Deerhounds and deerhound crosses

[Guest oldskool]

Do you think that a saluki grey would of been better suited to deer/fox pre ban?

 

 

 

i dont know about deer but where i'm from i rarely hear anybody comment anything good about saluki/greyhounds taking fox... would it be possible that maybe thats why there is alot of saluki/greys x bull/greys popping up????

[dangergirl 13]

Ive heard alot of good things about saluki/greys actually. A very versitile x, that can take all quarry.

Edited January 7, 2009 by dangergirl

[whin 463]

saw d platts deerhound crosses nice tools and a bitch of the [bANNED TEXT] stamp would be handy up north for roe and a dog for bigger than roe , best deerhound dogs ive saw were frombenhardaway kennels in goergia they call them staghounds very good dogs , a bit simlar to platts ,saluks are fine but some not hardy for weather and lose condition and some hard for weather was out yesterday blowing a gale and my male dog didnt even shiver ,some deerhounds ive been out with were finre dogs but you need good greyhounds to to get the best

[dai dogs 1,414]

anyone got bull cross deerhounds ?

[ratmogit 16]

anyone got bull cross deerhounds ?

bull xdeerhound/greyhound. this a first cross

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

this is the bitch i got recently of irish lurcher and maccer off this site

wheaton x deerhound x irish terrier

shes picking up rabbits and foxes and more

 

 

Nice to see you are happy with the bitch Luke, macker put plenty of time into her to get her to the stage she is at, take it nice and easy with her for the time being.

[doxhope 2]

Hi guys, just after your opinions on deerhounds.

 

What are they like as a breed?(any pro´s and con´s)

How are they to train?

What were like on big game(pre ban) compared to other big game dogs, saluki, bull x ect?

Are they any good on rabbits?

Would you prefer a pure deerhound, 1/2 deer grey or 1/4 deer grey and reasons for your choice.

 

Would never vouch for the deerhound breed on the whole, but can comment acurately on what Ive had and seen

This is certainly a breed that is divided into working stock and non working..Even if some of the so called experts, inside and outside the breed will disagree. Get one from noted working strains that are still being worked and they are quite decent, the best being between an average and above average lurcher..

Ive killed well into the high twenties of rabbits with many of mine, theyve all killed hare, they inialate roe and totally destroy fox..Ive never had a foot injury with a deerhound ever, and any foot troubles that could occur with first crossers, (as with any cross) probably comes from the greyhound side anyhow, Ive never had to stitch a deerhound through fox, Ive never had one quite and Ive never had one that couldnt be taken out every night of the week if required and Ive never had one yap, all have been natural retrievers and jumpers. As for being soft, Ive seen a deerhound break its leg on a sheep trough, chase the rabbit, kill it, and jump a wire fence retrieving it, with its back leg waving in the air like a flag. The trouble with deerhounds in this country is deerhound owners, too many of their owners take them out into a field, they see a rabbit or hare, the dog makes a half hearted attempt to chase it and low and behold, they become the proud owners of working/coursing deerhounds..These are cross bred for lurchers, and a lot of these dont make the grade..

Owners are breeding hunting traits out, they are breeding too big and they are breeding structural and health faults in. The heart problem mentioned is a direct result of breeding too big, deerhounds are not designed to be 34 inches and weigh 120+ lbs, plus, a few wolfhounds have been secretly added to knock up the size for show, this has brought in cardiomyopathy, a condition deerhounds never had, but wolfhounds did...

Too many hairdressers among the deerhound people now, not enough good dog men and too many novices clinging to judges or commercial breeders aprons Im affraid..and novices teaching novices is a dangerous game. We have almost lost the best of the good working stock of deerhounds in this country, the daft hunting ban the last nail in their coffins..

A lot of the best lurchers for all round ability in the country at one time were dogs with a percentage of deerhound in them, certainly the best dogs Ive ever seen were between the 70`s and 90`s when there were a lot of this type.

Yes you can get some good deerhounds, and yes you can get some shit, and this goes for crosses bred from them, and this goes for every cross.

Ive laways kept deerhound lurchers, they do for me what Ive found no other cross can give me..they certainly wont suit everyone, but, what cross will..

[Bosun11 537]

Great reply Dox

[whin 463]

im afraid mate the best dogs ive saw deerhound wise was over the pond saw ayoung staghound kneck a coyote if it ws bred for it was its first coyote and never seen one before but gave it a hiding brisket just crushed it , saw one run 2 40 on jack rabbits good dog but unluckly got klled in an accident but a very good dog not what you call agenuine one but near as dam it deerhound type saw its family good dogs to got pics here of them all with game saw d platts dogs not bad stamp to big for me but had the ability to do something in the [bANNED TEXT] hands ,foxes easy meat for them as acoyote is bigger tougher ,by far

[doxhope 2]

im afraid mate the best dogs ive saw deerhound wise was over the pond saw ayoung staghound kneck a coyote if it ws bred for it was its first coyote and never seen one before but gave it a hiding brisket just crushed it , saw one run 2 40 on jack rabbits good dog but unluckly got klled in an accident but a very good dog not what you call agenuine one but near as dam it deerhound type saw its family good dogs to got pics here of them all with game saw d platts dogs not bad stamp to big for me but had the ability to do something in the [bANNED TEXT] hands ,foxes easy meat for them as acoyote is bigger tougher ,by far

 

Thats great matie, always best to say things from experience..then no one can say your wrong..

Ive said for years the best working deerhound stock is now outside the UK..

[whin 463]

over by in the western states of usa plenty good ole boys keep deerhound types for coyotes my mate imported a pure in the severnties from anastacia a good bitch but got killed on the higway on deer , britain is second class now i think when it comes to big strong deerhoundy dogs for big game maybe im wrong but well ,i see plenty over by and they are good ,nose strong thick hides ,they boys who are at it all use stags for bigger game ,no other crosses apart from the odd one , some slips are 400 ydsand you belt over the prairie on horse or jeep you need adog with stride to get there and stamina cheers

[whin 463]

if you ever get the chance ive got a book called canines and coyotes a real book wrote in the forties fifties but there dog handling and hunting sense would still be good enough today all about staghounds borzios pure greyhounds coursing type , good book if your a deerhound man

[dangergirl 13]

Thanks for the reply dox

[doxhope 2]

Thanks for the reply dox

 

My pleasure treasure

[farlap 19]

Farlap

 

Depends on where they were bred and what you are running them on. All working Deerhounds have been out-crossed to Coursing Greyhounds somewhere along the line. I like to bring in a bit of Breardie to annd brains to the mix.

jim i have a working bred deerhound who most certainly does NOT have greyhound outcross thanks