this site with regards the police,rspca

[ABDog 0]

i dont think that d d a applys when its hunting

Well, it could. . but that's not what I was saying.

My point was that a seizure under sec.1 is the only instance, in law (and that I know of), where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent

The onus for now is on YOU.............

With regard to what?

 

Section 1 of the DDA will soon be written off, as its deemed UNFAIR as too many dogs are being put to death based on what they look like.

On what basis do you make this statement?

We all know it's unfair but who, with the relevant power, has finally overturned it?

[parksie 2]

Any of you read about this story? The mods/admin don't even have to give access to the police and they don't need any kind of warrent etc to hack into anyones pc or forums etc after this new law was quietly passed (came in in Jan 2009) NEWS REPORT

[ABDog 0]

Any of you read about this story? The mods/admin don't even have to give access to the police and they don't need any kind of warrent etc to hack into anyones pc or forums etc after this new law was quietly passed (came in in Jan 2009) NEWS REPORT

Oh dear . . .

Ok... the database with IP addresses and stuff may not be on Admins home pc, the authorities would have to access the server that hosts THL.

 

And, if you read the details. .

A remote search can be granted if a senior officer says he “believes†that it is “proportionate†and necessary to prevent or detect serious crime — defined as any offence attracting a jail sentence of more than three years.

remote searches had been possible since 1994, although they were very rare. An amendment to the Computer Misuse Act 1990 made hacking legal if it was authorised and carried out by the state

So it's not exactly a new thing.

Police might also send an e-mail to a suspect’s computer. The message would include an attachment that contained a virus or “malwareâ€. If the attachment was opened, the remote search facility would be covertly activated

Suitable antivirus and firewall software should close this door

Police say that such methods are necessary to investigate suspects who use cyberspace to carry out crimes. These include paedophiles, internet fraudsters, identity thieves and terrorists

Is cyber-hunting illegal?

 

And much, much more. . .

[polecat 1]

i dont think that d d a applys when its hunting

Well, it could. . but that's not what I was saying.polecat reply

well what you saying ??????? d d a is when your dog is not under proper control and attacts or bites a human !!!!! its diff law against animals fact polecat finished

My point was that a seizure under sec.1 is the only instance, in law (and that I know of), where you are presumed guilty until proven innocent

The onus for now is on YOU.............

With regard to what?

 

Section 1 of the DDA will soon be written off, as its deemed UNFAIR as too many dogs are being put to death based on what they look like.

On what basis do you make this statement?

We all know it's unfair but who, with the relevant power, has finally overturned it?

Edited January 8, 2009 by polecat

[ABDog 0]

The line I added after your question explains what I was saying by mentioning the DDA.

 

I am fully aware what the DDA is, unfortunately you seem to not quite get the gist of it.

A person only has to be in fear of getting bitten/attacked for the offence to be complete.

[craftycarper 0]

not wanting an arguement,but just thought maybe an idea for the admin,mods on here to tell us what happens when the authoritys contact you over members and or their activtiys on this site what are you by law having to tell them.iv heard they have been in touch with ian b before,cant remember why or the out come,just thought it may sharpen a few minds if it was explained what by law you have to tell,show,give the police.

good question....what was you thinking of posting then

[chimp 299]

and a comment like that will turn it into a witch hunt . as i gather he just wanted to know the in and outs .

[droid 11]

If people post content that gets them in the shit, then they've got no one else to blame but themselves. y do.

 

Also it's not hard to print a web page out or save it to a disk....

 

Quite.

 

If people let their need for macho boasting get the better of their common sense than it's down to them.

 

The emot - - speaks volumes, doesn't it?

[chalkedup 14]

ive been on a site that was closed down a few years back by the police although it was a american site

as said already if they wanted info theyd go straight to the hosting company with a warrant , i doubt ian would even be contacted about it or even know about it unless they took the server for evidence and then the site would go offline

i own a fishing site and if the old bill contacted me about anything id be straight on the phone to those concerned, well depending what it was about lol and they wont risk things like that happening

 

theres actualy a system called echelon thats used to spy on everyone all based on keywords, look it up on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

if adware/malware was used a firewall wouldnt be no use all software manufacturers are forced by law to allow backdoors to be used for police to spy on you if they want to, especially microsoft

the only way to stop your isp from seeing things you send through there systems is by using encryption,like using https based forums

some countrys have banned the use of encryption saying you must be something dodgy to use it and even in the uk if you dont give the police the encryption key when asked i think your treated as guilty, thats if they don crack it themselves

[spiderpig 39]

where do you get a encryption from then? and dous it hide your ip?

