whippeter69 88 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Finally narrowed it down to a Semi-Auto 20bore. Not wanting to spend more then £400 on one. Which Semi-Auto would be best in that price range, ow and 20 bore, because i like the weight and feel of them and ideal for rabbit to pigeon hooting, Thanks Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 http://www.sportinggun.co.uk/guns/126321/Y...gun_review.html cheaper then quoted on the review Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Nice gun, but am looking for a Semi-Auto, thanks Quote Link to post
Born Hunter 17,837 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Beretta 390 I got mine second hand for 300 quid, just usual wear and tear but other than that in very good working order. If you can find one its hard to beat as far as semi-autos go Quote Link to post
dc5 0 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I just traded my webley & scott semi auto In today and that was a good solid reliable gun. Mines was a 12g but they do come In 20g as well and you should be able to buy a brand new one for under £400. jase. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 In some ways this defeats the point of a 20g....you Will Never be able to use light cartridges in a 20g semi as it will not cycle, so you will get a thump...slightly offset by the fact it is a semi...lots of 12g semis can now use light..or low recoil cartridges as they still give enough kick to cycle the mechanism. Light 20's were originally designed as light 20...not light guns you need to use a heavy cartridge in. Find the right gun and you will probably be fine, but frankly, as 20g carts cost a chunk more than 12g, and 12g Semis are easy to use and commonly "light " themselves...and a lot easier to find than 20g Semis I don't quite understand your rationale! I'm after a good solid 20g O/U... I have 12g Semis and O/U's but would have no place for a 20 Semi!!! Just another viewpoint!! Quote Link to post
claybusers al 9 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 i have a 20b remington 1100 great little gun eats O rings though and will cycle right down to 21g. stear clear of the new webly and escort both come from the same place. have a look on guntrader, theres lots on there at the mo. if you can always buy the best secondhand expensive gun rather than a new cheap gun. it might be better in the longrun and more cost effective in shells to get a 12b but remember that almost all semis will only cycle 70mm 2 3/4" SHELLS AND MOST 12B dont like less than 28g loads if you can pop along to your local clay ground and see if you can try a couple out that belong to members as its always best to try before you buy Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 i have a 20b remington 1100 great little gun eats O rings though and will cycle right down to 21g. stear clear of the new webly and escort both come from the same place. have a look on guntrader, theres lots on there at the mo. if you can always buy the best secondhand expensive gun rather than a new cheap gun. it might be better in the longrun and more cost effective in shells to get a 12b but remember that almost all semis will only cycle 70mm 2 3/4" SHELLS AND MOST 12B dont like less than 28g loads if you can pop along to your local clay ground and see if you can try a couple out that belong to members as its always best to try before you buy Pretty much all the newer 12g models run down to 24 now.....never had a problem with 24 in my 391, but my old Beretta 303 would not deal with 24 very well.... all round just something else to think about..simple as!! Quote Link to post
whippeter69 88 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 In some ways this defeats the point of a 20g....you Will Never be able to use light cartridges in a 20g semi as it will not cycle, so you will get a thump...slightly offset by the fact it is a semi...lots of 12g semis can now use light..or low recoil cartridges as they still give enough kick to cycle the mechanism. Light 20's were originally designed as light 20...not light guns you need to use a heavy cartridge in. Find the right gun and you will probably be fine, but frankly, as 20g carts cost a chunk more than 12g, and 12g Semis are easy to use and commonly "light " themselves...and a lot easier to find than 20g Semis I don't quite understand your rationale! I'm after a good solid 20g O/U... I have 12g Semis and O/U's but would have no place for a 20 Semi!!! Just another viewpoint!! Thanks Deker, made me think now, is the 12 bore an better choice, cheaper cartridges, and more popular gun choice, but the only issue i have is will it damage meat on rabbits badly? thats my only worry Quote Link to post
sauer 2 Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 ive had my Webley & Scott for couple o years maybe just now.. 12g it is and i think its absolutely brilliant Sauer Quote Link to post
tom1cameron 1 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 If the issue is about damaging meat then dont use a shotgun or become a better marksman. There is nothing wrong with a 20g semi, indeed a second hand browning, berretta or remi would be ideal. However, if you want this gun to be used for other activities as well, rough shooting or ducks, the I suggest you get a second hand 12g. The synthetics are very light. To limit damage to meat on rabbits, use very light chokes at moderate to longe ranges or very tight chokes at short ranges and keep that gun moving Best T Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks Deker, made me think now, is the 12 bore an better choice, cheaper cartridges, and more popular gun choice, but the only issue i have is will it damage meat on rabbits badly? thats my only worry A semi in 20g doesn't do it for me, my choice would be a 12 every time...O/U or SBS in 20 by all means..and meat damage is going to be no different on a 12 or 20 if you centre it! As someone else has said though, if you are concerned at meat damage a shotgun is not the tool! Quote Link to post
provarmint 25 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 As said before get yourself a good secondhand make(Beretta) rather than a cheap new one. Quote Link to post
claybusers al 9 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 i personaly am a browning man i have had the A5 the fusion the silver and the gold and had access to a gold wildfowler all good guns but beretta are the most reliable i just dont suit berettas i did put over 50000 shots through the A5 in 12 months at my clay ground Quote Link to post
provarmint 25 Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 i personaly am a browning man i have had the A5 the fusion the silver and the gold and had access to a gold wildfowler all good guns but beretta are the most reliable i just dont suit berettas i did put over 50000 shots through the A5 in 12 months at my clay ground Couldn't afford to do that Quote Link to post
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