Tyla 3,179 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 It does happen, most people dont think that it does because it is rare, partly because not all labs are suitable and partly because the owners of gundogs train them not to 'hunt up'. My labs are fast when i let them be, just takes a bit to rein them in and steady them up but to me its worth it because they love doing it. My old lab caught rabbits aplenty in his younger years although his turning was not great. He was a tall rangy type but still far too heavy for a running dog, maybe 1/4lab 3/4grey? it would should add trainability though. Keep us posted on their progress Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,669 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !Cheers. Just out of interest mate, if these dog turned into great lamping/runnign dogs would you consider having one ? In answer to that mate.. they won't.....and I wouldn't.. LOL ! I prefer a real running dog cross, you're fairly sure what you will get, but these in my eyes, I'm sorry to say, are not Lurchers ! Not enough running dog blood. But as I said, best of luck with them ! Cheers. Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !Cheers. Just out of interest mate, if these dog turned into great lamping/runnign dogs would you consider having one ? In answer to that mate.. they won't.....and I wouldn't.. LOL ! I prefer a real running dog cross, you're fairly sure what you will get, but these in my eyes, I'm sorry to say, are not Lurchers ! Not enough running dog blood. But as I said, best of luck with them ! Cheers. For me i have no preconceptions about any dog, if it does the job i want it to and is healthy then thats all that counts. YOU ARE A BREEDIST! Happy new year :kiss: Quote Link to post
chartpolski 24,669 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !Cheers. Just out of interest mate, if these dog turned into great lamping/runnign dogs would you consider having one ? In answer to that mate.. they won't.....and I wouldn't.. LOL ! I prefer a real running dog cross, you're fairly sure what you will get, but these in my eyes, I'm sorry to say, are not Lurchers ! Not enough running dog blood. But as I said, best of luck with them ! Cheers. For me i have no preconceptions about any dog, if it does the job i want it to and is healthy then thats all that counts. YOU ARE A BREEDIST! Happy new year :kiss: Yeah; you're right; I DO have preconceptions about this litter,,,, 1/2 Lab, 1/4 Bull 1/4 Grey, ( I think ?), how can they be considered as Lurchers ? As for me being a "breedist"; I suppose you mean I'm breed blind ! Nothing could be further from the truth !! Saluki, Bull, Whippet, whatever, crossed in the correct proportions from good stock, I'll give a try, but if you put the best of your pups to a good Grey, then put a pup from that line to a good lurcher you may, just may, get something decent !! LOL Anyway, Happy new year, and best of luck with your pups. Cheers. Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !Cheers. Just out of interest mate, if these dog turned into great lamping/runnign dogs would you consider having one ? In answer to that mate.. they won't.....and I wouldn't.. LOL ! I prefer a real running dog cross, you're fairly sure what you will get, but these in my eyes, I'm sorry to say, are not Lurchers ! Not enough running dog blood. But as I said, best of luck with them ! Cheers. For me i have no preconceptions about any dog, if it does the job i want it to and is healthy then thats all that counts. YOU ARE A BREEDIST! Happy new year :kiss: Yeah; you're right; I DO have preconceptions about this litter,,,, 1/2 Lab, 1/4 Bull 1/4 Grey, ( I think ?), how can they be considered as Lurchers ? As for me being a "breedist"; I suppose you mean I'm breed blind ! Nothing could be further from the truth !! Saluki, Bull, Whippet, whatever, crossed in the correct proportions from good stock, I'll give a try, but if you put the best of your pups to a good Grey, then put a pup from that line to a good lurcher you may, just may, get something decent !! LOL Anyway, Happy new year, and best of luck with your pups. Cheers. I was just kidding with you Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 They are never going to bag huge amounts of small game but what they will be is 100% grafters and they will not be out of place running along side the more 'typical' bull x. I will possibly be breeding them in a few years to a 3/4 grey 1/4 bull of the right type, just want to see how they go with the work first. Quote Link to post
otter 61 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Hows it going b? hope you had a good christmas and a good new year They are lighter than some 1st crosses and they are lighter than some of the last litter that the bitch threw and i cant wait to get them going and get the first pics up of their catches. Quote Link to post
otter 61 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Hows it going b? hope you had a good christmas and a good new year They are lighter than some 1st crosses and they are lighter than some of the last litter that the bitch threw and i cant wait to get them going and get the first pics up of their catches. who is b ??? yes i did have a good christmas Quote Link to post
chimp 299 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 yes the aussies use them but not for hardness as you put it , lets hope you dont end up with a bay dog Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Hows it going b? hope you had a good christmas and a good new year They are lighter than some 1st crosses and they are lighter than some of the last litter that the bitch threw and i cant wait to get them going and get the first pics up of their catches. who is b ??? yes i did have a good christmas LOL! Good day ferreting today mate? Glad you had a good christmas, all the best Quote Link to post
otter 61 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Hows it going b? hope you had a good christmas and a good new year They are lighter than some 1st crosses and they are lighter than some of the last litter that the bitch threw and i cant wait to get them going and get the first pics up of their catches. who is b ??? yes i did have a good christmas LOL! Good day ferreting today mate? Glad you had a good christmas, all the best maybe now is a good time to put your facts in order this is not baz typing as you think it is . i'm his wife . Baz won't come on this site he thinks it is to childish Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 if this breeding was 3/4 grey 1/4 lab or 3/4 of any running dog and 1/4 lab then i could possibly see a small amount of hope for them being working lurchers . but from what i understand of it these pups are 1/2 lab 1/4 bull 1/4 grey . where is the running dog . there is only a 1/4 grey in the mix . perhaps they would make good draw dogs preban . but we can't turn the clock back to the good old days . Hows it going b? hope you had a good christmas and a good new year They are lighter than some 1st crosses and they are lighter than some of the last litter that the bitch threw and i cant wait to get them going and get the first pics up of their catches. who is b ??? yes i did have a good christmas LOL! Good day ferreting today mate? Glad you had a good christmas, all the best maybe now is a good time to put your facts in order this is not baz typing as you think it is . i'm his wife . Baz won't come on this site he thinks it is to childish It is getting a bit bad lately, a bit bitchy and sly and sometimes people go a bit too far with things but i just ignore it and let them get on with it aslong as it's not aimed at me! lol! Happy new year. Quote Link to post
labsnlurchers 39 Posted December 31, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 yes the aussies use them but not for hardness as you put it , lets hope you dont end up with a bay dog I didnt say the aussies use them for hardness, just that they use them, i added it so as not to lose as much hardness as you would if you added something else. Judging them by their dam and sire im pretty certain they wont bay. They have had a few rags of the stuff neila brings home and show promise so far. I cant remember who told me they like lab because they are 'hard' (i dont know how else to say it lol!) and i also read it somewhere. I dont know of a lab that bays at anything though i may be wrong but i know mine dont but then again they have never seen a wild boar! lol! Quote Link to post
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