inan 841 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 An excerpt from a Seminar by Greyhound vet John Kohnke "Roasting or Grilling of fatty meat destroys some of the important amino acids, such as methionine, as well as Vitamin A Vitamin E and Folic Acid. These essential nutrients help to break down the fat in the bowels so when they are destroyed, extra fat is absorbed from the gut and may accumulate in the liver. Burnt (oxidised) fat forms harmful peroxide chemicals that can interfere with muscle and liver function, causing slow growth in puppies and poor performance in working dogs" He is talking about cooking at temps over 200 Centigrade Kohnke wrote an excellent book called Veterenary Advice For Greyhound Owners,I would recommend it to all Lurcher owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 sandemere i am not getting into one of our big drawn out food debates ... do some research on the variouse veg nutritional information and you will see what i mean about carrots .... mmmm creatine building blocks protein ... you are starting to sound like me are you at last coming over to my way of thinking regarding the energy values from fats rather than from carbs ??? all i need to do now is to convince you that raw is best ........ jay you cannot feed a dog on fat alone mate you will visibly be able to see it losing weight as the days go on ........... Socks! lordy no I'll base my views on science rather tham the emperors new clothes lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kye 77 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 ANOTHER question for you guys!..lol. How about offal?...i just picked up a shit load of liver and heart, both being from cattle...can i use that instead of flesh as a protein source?... Many thanks.. Jay.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 ANOTHER question for you guys!..lol. How about offal?...i just picked up a shit load of liver and heart, both being from cattle...can i use that instead of flesh as a protein source?... Many thanks.. Jay.. dont feed to much offal mate twice a week is plenty .......... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DevoidOvTalent 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 ANOTHER question for you guys!..lol. How about offal?...i just picked up a shit load of liver and heart, both being from cattle...can i use that instead of flesh as a protein source?... Many thanks.. Jay.. Heart is muscle meat. It's fine to give plenty of heart. Liver only a couple of times a week, and not in large amounts. Liver is high in both copper and vitamin A, which can be toxic in large quantities, especially the copper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tiff 36 Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 I played with food all yesterday! Until we either get Kyes bandsaw/mincer set up, or buy a cheap one, I'm having to hand cut everything . With the 50+ pounds of heart I chopped 20 pounds into 1" cubes, more is in the freezer waiting to defrost and cut up. 40 pounds of beef fat I cubed up, another 30 pound box waiting to be done, and more is picked up daily from the butcher. 15+ pounds of liver I blended up with all of the blood left over from the hearts, it's in jugs in the fridge and freezer. I figure I'll just add warm water to take the chill off. I cooked up 10 pounds of rice, it's in the fridge to use as needed. I'll grate up the vegetables as I use them, or maybe I should do a weeks worth and freeze it down? Does freezing lower the nutritional value of vegetables? I'm going to have to plug in an old little fridge for dog food, there isn't room in our regular fridge for our stuff plus the dogs. My hands hurt, my fingers are frostbitten, but a lot was accomplished to make daily feeding quick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sandymere 8,263 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 "I'll grate up the vegetables as I use them, or maybe I should do a weeks worth and freeze it down? Does freezing lower the nutritional value of vegetables? " ( His wife) Not to any great extent in the context of dog food, if fed regulary, and as freezing breaks down some cell walls it may well increase digestability. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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