burst out laughing, saying surely he is not fork out that type of money for a dog that lived twenty years ago. Now let me tell you were i stand on this, If anybody can get this type of dog, the best of luck but its stuck in my craw when a young lad of 16 or 17 years old is trying to save every penny to acquire. I feel they are being mislead. I do not hunt these's day, but when i did myself and victor minshaw did hunt together for a long time and his old dog blue was with us for most of that time. The dog itself was a good catching dog and he worked him every oppertunity he could get, with victor the only thing that mattered with victor was, pounds, shillings, and pences, the man really had no source of income, this is why the big bags of rabbits were looked for, money as simple as that. I was running a bitch at the time, of similar type, and when myself and victor talked of her he did believe it would be a good move to put blue over her, but with victor there is always a hidden agenda''money''. I was of the opion at the time that he would not charge me for the service considering i drove everywhere at night and did not take any money off him for petrol. Now large bags of rabbits where quiet common in the 's. I believe there were more rabbits about and lamping was starting to kick off, about that time I heard of an old guy in yorkshire that was at the same thing as us, and he had a decent dog capable of a very good bag of rabbits. I narrowed him down and payed a visit to his small council cottage, at the time of calling his wife said he is in bed but will be up in a couple of hours, i said i will call back later. So with a few hours to kill i payed a visit to a friend who was in the service with me. I returned that evening and he was up and having his tea before he went out rabbiting. I was there for the possible breeding of his dog, mainly because victor pissed me off for wanting money, and i was to stuburn to give it to him. I could have been wrong but i felt not so this is why i was determined to find another dog for stud. So victor did not have me over a barrel so to speak, foolish i know but thats how i felt at that time, Oh the joys of being young. Anyway, the old guy had two dogs and one bitch, mother father and son, they were saturated in collie blood nearly to the point of full collie, but when i seen the bag of rabbits from the previous night, i knew i had the right dog, 70plus. The old guy has no motor only a push bike with a two wheeled trailor on pram wheels mounted behind the bike. He told me he would let the dog ride in the trailor until he got to his hunting ground 8 milies away, but the dog had to run back behind the bike because he did not want the rabbits to be squashed by the weight of the dog on top of them. Some feat.Now i may have given the game away by mentoning his bike and trailor and yorkshire area, so if anybody out there knows who im talking about please dont mention his name because i do not know if he is still alive and Would not like to upset any of his family.Anyway my point in writing this is to tell that all this happened twenty years ago, minshaw blue must be well diluted by now. These modern day dogs are not the same, believe me. I do not believe they even look the same, but are more houndy type. I have not seen victor for well over 10 years now, last time we meet we had a good yap about the old dogs. I will leave you with this, young men read this a few times before you part with your money.

 

Good sport to all!

Jacob

 

 

Good stuff mate well put, I had a bitch in the 's her mother was local and the father was a son of Blue from Flimby or Maryport, my bitch was nothing like Blue , except she has a slight colouring of Blue, that was then what are the modern descendants like.

[whin 463]

mate if there were that good and believ me i would had had one , cause i aint breed blind not in any way and not stupid , ive traveld the world seeing dogs and been lucky to see good dogs , the genuine dogs who were bred that way are prob like the boys who had them extinct , after three generaitions youve lost the main ingreidents ,youll have some qaulities but not them all done it my self and see the diffrence in some respects but saw the advantadges to ,when you breed litters and start only throwing the odd good pup time to look further a field ,

[chimp 299]

cleared up by a man who used to hunt with the fellow himself . good read