andy67 7 Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 a guy always told me dont build up the muscle until they grow the bone . or sumthing like that Quote Link to post
Guest MY LAW Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 got a friend that taught me the trade and he has a litter of malumutex grey pups 7 weeks old yesterday ,at 6 weeks old they walked 2 miles with him up and down fields and banks ,1mile there and 1mile back .and playing with each other all the time ,they will get more miles as the weeks go by .always done this with any pups and never had any probs.just like to add every dog this person has had does more work than any other dogs that i have ever seen ,and not once have they ever been [what you would call nackerd ]at the end of the night ,im convinced it is all down to starting them young that is why i started doing the same . never heard so much crap in all my life, walking 7 week old pups 2 miles, the blokes an idiot and so is anyone who follows his example, beggars belief that there are people out there that would even consider this advice if you lived to 100 you would never own dogs of the quality he has had and got ,but unless you want a night out ,you will never know ,willing to show you just to prove you wrong and shut you up .come out ,you got nothing to lose and if im wrong you can come on here and say im wrong ,not just imagine it . whats he going to prove, that walking pups 2 miles makes them into good hunting dogs ? if you think that, you have lost the plot, you are right in that if i lived to a 100 i would never own dogs like hes got malamute x greyhound you are right there keep running your crap .and beliving what you want ,feck me look man is walking on the moon well i never. Quote Link to post
kent scotty 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 when he says deformed he may mean that young bones are soft and bendy so if you get the muscles to big(more running than walking i would think)they can bend the bones out of shape and give problems latter on.i wouldnt think what you doing would do to much harm but as said rest days are always good for them after a long day. i suppose it depends on how long you think they are going to last ? if you raz them from a early age it will show when they get older.runn them in nice and easy and they may last longer. scotty no disrespect but like you say ,its all suppose ,think ,and may ,i and others have proved other wise.like i said before i looked after a pack of fox hounds and they get it very hard in there first year as far as miles per day goes ,never done them any harm and they get more road work than any other breed of dog .if people keep on saying dont do this or that because it was belived to harm them ,then it wont be mutch longer before we have a breed of lurcher good for 6 rabbits a week .just remember they are breed to work not show .most of what was writen years ago dont stand to day .but dont over do it ,that you have to carry them home. no disrespect taken! no one can learn if people dont share there experiences(and thanks for yours) but i just cant see dogs lasting into old age if started too early? whats the hurry? scotty Quote Link to post
Guest MY LAW Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 when he says deformed he may mean that young bones are soft and bendy so if you get the muscles to big(more running than walking i would think)they can bend the bones out of shape and give problems latter on.i wouldnt think what you doing would do to much harm but as said rest days are always good for them after a long day. i suppose it depends on how long you think they are going to last ? if you raz them from a early age it will show when they get older.runn them in nice and easy and they may last longer. scotty no disrespect but like you say ,its all suppose ,think ,and may ,i and others have proved other wise.like i said before i looked after a pack of fox hounds and they get it very hard in there first year as far as miles per day goes ,never done them any harm and they get more road work than any other breed of dog .if people keep on saying dont do this or that because it was belived to harm them ,then it wont be mutch longer before we have a breed of lurcher good for 6 rabbits a week .just remember they are breed to work not show .most of what was writen years ago dont stand to day .but dont over do it ,that you have to carry them home. no disrespect taken! no one can learn if people dont share there experiences(and thanks for yours) but i just cant see dogs lasting into old age if started too early? whats the hurry? scotty scotty like you say i[i just cant see] must mean you just dont know .try it and find out ,and my answer to [whats the hurry ] is why take so long when they are more than capable. Quote Link to post
para1 11 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 got a friend that taught me the trade and he has a litter of malumutex grey pups 7 weeks old yesterday ,at 6 weeks old they walked 2 miles with him up and down fields and banks ,1mile there and 1mile back .and playing with each other all the time ,they will get more miles as the weeks go by .always done this with any pups and never had any probs.just like to add every dog this person has had does more work than any other dogs that i have ever seen ,and not once have they ever been [what you would call nackerd ]at the end of the night ,im convinced it is all down to starting them young that is why i started doing the same . never heard so much crap in all my life, walking 7 week old pups 2 miles, the blokes an idiot and so is anyone who follows his example, beggars belief that there are people out there that would even consider this advice if you lived to 100 you would never own dogs of the quality he has had and got ,but unless you want a night out ,you will never know ,willing to show you just to prove you wrong and shut you up .come out ,you got nothing to lose and if im wrong you can come on here and say im wrong ,not just imagine it . whats he going to prove, that walking pups 2 miles makes them into good hunting dogs ? if you think that, you have lost the plot, you are right in that if i lived to a 100 i would never own dogs like hes got malamute x greyhound you are right there keep running your crap .and beliving what you want ,feck me look man is walking on the moon well i never. With you on the training of dogs mate but i don't think man has walked on the moon. Quote Link to post
