dogs shot

[Guest anonymous]

It's ok everyone posting that they should hit this farmer in the pocket etc, kill his sheep blah de blah..... The bottom line is, if the dogs weren't on his land they'd be alive today. I'd be as raging as the next guy if it were my dogs but then again, I wouldn't be as irresponsible as to let it happen in the first place.

 

Everyone to a man on here has slatted the farmer and they all want his guts for garters, the guy is trying to scrape a living from sheep farming ff's.... He is only protecting his assets. It doesn't take much to make a sheep abort and all sheep are pregnant at this time of year, what is he to do? Allow this "pack" of dogs to worry his sheep? Does he wait till they kill a few before he reacts? EVERYONE of us relay on farmers to maintain the countryside we know. It's these same farmers that allow us on their land to do the sport we love. Aye, it might be big to post that you'd kill em etc, but I reckon the guy was within his right.... Before you say, what if it was your dogs... It WOULDN'T be my dogs in that situation!!!

 

No mate, to me this post about killing dogs [ because of money]. All my dogs are broke to Stock,

and every dog ive had in 25 years as been, but dont feel sorry for any farmer, because what he looses in stock, he will get back easy eg ..... from the goverment. Ok the dogs should have been

under control or on a lead, but he was wrong what he did. And most farmers hate lurcher lads,

i walk my dog by sheep every day on and of the lead, and the landowner is fine with that. But

as i said stock is just money to a farmer, my dog worth alot more than money to me.

 

How does the farmer know these dogs are broken to sheep? Why, some people even enter competitions with dogs that are willing to have a go at a sheep. It happens no matter what you think. As for him getting compensation, isn't the point is it? I know we think they are all heartless b*****ds and hety, he'll get £50 for it, who cares..... he clearly does!!! The owner of the dogs obviously doesn't care about his dogs as much as I or you do. Would it happen to you?

[poacherkev 64]

It's ok everyone posting that they should hit this farmer in the pocket etc, kill his sheep blah de blah..... The bottom line is, if the dogs weren't on his land they'd be alive today. I'd be as raging as the next guy if it were my dogs but then again, I wouldn't be as irresponsible as to let it happen in the first place.

 

Everyone to a man on here has slatted the farmer and they all want his guts for garters, the guy is trying to scrape a living from sheep farming ff's.... He is only protecting his assets. It doesn't take much to make a sheep abort and all sheep are pregnant at this time of year, what is he to do? Allow this "pack" of dogs to worry his sheep? Does he wait till they kill a few before he reacts? EVERYONE of us relay on farmers to maintain the countryside we know. It's these same farmers that allow us on their land to do the sport we love. Aye, it might be big to post that you'd kill em etc, but I reckon the guy was within his right.... Before you say, what if it was your dogs... It WOULDN'T be my dogs in that situation!!!

What a load of shit ! Whats your name GOD ..From time to time it happens running dogs put up a rabbit and before you know it its out of your field and your dogs gone over the fencing after it .What im trying to say is a simple word or a warming shot will have the dogs back on a lead asap by any owner you still may be piss off about it BUT the dogs would still be alive .

 

Maybe it's me that read it wrong.... I read that it was 4 dogs!!! Not 1 chasing a rabbit as you say but 4 dogs! I've poached ground before and had to get the dog on the lead before the farmer caught up with me on his quad knowing fine well he'd shoot it! It happens as you say, different scenario as to this one though. And for your information, yes I am GOD, why you ask?