[ChrisJones 7,975]

For the purposes of this post the word 'You' isn't aimed at Nitevision, although it's his thread and his posts I'm quoting.

 

The word 'You' is aimed at anyone who feels they may be effected by their post history and anyone that is curious about the site.

 

not wanting an arguement,but just thought maybe an idea for the admin,mods on here to tell us what happens when the authoritys contact you over members and or their activtiys on this site what are you by law having to tell them.iv heard they have been in touch with ian b before,cant remember why or the out come,just thought it may sharpen a few minds if it was explained what by law you have to tell,show,give the police.

We don't get contacted by the police.

YOU DO!

 

We've been telling you from day one, to be careful what you post.

 

We've been telling you from day one, that this site, and the hunting community in general, is being infiltrated by antis and the police.

 

We've been telling you from year one, that this site, and the hunting community in general, is being infiltrated by journalists looking to screw you for a good story.

 

We've removed countless pictures, stories and accounts, from hunters who are breaking the law. We've deleted countless accounts of journalists and antis that are daft enough to reveal themselves.

 

The sad fact of the matter is that you give them all the information they require. The only difference is that, before the hunting forums, they had to physically catch you at it. Now all they have to do is log in and take your stories and pictures from the Internet. You're actually doing all their work for them. Like it or not, the majority of dog work in the UK is now illegal. It's incredibly difficult to prove, with the current legal loopholes, so now that they can't actually catch people in the field they come to the internet where you offer a cyber confession. You post pictures of your activities. You post pictures of your vehicle registration numbers. You've probably handed them your phone numbers and contact information, via PM, when they stroked your ego about the breeding of your dogs.

 

so in your personal opinion the they could gain enough information just through pictures posted,i am already aware of that,

Yes. It's called gathering evidence to build a case against you. Simply running your registration number through the police national computer will give them your home address. Your posts, pictures etc will give them enough ammunition to gain a search warrant to your home. The rest happens when they arrive at your house and attempt to nail anything they can, to you, to justify their warrant. Unpaid parking fines, copied DVD's, and that pit bull 'type' sleeping by the fire. Maybe your over powered air rifle in the cupboard?

 

The Hunting Act says they can confiscate anything they believe can be used to break the act. They can take your dogs, vehicles and anything they believe was used, or is about to be used, to break the law. Your PC is the first place they'll look, after your kennels, if they came here and found you first.

 

Is there still any member of the forum in the dark about this?

[chalkedup 14]

where do you get a encryption from then? and dous it hide your ip?

encryption can be used for photo`s and text documents sent between friends but its only of use if your 100% that who your sending it to isnt the enemy, youl both have a key to read whats sent between you

 

a forum based on https can be used like when you shop online youl see a little lock show up on your browser so you know its secure and encrypted but its expensive to setup especialy for a large forum using lots of bandwidth and a bit of a waste of time for a open forum where most people arent breaking any laws

 

i used to go on a fair few smoking sites and it was always said that if the site was busted that your ip was logged unless admin switched off ip logging but then they cant ban people by ip and you end up with twats,journalists,police still being able to rejoin after being banned

so its down to you to stop that happening by using a proxy server so you cant be traced back through your isp to your home address where the pc is used, or just use internet cafe`s but even then i imagine your breaking the forums rules for posting illegal content like fox hunting pics

 

you can use TOR to stop you being traced back through your isp

you can set it up here its free, this is just a page to read up on what it is, just download it on he same site below

http://www.torproject.org/30seconds.html.en

 

if you dont use any privacy software this image below will show your ip, isp,browser and operating system, its not tracking you or logging you and it only shows YOU the information, so when you post a reply to a thread the time/ip is logged on the server,say the old bill got access to the server they can find out exacley who you are and where you are

[ChrisJones 7,975]

I've bumped this because PEOPLE ARE STILL ASKING WHY WE'VE REMOVED THEIR PICTURES.

 

[ABDog 0]

I've bumped this because PEOPLE ARE STILL ASKING WHY WE'VE REMOVED THEIR PICTURES.

 

bump ever minute of every day, some will always be too damn thick to 'get it'.. and then they'll blame everyone but themselves when they end up in a cell.

 

You can lead a horse to water. . . etc. etc.

[Attack Fell Terrier 864]

not wanting an arguement,but just thought maybe an idea for the admin,mods on here to tell us what happens when the authoritys contact you over members and or their activtiys on this site what are you by law having to tell them.iv heard they have been in touch with ian b before,cant remember why or the out come,just thought it may sharpen a few minds if it was explained what by law you have to tell,show,give the police.

 

You don't have to show or give anything to the police!

 

"NO COMMENT COPPA!!!"