kent scotty 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 when he says deformed he may mean that young bones are soft and bendy so if you get the muscles to big(more running than walking i would think)they can bend the bones out of shape and give problems latter on.i wouldnt think what you doing would do to much harm but as said rest days are always good for them after a long day. i suppose it depends on how long you think they are going to last ? if you raz them from a early age it will show when they get older.runn them in nice and easy and they may last longer. scotty no disrespect but like you say ,its all suppose ,think ,and may ,i and others have proved other wise.like i said before i looked after a pack of fox hounds and they get it very hard in there first year as far as miles per day goes ,never done them any harm and they get more road work than any other breed of dog .if people keep on saying dont do this or that because it was belived to harm them ,then it wont be mutch longer before we have a breed of lurcher good for 6 rabbits a week .just remember they are breed to work not show .most of what was writen years ago dont stand to day .but dont over do it ,that you have to carry them home. no disrespect taken! no one can learn if people dont share there experiences(and thanks for yours) but i just cant see dogs lasting into old age if started too early? whats the hurry? scotty scotty like you say i[i just cant see] must mean you just dont know .try it and find out ,and my answer to [whats the hurry ] is why take so long when they are more than capable. fair enough i bow to your experience as im new to this game,but going by my own body that is a bit f****d as i went a bit hard with things as a younger man, i still think it would be better to take it easy but as you say i dont know for sure so i'll shut up scotty Quote Link to post
Guest MY LAW Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 when he says deformed he may mean that young bones are soft and bendy so if you get the muscles to big(more running than walking i would think)they can bend the bones out of shape and give problems latter on.i wouldnt think what you doing would do to much harm but as said rest days are always good for them after a long day. i suppose it depends on how long you think they are going to last ? if you raz them from a early age it will show when they get older.runn them in nice and easy and they may last longer. scotty no disrespect but like you say ,its all suppose ,think ,and may ,i and others have proved other wise.like i said before i looked after a pack of fox hounds and they get it very hard in there first year as far as miles per day goes ,never done them any harm and they get more road work than any other breed of dog .if people keep on saying dont do this or that because it was belived to harm them ,then it wont be mutch longer before we have a breed of lurcher good for 6 rabbits a week .just remember they are breed to work not show .most of what was writen years ago dont stand to day .but dont over do it ,that you have to carry them home. no disrespect taken! no one can learn if people dont share there experiences(and thanks for yours) but i just cant see dogs lasting into old age if started too early? whats the hurry? scotty scotty like you say i[i just cant see] must mean you just dont know .try it and find out ,and my answer to [whats the hurry ] is why take so long when they are more than capable. fair enough i bow to your experience as im new to this game,but going by my own body that is a bit f****d as i went a bit hard with things as a younger man, i still think it would be better to take it easy but as you say i dont know for sure so i'll shut up scotty dont shut up keep on asking and questioning every thing your not sure of ,only way to gain knowledge along with trying ,[but im not to sure you will get that mutch knowledge from this site ,]but you will learn to argue with confidence. Quote Link to post
trader 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 getting back to ferret boy charlies oringnal post this is what i would do with a 6 month old pup starting from the top in that order 1 get his/her recall spot on 2 sit/stay/ lay etc 3 retreiving to a standard of a gun dog 4 stock break 5 ferreting sessions sit/watch 6 jumping 7 jumping /retreiving 8 out lamping for a look 9 lamping 10 general all round work by the time you have got to the last bits 8-10 your dog should be old enough to take both mentally and physicaly the work of a working lurcher up until that point take him everywhere you can with you to introduce him to different environments, dont over do the walking at that age he doesnt need to get fit for work, by 8-10 start to get him fit and by next season you should have a good obedient working lurcher good luck Quote Link to post
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 got a friend that taught me the trade and he has a litter of malumutex grey pups 7 weeks old yesterday ,at 6 weeks old they walked 2 miles with him up and down fields and banks ,1mile there and 1mile back .and playing with each other all the time ,they will get more miles as the weeks go by .always done this with any pups and never had any probs.just like to add every dog this person has had does more work than any other dogs that i have ever seen ,and not once have they ever been [what you would call nackerd ]at the end of the night ,im convinced it is all down to starting them young that is why i started doing the same . A 6-7 WEEK old puppy has no business being out of the yard!...walking 2 MILES a day with em is plain Daft!...offering that as serious advice is just wrong! Quote Link to post