Why i call you God was he was the only person who was ment to be perfect and look where that got him nailed to a cross

[chalkedup 14]

sorry to hear about this, like whats been mentioned shame he couldnt of fired a warning shot first

 

ive had my dog about 2 months now its a rescue

not realy sure what actualy happened as i havnt met the original owner but apparently he had a go at a sheep, he lived next to a farm and luckily the farmer warned the owner that if he see`s it again on his land he`d shoot it so he couldnt risk having him around just incase it happened again so my neighbour was looking after him

i looked after him in the day a couple of times and he decided he wanted to stay here with me so who am i to argue

but hes not let off the lead much unless im 100% theres no sheep or other dogs about just incase

 

edit:: hes 3 1/2 and its only happened once but i guess thats all it takes

Edited January 1, 2009 by chalkedup

[Guest anonymous]

It's ok everyone posting that they should hit this farmer in the pocket etc, kill his sheep blah de blah..... The bottom line is, if the dogs weren't on his land they'd be alive today. I'd be as raging as the next guy if it were my dogs but then again, I wouldn't be as irresponsible as to let it happen in the first place.

 

Everyone to a man on here has slatted the farmer and they all want his guts for garters, the guy is trying to scrape a living from sheep farming ff's.... He is only protecting his assets. It doesn't take much to make a sheep abort and all sheep are pregnant at this time of year, what is he to do? Allow this "pack" of dogs to worry his sheep? Does he wait till they kill a few before he reacts? EVERYONE of us relay on farmers to maintain the countryside we know. It's these same farmers that allow us on their land to do the sport we love. Aye, it might be big to post that you'd kill em etc, but I reckon the guy was within his right.... Before you say, what if it was your dogs... It WOULDN'T be my dogs in that situation!!!

What a load of shit ! Whats your name GOD ..From time to time it happens running dogs put up a rabbit and before you know it its out of your field and your dogs gone over the fencing after it .What im trying to say is a simple word or a warming shot will have the dogs back on a lead asap by any owner you still may be piss off about it BUT the dogs would still be alive .

 

Maybe it's me that read it wrong.... I read that it was 4 dogs!!! Not 1 chasing a rabbit as you say but 4 dogs! I've poached ground before and had to get the dog on the lead before the farmer caught up with me on his quad knowing fine well he'd shoot it! It happens as you say, different scenario as to this one though. And for your information, yes I am GOD, why you ask?

Why i call you God was he was the only person who was ment to be perfect and look where that got him nailed to a cross

 

Aye.... but he had a good piss up on all that water..... Anyhow, he isn't the only person who is perfect.... If Santa lost a few pounds, he'd give him a good run for his money!!!

[Clover 0]

"Spot on, what gets my back up, is all stock is bred for the dinner plate, and all means to a farmer is

money.They dont think of any animal like we do, even there sheepdogs are just a tool to them, and

they shoot them once they are to old to work. Go back in the night and kill as many as you can,

and hit him were it hurts in is pocket. It might make him not so trigger happy next time."

 

How dare you say that! We run a small farm - I have herd of black cows (ie no identifying markings) - I can tell them all apart, know their names and can tell you about their characters. I also have a small flock of sheep that are heavily pregnant at the moment. I care very much about my animals and make sure that they have the best possible life. And I am not alone in the way I treat my animals.

 

The person who repeatedly let their dogs stray onto someone else's land and allowed one to actually worry the sheep is to blame for this. Unfortunately the poor dogs paid the price for their owner's stupidity.

[mad al 146]

Folks you run dogs, you run a risk that the wheels could fall off one day . I've been out this morning with the mutts and there was stock in the next field to our land, now if one of ours went in there and got shot, well then the buck stops with me. Ideal opportunity for the farmer to claim for every bit of stock and some and that comes from someone who live on a farm, so you don't get in the situation if you can't deal with the consequences.

 

Remember in most folks eyes we're just feckin poachers

[Guest anonymous]

"Spot on, what gets my back up, is all stock is bred for the dinner plate, and all means to a farmer is

money.They dont think of any animal like we do, even there sheepdogs are just a tool to them, and

they shoot them once they are to old to work. Go back in the night and kill as many as you can,

and hit him were it hurts in is pocket. It might make him not so trigger happy next time."

 

How dare you say that! We run a small farm - I have herd of black cows (ie no identifying markings) - I can tell them all apart, know their names and can tell you about their characters. I also have a small flock of sheep that are heavily pregnant at the moment. I care very much about my animals and make sure that they have the best possible life. And I am not alone in the way I treat my animals.

