tom1cameron 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I thought it was good as well, would be interesting to push for some more programmes like this but made by us! Perhaps BASC's new media centre can help us. There is a difference between a duck flight at the end of days shooting on fed ponds and duck hunters hunting burns and estuaries for "wild" duck. Though most wildfowlers will happily do both (like me to fill up the freezer). I have to agree to not picking up with the dogs until finished as with those novice guns you have to wait until everyone is finished. Especially on that terrain when a clear shot for a gun lower down the hill could hit someone walking around up the hill! And you dont know how they will react to a spaniel running around. It means a wounded bird might be left for a while but that is the reality of duck pond flighting. I never use a burner on ducks, only on geese, mallards are piss easy to pluck without a burner. That was weird. Overall a good thing for shooters, especially when you take intensive farming into account. But 900,000 wild ducks! How many of them are rear and release!!!?? The Vet on the duck programme, Victoria Roberts, she is our shoot captain. Hasta la canard T Quote Link to post
richard1991 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Gotta agree logic the sanctury bird was spot on with most things she said.The veggie should prob be in a f**king sanctury lmao Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 The most significant aspect that Ive noticed is that the animal rights people who are present,who when questioned, cannot illustrate any valid views on why we should not eat/kill animals. only that it is cruel to do so ? The prominent moment that drew my attention was when the animal rights activist could not come up with one valid explanation on how rabbits could be controlled without "killing them". She just mumbled, and knew in her own heart that she did not have enough knowledge, understanding, or information on how the countryside operates to put up a valid argument. She was almost like a young child, just saying that it was cruel !!! It is this lack of knowledge and understanding, and pure ignorance that is threating shooting and field sports as I am writing this. The programme broadcast many differing reasons on why rabbits have to be controlled, and no valid arguments or suggestions on how to controll rabbits humanely were brought forward, simply because there arent any !!!!!!!!! Each to their own, if someone wants to eat rabbit food all their life I wont ever patrinaise them, or bully them into eating meat !! All I ask is that they respect other peoples differing opinions and realise that sometimes in order for us humans to survive we have to eat animals, and controll species that would eat our foodstocks. I happen to enjoy being out in the countryside testing my skills against nature and yes, I do enjoy it very much as Not only am I having some great sport, but I am doing so in the knowledge that I am having a positive impact on the local environment and countryside in general. I would like to see their faces if a warren suddenly appeared at the bottom of their vegitable garden, But hey, as the blonde girl said, it dosent matter as you can live on vitamins !!!! I'll agree with that dixy .... Carrot munchers, you will never change them... sorry to say but that isnt true as they got a veggie of ten years to eat a grouse. Quote Link to post
Guest dances Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 just watched the shooting of the deer scene again and i cant believe a head keeper allowed an inexperienced rifle woman to shoot a deer on a skyline with no backdrop at all. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 dont know why this program was showed, the fun for us was the daft clowns as we see them. but the antis would have looked at that and got angry about the things they had to stand for. before you jump on this look at the following. why are the anti people on tv setup by the tv to look gorgous and hurt why do we need it hugh at river cottage promotes us with the kill it eat it so did gordon ramalamb jamie even did it why do they get posh snobs to repersent us. how would you deal with it supermarkets control what we eat. (but not you good folk) if tesc* stopped selling chicken and only put rabbit on the shelf rabbit would be back if a health scare hit the vegetables of this country how many veggies would become turncoats why pay stupid money for a organic free range chicken when a rabbit can supply the family with a taste alternative. i'm going for another beer Not following you really. It was a well balanced view, there were pro-shooting people from all walks of life, and antis too. Very good indeed. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 just watched the shooting of the deer scene again and i cant believe a head keeper allowed an inexperienced rifle woman to shoot a deer on a skyline with no backdrop at all. It's a highland estate in Scotland of 7500 acres. You don't NEED a backstop then - if you can get a 270 bullet 7500 acres away, you're doing bloody well - the guy knows the land, he knows what's there, as it's all private property. Quote Link to post
Timid Toad 18 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 my comment has nowt to do with the programe really just being a woman i could never handle that blonde bimbo closer than 5 miles someone slap her for me pleaseeeeeeeee Quote Link to post
FUBAR 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Why were they wearing their wellies in the house ? Quote Link to post