AKA-BRINDLE 879 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 Over walking a dog can cause muscle problems but its the joints that are more likely to be damaged, the rule of thumb is 5 mins for every month of age. But it depends on the exercise the dog is getting, grass walking is better than hard surfaces and whether its forced ie the dog is onlead or scared you will leave it behind and just follows you for the sake of it. Usually though its hereditary conditions that are made worse by the exercise and not often caused by it unless you really walk a pup to death. Its usually bigger breeds to, Labs, Gsds etc. Spot on! Quote Link to post
kent scotty 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 when he says deformed he may mean that young bones are soft and bendy so if you get the muscles to big(more running than walking i would think)they can bend the bones out of shape and give problems latter on.i wouldnt think what you doing would do to much harm but as said rest days are always good for them after a long day. i suppose it depends on how long you think they are going to last ? if you raz them from a early age it will show when they get older.runn them in nice and easy and they may last longer. scotty no disrespect but like you say ,its all suppose ,think ,and may ,i and others have proved other wise.like i said before i looked after a pack of fox hounds and they get it very hard in there first year as far as miles per day goes ,never done them any harm and they get more road work than any other breed of dog .if people keep on saying dont do this or that because it was belived to harm them ,then it wont be mutch longer before we have a breed of lurcher good for 6 rabbits a week .just remember they are breed to work not show .most of what was writen years ago dont stand to day .but dont over do it ,that you have to carry them home. no disrespect taken! no one can learn if people dont share there experiences(and thanks for yours) but i just cant see dogs lasting into old age if started too early? whats the hurry? scotty scotty like you say i[i just cant see] must mean you just dont know .try it and find out ,and my answer to [whats the hurry ] is why take so long when they are more than capable. fair enough i bow to your experience as im new to this game,but going by my own body that is a bit f****d as i went a bit hard with things as a younger man, i still think it would be better to take it easy but as you say i dont know for sure so i'll shut up scotty dont shut up keep on asking and questioning every thing your not sure of ,only way to gain knowledge along with trying ,[but im not to sure you will get that mutch knowledge from this site ,]but you will learn to argue with confidence. dont worry i can argue with confidence but not about things i dont know enough about(unlike some about on here!)get me on something i know about and i will argue you under the table. i tend to find there is knowledge on here you just gota sift through the kids and arse holes. scotty Quote Link to post
ferret boy charlie 0 Posted January 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 getting back to ferret boy charlies oringnal post this is what i would do with a 6 month old pup starting from the top in that order1 get his/her recall spot on 2 sit/stay/ lay etc 3 retreiving to a standard of a gun dog 4 stock break 5 ferreting sessions sit/watch 6 jumping 7 jumping /retreiving 8 out lamping for a look 9 lamping 10 general all round work didnt i just say im doing that ? her reitriving is nearly like a ftc she will reitrive pigeon\pheasant her recall is quite good she has cought a rabbit by ferreting i dont teach my dogfs hard jumping til there atleast a year old but the do little jumps over logs and stuff im going out lamping with world.hunters when his dog has recoverd im not gonna let her run on the lamp till she is a year old and genaral allround work when she iss two Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 got a friend that taught me the trade and he has a litter of malumutex grey pups 7 weeks old yesterday ,at 6 weeks old they walked 2 miles with him up and down fields and banks ,1mile there and 1mile back .and playing with each other all the time ,they will get more miles as the weeks go by .always done this with any pups and never had any probs.just like to add every dog this person has had does more work than any other dogs that i have ever seen ,and not once have they ever been [what you would call nackerd ]at the end of the night ,im convinced it is all down to starting them young that is why i started doing the same .i dont see what good could even come out of walking 6 week olds 2 miles had they had there parvo jabs by any chance as im certain a good dog man wouldn't put his puts health at risk in my opinion i like a few short walks round the block with pups upto 12weeks then carry on from there Quote Link to post
Guest mickyrichardson Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 getting back to ferret boy charlies oringnal post this is what i would do with a 6 month old pup starting from the top in that order1 get his/her recall spot on 2 sit/stay/ lay etc 3 retreiving to a standard of a gun dog 4 stock break 5 ferreting sessions sit/watch 6 jumping 7 jumping /retreiving 8 out lamping for a look 9 lamping 10 general all round work by the time you have got to the last bits 8-10 your dog should be old enough to take both mentally and physicaly the work of a working lurcher up until that point take him everywhere you can with you to introduce him to different environments, dont over do the walking at that age he doesnt need to get fit for work, by 8-10 start to get him fit and by next season you should have a good obedient working lurcher good luck well said trader i for once agree with you although i start 1 , 2 & 3 from the moment i get the pup Quote Link to post
seang 163 Posted January 3, 2009 Report Share Posted January 3, 2009 i think pups should only get a small walk shouldn get there first hunt til over a year at least,it could ruin em otherwise lettin em look and off the leash is a most for hunting dogs but nothing too strenous Quote Link to post
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