 

The person who repeatedly let their dogs stray onto someone else's land and allowed one to actually worry the sheep is to blame for this. Unfortunately the poor dogs paid the price for their owner's stupidity.

 

I'm with you mate.... Here.... Any chance of permission???

[jackard 36]

if the farmer has been watching for 2 hours this lads dogs wandering onto his land why has he left this mans dogs worring his sheep for so long ? MAYBE HIS DOGS WASNT WORRING THE SHEEP ! im sure 4 dogs would kill a field full of sheep in 2 hours !

 

to me the farmer has taken the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , why did he not ring the police or the farmer that has given this man permission to try sort it out with the lad first ? no the farmer choice wasnt to and to take the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , so i dont gine 2 monkeys fcks what any 1 says i would be taking the law into my own hands and killing every sheep he owns , then i might be nice and leave his farm alone.

 

i also see we have a lot of lurcher lads that seem to be able to call there dogs off game when in persuit or when wondering off permission . dogs cant be worth a shit ! ive been running lurchers since i was a boy and im 42 now and ive never seen a dog jak cos its gone out of permiission.

 

sorry has to be an eye for a eye in this case !

[Guest anonymous]

if the farmer has been watching for 2 hours this lads dogs wandering onto his land why has he left this mans dogs worring his sheep for so long ? MAYBE HIS DOGS WASNT WORRING THE SHEEP ! im sure 4 dogs would kill a field full of sheep in 2 hours !

 

to me the farmer has taken the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , why did he not ring the police or the farmer that has given this man permission to try sort it out with the lad first ? no the farmer choice wasnt to and to take the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , so i dont gine 2 monkeys fcks what any 1 says i would be taking the law into my own hands and killing every sheep he owns , then i might be nice and leave his farm alone.

 

sorry has to be an eye for a eye in this case !

 

On the other hand.... maybe he stayed for 2 hours to give the lad the chance to retieve his dogs... After 2 hours with no one bothering their arse, he might have needed to, you know, earn a living and do a bit of work!!! Seems to me these dogs would return another day and btw, a dog doesn't need to chase a sheep to worry it you know.

[Clover 0]

to me the farmer has taken the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , why did he not ring the police or the farmer that has given this man permission to try sort it out with the lad first ? no the farmer choice wasnt to and to take the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , so i dont gine 2 monkeys fcks what any 1 says i would be taking the law into my own hands and killing every sheep he owns , then i might be nice and leave his farm alone.

 

sorry has to be an eye for a eye in this case !

 

After reading some of the replies on this thread - do you think many land owners will be willing to give permission??

 

And the farmer didn't take the law into his own hands - he was acting within the law. The fault in this case lies entirely with the owner of the dogs who let them repeatedly go onto the farmer's land, especially since at least one of them had already worried the farmer's sheep.

 

PS to Anonymous, sorry I'm down in Devon, bit far from you

Edited January 1, 2009 by Clover

[woodard 32]

im all for an eye for an eye i would not of run away like Rat if some one shot my dogs dont give a fuk who the farmer was

i was walking just off a footpath once and a farmer come screaming up to me and i had my dog on the lead and he said i will shoot your dog if you dont F off now and i said to him dont be silly mate them cows are worth more to you than my dog then he truned to me and said dont be like that

Anyway sad to hear of his lost but he should not of run off and left his dogs glad i dont go drinking with him your backup would be gone

[Guest anonymous]

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After reading some of the replies on this thread - do you think many land owners will be willing to give permission??

 

And the farmer didn't take the law into his own hands - he was acting within the law. The fault in this case lies entirely with the owner of the dogs who let them repeatedly go onto the farmer's land, especially since at least one of them had already worried the farmer's sheep.