biffo 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 she got on my nerves ,dont even know why she was there. Checkout Cathy, the girl with the specs from the animal sanctuary. Bet she'll be practising her necking when she gets back! i thought she was a very sensible woman, to be honest i thought she'd be in the fluffy bunny brigade her owning an animal sanctuary an all. glad they found a sane person to have on the show Quote Link to post
bignoel 14 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 dumb blonde lol lol .her life was ruined for holding a gun lol lol lol. being a dumb blonde i bet that was,nt the only big gun she held that ruined her lol lol lol Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 It was interesting to watch and I have seen many of the programmes historically in this Kill It, Cook It etc run, and will potentially be happy to watch any more they may come up with.....However...... I am still struggling to understand how come you have all been suckered into this ...it is a TV PROGRAMME...it was nothing to do with being "well balanced" it was about bringing in opposite views to cause conflict/debate and make a TV Programme..it was the double whammy of "The Following programme contains explicit scenes etc etc".....it was not real life and of course we have no idea what ended up on the editing floor...it was about ratings!! The intention was to make a watchable TV PROGRAMME (within or under budget)...the produces have no interest whatsoever of the specific programme content...if they could have caused as much interest in a line dancing or knitting programme they would.... Take a step back and think about it...and consider the discussion/debate it has caused...they have achieved their objective!!! Just don't take it all so seriously.... Quote Link to post
Guest hyperion Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 i think the whole thing was biased, ill informed, stereotyipical and sensationalised! i cant help thinking that if they hadnt made such a big fuss about killing people would have found it easier! yes taking the life of an animal is a serious thing thats why it should be done quickly as possible but why the big song and dance about it? the other thought that struck me was that anti woman when asked how do you control the rabbits mumbled some thing about foxes and natural predetors! so a fox chasing and killing a rabbit is ok cos its natural and introducing lynx to control deer is ok cos its err natural (??) but a dog chasing a rabbit or deer is cruel? and as for that blonde thing saying we dont need to eat meat and its not natural for humans to eat meat? the reason we evolved into humans is because we started eating meat! the extra protein from meat aloud us to grow large brians! rant over! cheers hyperion Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 just watched the shooting of the deer scene again and i cant believe a head keeper allowed an inexperienced rifle woman to shoot a deer on a skyline with no backdrop at all. It's a highland estate in Scotland of 7500 acres. You don't NEED a backstop then - if you can get a 270 bullet 7500 acres away, you're doing bloody well - the guy knows the land, he knows what's there, as it's all private property. if you took a shot on land no-one was alowed on and you killed a trespasser and you came out with that statement you would have a crimmial record for manslauter It's the Scottish Highlands, there is nothing bloody there, but whatever. Quote Link to post
Mr_Logic 5 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 i think the whole thing was biased, ill informed, stereotyipical and sensationalised! i cant help thinking that if they hadnt made such a big fuss about killing people would have found it easier! yes taking the life of an animal is a serious thing thats why it should be done quickly as possible but why the big song and dance about it? the other thought that struck me was that anti woman when asked how do you control the rabbits mumbled some thing about foxes and natural predetors! so a fox chasing and killing a rabbit is ok cos its natural and introducing lynx to control deer is ok cos its err natural (??) but a dog chasing a rabbit or deer is cruel? and as for that blonde thing saying we dont need to eat meat and its not natural for humans to eat meat? the reason we evolved into humans is because we started eating meat! the extra protein from meat aloud us to grow large brians! rant over! cheers hyperion No, they made a big deal over the killing because they wanted to hammer home the point that these people were out there doing it themselves. As for the antis, yes, they are anti! But there were many pro- views as well, and that is why it was balanced. But as Deker says, it was primarily for good TV, and I think they achieved that well. Quote Link to post
jamiethehunter 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I've just watched them all and i think the show on deer stalking was excellent it really showed stalking in a positive light. I think the duck and grouse didn't really didn't really offer anything to us or to the anti's . The rabbit show was a bit of a let down though as blasting away at a running rabbit with a shotgun when you have no experience is not an effective way of hunting them and there are more effective ways of targetting them. But despite everything it was still better than most of the garbage on tv. Quote Link to post
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