gilly-93 31 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Would keeping a working dog in the house have a effect on its working abilitys becouse i would hate to have it stolen i hear about it alot. My ferrets are spoilt rotten and part of the family but they work their knackers off! Quote Link to post
ferret boy charlie 0 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 no mate not at all Quote Link to post
sniper 30 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Would keeping a working dog in the house have a effect on its working abilitys becouse i would hate to have it stolen i hear about it alot. My ferrets are spoilt rotten and part of the family but they work their knackers off! no mate,none what so ever Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I know a bloke that used to buy so called trained gun dogs and pay good money and when brought home were only half way there.. Why? Because, it's not just the gun dog that needs training!....Trained gun dogs are in a different league to lurchers, very few lurchers come anywhere near the standard of a properly trained gundog. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I know a bloke that used to buy so called trained gun dogs and pay good money and when brought home were only half way there.. Why? Because, it's not just the gun dog that needs training!....Trained gun dogs are in a different league to lurchers, very few lurchers come anywhere near the standard of a properly trained gundog. My point was that he bought them sold as trained and they weren't. I was not talking about standards!! If i buy something then i expect it to be bought as its described. Why are they in a different league? you have very low standards.. Cheers Chris Quote Link to post
Guest flapper Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 IF A DOG IS MARKING CATCHING RABBITS DAY AND NIGHT AND IS TOTALY 110% NO ONE IN THERE RIGHT MIND WOULD SELL IN BE VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOUR BUYING. AT LEAST WITH A PUP YOU SORT OF TRAIN EACH OTHER, YOU GET TO NO WHAT THE DOEGS MOVEMENT MEANS Quote Link to post
gilly-93 31 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Very good point, flapper Quote Link to post
T78 4 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 get a pup mate. seasons half way through now so get a pup and bond with it over summer as it grows up.teaching it the basics won't be hard even for a beginner. Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Chis, I said "Because, it's not just the gun dog that needs training!"...No disrespect to you Chris but if you don't know why a gundog is different then I can't be bothered to tell you. Like I said no dis' to you so please don't come bask all aggresive. Quote Link to post
stormrider8 59 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Chis, I said "Because, it's not just the gun dog that needs training!"...No disrespect to you Chris but if you don't know why a gundog is different then I can't be bothered to tell you. Like I said no dis' to you so please don't come bask all aggresive. Far from aggresive mate this bloke is the head keeper of one of the biigest estates in the s west, with probably over 30 years experiance and certainly does not need training himself. I take it you either train or get your gun dogs trained? If it works for you then fair enough.. Quote Link to post
fraggle 4 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 i reccomend doing what i done, find some one local to you who has the dogs, i invited world hunter onto my shooting ground as i realy wanted to see a dog run, over the months we did this i started to learn what was needed of the dog and at the same time asked loads of questions, i eventualy bought a pup of mlb and he is helping me out no end in bringing her on. now i just need some one nr pirbright/a;dershot to help me out as i move there on monday, but wh will always be welcome to any new ground i get and his pm bok and mbile will be full off questions. honestly mate find some one local and invite them to your permision to do some lamping, watch the dogs and ask questions. then start to think of getting the dog. Quote Link to post
MikeTheDog 153 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I take it you either train or get your gun dogs trained? If it works for you then fair enough.. Hi Chris,...No, can't say I've had any experience in that department. Took a little interest in gundogs some years back and I understood that the handlers needed a little training to work with ready made/trained gundogs. Sounds like your mate had some bad luck. Keeper on a shoot near me trained his own lab' and went on to win field trials. Bloody great to see a good/proper gundog do the business, can a lurcher do the same I wonder! Quote Link to post
adrianvygus 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 (edited) If it weighs 50lb it aint a whippet! gilly-93, difficult one to answerer imo as I don't think you'd have much luck finding such a beast unless someone has been sent down or a family bust up. Maybe re home a suitable dog from a rescue centre!...Good luck. Has anyone actually had a dog from a rescue centre that has turned out to be a good worker? I got a dog from Battersea once he's in my gallery, a white dog with a tan patch one side of his head great nose but not much in speed, werll except he won the all comers race at Firle in 85' beat Gay Bickers 'Rosie' a 3/4 Bedlington x whippet, that should have been in the lurcher race. he was good with ferrets and some other dogs, liked cats but couldn't eat a whole one (chortle) havene a scoobie what he had in him. One of my pals up here breeds some cracking nonped Whippets which have good noses, and shed loads of speed, the secret of a good rabbit dog, you can not get enough. Whippets are easy to train, if you want a broken coat go for whippetx greyhound x Bedlington xgreyhound, don't kid yourself that you can buy a ready trained worker it's hard work, getting a dog to do every thing you want it to do and the only person that will extract that talent is you. You could end up being right royaly shafted. Edited January 10, 2009 by adrianvygus Quote Link to post
adrianvygus 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 I take it you either train or get your gun dogs trained? If it works for you then fair enough.. Hi Chris,...No, can't say I've had any experience in that department. Took a little interest in gundogs some years back and I understood that the handlers needed a little training to work with ready made/trained gundogs. Sounds like your mate had some bad luck. Keeper on a shoot near me trained his own lab' and went on to win field trials. Bloody great to see a good/proper gundog do the business, can a lurcher do the same I wonder! This is complete and utter bollocks, I saw a video about a bloke who moved to scotland from Norfolk he took his Lurcher 'Tarn' with him he retrained this dog for retreiving Wildfowl. The only limit to what you can train a dog to do is what you can do, unless of course it's an Afghan or a Saluki! Quote Link to post
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