 

PS to Annonymous, sorry I'm down in Devon, bit far from you

 

Don't you worry your cotton socks about that me dear, plenty of diesel sloshing about me tanks............... Need a wee holiday anyhow... You see folks, you treat these farmers nice and you will be rewarded.... now wheres me coat.... :db:

[jackard 36]

alright then another view to look at it is

 

IF YOUR CHILD WENT TO SCHOOL AND WAS GETTING WORRIED ( PICKED ) ON WOULD YOU GO TO THE SCHOOL AND GIVE THE LAD A CRACK THAT WAS PICKING ON YOUR CHILD ? I THINK NOT YOU WOULD APPROACH THE SCHOOL AND INFORM THEM AS TO WHATS GOING ON AND LET THEM DEAL WITH IT !

 

SAME SORT OF THING JUST ANIMALS NOT PEOPLE , BUT PEOPLE CAN CONTROL THE ANIMALS AND YES IF THE LADS DOGS WHERE WORRING THE FARMERS SHEEP THE LAD SHOULD HAVE MOVED AWAY FROM THE FIELD SO THEY DIDNT BUT THE FARMER SHOULDNT HAVE WAITED 2 HOURS EITHER . 2 HOURS WOULD BE LONGER ANOTH FOR 4 DOGS TO KILL EVERY SHEEP IN THE FIELD. BOTH ARE OUT OF ORDER AS THE FARMER SHOULD HAVE APPROACHED THE LAD AND THE FARMER THAT GAVE PERMISSION OR THE POLICE AND TRYED TO DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY ! BUT HE DIDNT HE DELT WITH IT THE WRONG WAY . SHOT THE DOGS.

SO SORRY JUST HOPE THE FARMER NEVA DOES THE SAME TO ME AS I WOULD KILL ALL HIS ANIMALS WETHER IT BE COWS ,SHEEP , HORSES , CHICKENS . THE LOT WOULD BE GOING .

 

AND IM A POACHER SO IF YOUR READING THIS FARMERS THINK BEFORE YOU SHOOT AS IT MIGHT BE ME YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH AFTER !!!!!! AND IM NOT BOTHERED ABOUT GOING TO PRISON AFTER IVE RUINED YOU !

[Leeview 791]

if the farmer has been watching for 2 hours this lads dogs wandering onto his land why has he left this mans dogs worring his sheep for so long ? MAYBE HIS DOGS WASNT WORRING THE SHEEP ! im sure 4 dogs would kill a field full of sheep in 2 hours !

 

to me the farmer has taken the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , why did he not ring the police or the farmer that has given this man permission to try sort it out with the lad first ? no the farmer choice wasnt to and to take the law into his own hands and shot this mans dogs , so i dont gine 2 monkeys fcks what any 1 says i would be taking the law into my own hands and killing every sheep he owns , then i might be nice and leave his farm alone.

 

i also see we have a lot of lurcher lads that seem to be able to call there dogs off game when in persuit or when wondering off permission . dogs cant be worth a shit ! ive been running lurchers since i was a boy and im 42 now and ive never seen a dog jak cos its gone out of permiission.

 

sorry has to be an eye for a eye in this case !

the farmer wasnt taking the law int his own hands the law entitles him to protect his stock

If you reread the opening thread it states some he gets is dog food off told him someone he knew had his dogs shot in the dales. 3rd hand info

"the farmers were watching him for awhile" didnt that cause any alarm bells to ring?

"he left the dogs there and did a runner" did he have permission at all to be there?

and where abouts in the dales was this incident?

Y.I.S Leeview

[L8SPORTS 19]

How could the lad handle 3 dogs any way sounds like they could ov bin abit outa control if he was alone, and if he was with his friends then a pack of dogs and a pack of lads with no permission! plus if the farmer was ther for 2hours you should ov bin well on to the fact you were straying on to his land,the farmer is outa order he could ov warned first but who knows how much shit hes taken over the years or how much stock hes lost who knows he could ov lost a few the day before and that was the nail in the coffin with them 3 dogs.