steve0146 0 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I used to use science plan for my terrier and lurcher. When they moved to the adult, they seemed to go off it. We now feed rabbit or chicken. We get the chicken from tesco. The bulk cheap frozen stuff. Its about 3 quid for a big bag. They also get carrot, swede and cauliflower mixed through the blender. As we dont always have the meat available the dry food they prefer is the james wellbeloved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paddybarr 77 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 to be quite honest mate barf sounds too much like hard work, id rather just stick to dry food, much more simple mate think about whats best for the dog Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ESS Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 what breed of dog and science plan is not worth the money.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOPPER 1,809 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 whats hard about barf buy it thor it out feed it no problem i go to the slaughter house once a week and get ox hearts lungs, sheeps hearts , breast of lamb etc take it home mince it put in bags freeze it , then i get it out thor it and feed it and i feed 2 x alaunts and 10 terriers for about £12 a week your proccesed bagged crap cost you more than that , you want your dogs to do there best for you so show them the respect they deserve and do the best for them simple really its not rocket science after all dogs are carnavores ie they eat meat not procesed ceral crap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 why is wagg shit? good coats, loads of energy, firm stools and not too many farts. my dogs are as healthy as anything i had mine on wagg for a few months and thought the same. they're now on a better quality dry with extra mince etc and look ten times the dogs they used to! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 why is wagg shit? good coats, loads of energy, firm stools and not too many farts. my dogs are as healthy as anything because nine out of ten dog owners say so.. ..john It's a good basic food and asda have it a £7 for 17 kilos at present. There's a lot of hippy trippy buncum about foods at present. I wouldn't suggest that Wag is perfect or any better than other brands but as a basis for a balenced diet, I add cooked veg most feeds with cooked or raw meat/bones a couple of times a week, its a good reliable feed. Dogs have been on 'dog food' for a few years now and throughout that period have on average had improving life expectancy and health. BARF? emperors new clothes comes to mind sounds good but doen't stand up to close scrutiny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 i don't feed mine barf,they get mince beef,chicken and tripe also whatever they catch and biscuit but it wont be wagg ever again. i've a mate who has also changed cos his spaniels had no energy when fed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) i don't feed mine barf,they get mince beef,chicken and tripe also whatever they catch and biscuit but it wont be wagg ever again. i've a mate who has also changed cos his spaniels had no energy when fed it. see below. Edited January 12, 2009 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest WILF Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 hello, im changing my pup from puppy to adult food this week... dry food, i will be feeding him one meal per day... dry food, with one sardine mixed in with it just for the added pretein and healthy fats... Anyway.. I am considering getting him science plan adult complete its about 40 quid for a 15kg bag, but i am wondering wether its worth it, I am also considering Beta adult complete which is like 25 quid a bag what do you think? hes a staff weighs 20 kg. All that dry stuff is utter shite........and a total waste of money,not to mention that it wont do the dog any favours health wise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) i don't feed mine barf,they get mince beef,chicken and tripe also whatever they catch and biscuit but it wont be wagg ever again. i've a mate who has also changed cos his spaniels had no energy when fed it. Most complete feeds are made to meet the needs of 'pet' dogs and so may not suit workers. I suppliment with meat, bones veg and table scraps to individuel needs. Mine have plenty of energy are healthy, easily able to tolerate a nights lamping, multiple sprints, or a long run with me, 6 or 7 miles steady paced including at least half free running on beach and burrows. At the end of the day it's about the right balence of carb, protein and fats the source doesn't realy matter as long as it's digestable. The dogs body doesn't care if it's protein comes from a chickens beak or it's breast cooked or raw just as long as it provides the correct nutrients. Edited January 12, 2009 by sandymere Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i think science plan is only worth it if your dog has a problem e.g.digestive or skin....if you want to spend £40 a bag i would highley recomend james wellbeloved as it has no artificial colours or chemicals...but there is also a cheaper alternative called chappie which is the same thing pretty much the same but £15 a bag the only diffrence supposedly is the quality of the meat but i have never tried that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fieldsporthunter 1,864 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 wagg worker for mine. £8 for 15 kg and vat free show some respect to your dogs and get them off that shit. ..john i agree, its the worsed dry food ive ever used. two weeks after i changed from it i noticed a big differance in dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richard25 0 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) i don't feed mine barf,they get mince beef,chicken and tripe also whatever they catch and biscuit but it wont be wagg ever again. i've a mate who has also changed cos his spaniels had no energy when fed it. Most complete feeds are made to meet the needs of 'pet' dogs and so may not suit workers. I suppliment with meat, bones veg and table scraps to individuel needs. Mine have plenty of energy are healthy, easily able to tolerate a nights lamping, multiple sprints, or a long run with me, 6 or 7 miles steady paced including at least half free running on beach and burrows. At the end of the day it's about the right balence of carb, protein and fats the source doesn't realy matter as long as it's digestable. The dogs body doesn't care if it's protein comes from a chickens beak or it's breast cooked or raw just as long as it provides the correct nutrients. Its actually something that is really worth looking into as there are "i think" something like thirteen different kinds of protein that you dog can digest & fourteen for cats thats why you can give your cat dog food but not your dog cat food & all these different proteins get absorbed & used in different ways. ( lol i allways get this one confused & infact it maybe the other way around hahaha ) thats what i get for being a smart ass Science plan is good if your dog has a certain problem & you have to use the medicated food from them other than that its pretty crap & if you want to use the best or arguably one of the best it would have to be for dry foods something like wellbelovered or burns, buts theres a couple in the same brackets like nutro aswell & there all around the same price, alternatively you could use one of the frozen raw prepared foods like prizechoice or others. good luck Edited January 12, 2009 by richard25 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
T78 4 Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 i don't feed mine barf,they get mince beef,chicken and tripe also whatever they catch and biscuit but it wont be wagg ever again. i've a mate who has also changed cos his spaniels had no energy when fed it. Most complete feeds are made to meet the needs of 'pet' dogs and so may not suit workers. I suppliment with meat, bones veg and table scraps to individuel needs. Mine have plenty of energy are healthy, easily able to tolerate a nights lamping, multiple sprints, or a long run with me, 6 or 7 miles steady paced including at least half free running on beach and burrows. At the end of the day it's about the right balence of carb, protein and fats the source doesn't realy matter as long as it's digestable. The dogs body doesn't care if it's protein comes from a chickens beak or it's breast cooked or raw just as long as it provides the correct nutrients. we were both feeding wagg worker so expected it to be good enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
milo 74 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Got all my stock on WAFCOL and raw minced chicken and hearts every other day,and mine are out lamping 3times aweek and hunting all day sunday and they seem to do well on it plenty of energy,coats nice and shiny,teeth and gums clean but all the best in you quest for food there is a lot of bull shit about out there i think its just trial and error and finding the right choice for the type of animal that you keep GOOD LUCK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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