Update on my lab bull greyhounds

[chartpolski 24,669]

Now, I'm certainly NOT having a go here; but what did you hope to achieve with what I believe is a Labrador X Bull/Greyhound mating ?? Surely there is insufficient running dog in the cross for them to be classed as "Lurchers", the speed will not be there, to start with !! I have nothing but admiration for Labs and Bull/Greys, in their own enviroment, but can't see what this cross will give in the field !

Cheers.

[labsnlurchers 39]

bull x gene will work it's magic

 

Let's hope so!

 

If not, all these pups will be is something that looks a bit like a Bull X ...........

 

I'm with Hang and Bang on this one, there's a reason that Bull blood was used in Lurchers, and it ain't for pretty looks!

 

 

Have been through all my old books, and searched the net, and can't find any reference to game bred Labs ...........

 

If Labs did what Bulldogs do, then you'd be laughing, except they don't. End of story.

 

 

When's the next litter due?

 

I just did a search, took five minutes to post these, not spending all night justifying myself.

 

just writing about my first two pig hunts which were both succesful the first hunt was just behind my parents farm in pakiri north island new zealand.

Not even a quarter of the way into the hunt and i was already sweating like a pig.

Once myself and my boyfriend reached the top of the ridge their was fresh rooting and pig prints everywhere.

The dogs we had on that hunt were my first dog that i had only just brought a couple days before this hunt was Grace a whippet/cattle/mastiff she is a finder/bailer, Tiger a meat head holder/hard stopper, Shaker a mastiff/lab/X and two pups both 12 months old.

 

http://www.bse.co.nz/View/Classified/Pig-d...108/154029.aspx

 

 

 

Australias Pig Dog & Hunting Forum ... I have a litter of Arab Mastiff X Lab pups for sale. Father fawn coloured Arab Mastiff, Mother Black ...

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Theres a reason why i used lab and its not for pretty looks. Have you ever worked, owned or seen a working lab in action?

[chartpolski 24,669]

Hi mate, I posted on another of your threads, with a pic from NZ with two Lab/Ridgebacks..... top dogs on pigs, but what would they do here ???

Cheers.

[ratmogit 16]

Now, I'm certainly NOT having a go here; but what did you hope to achieve with what I believe is a Labrador X Bull/Greyhound mating ?? Surely there is insufficient running dog in the cross for them to be classed as "Lurchers", the speed will not be there, to start with !! I have nothing but admiration for Labs and Bull/Greys, in their own enviroment, but can't see what this cross will give in the field !

Cheers.

ive been out with the bitch and shes lightening quick and turns well for a dog of her stamp. if i hadnt seen the labs in the flesh i too would be scepitical about them, but theyre fleet and really agile. not fat pet hippos. im sure its all been carefully thought through , i think the proofs in the pudding and theyre allready showing to be very prommising . looking forward to the progress updates

[whippeter69 88]

I have seen one of LAL bull greylLab and he is a very nice dog, i cant see why these dog will not make a good lurcher. I have heard of many people labs coursing and catching rabbits, so if crossed with a grey bull then these pups should be just as good as any type of lurcher.

 

I think these pups will be a excellent working dogs, there is not reason why not, they will have the speed the aggression and the intelligence and obedience all in one.

[Guest oldskool]

hey there, i had an accidental mating about 5 years ago with a whippet/greyhound x alsation/greyhound bitch i had and it was a fantastic working bitch there is pics of her in my gallery....

 

anywho, a neighbours yellow labrador which was a fair to good field dog caught her when the bitch broke out... i kept one light built pup back as a favour to a cousin of the mrs and pts the rest of them... the pup grew up greyhoundy in appearance but never a nimble dog but does work to ferrets and can lamp a bit, emphasis on "a bit" but to be honest i wouldnt have much use for it... and to be honest again i dont rate it any better than a good working bred collie... but if it serves its owner well then it aint goin to matter about anything else

[labsnlurchers 39]

Now, I'm certainly NOT having a go here; but what did you hope to achieve with what I believe is a Labrador X Bull/Greyhound mating ?? Surely there is insufficient running dog in the cross for them to be classed as "Lurchers", the speed will not be there, to start with !! I have nothing but admiration for Labs and Bull/Greys, in their own enviroment, but can't see what this cross will give in the field !

Cheers.

 

as I said before we want to give the bull x more brain, more trainability etc without losing the strength and the size and the 'hardness'. For us to do this we used lab, its what the aussies sometimes use in their pig dogs because they are 'hard' dogs. Read someone had one that when they got to it it was still fighting with the pig with its guts hanging out. Now i know a bull x will do this too but thats my point, i didnt want to take anything away from the bull cross by adding a smaller weaker more likely to jack breed. We have lost a bit of the runningdog in this mating and we have been lucky that the pups have thrown light, but this is a long term thing that we plan, we want to work them, see how they go and then possibly breed to a full or 3/4 running dog giving 1/4 lab just to add the edge on the things i have spoken about.

Labs are often misunderstood and because of the nature of their work and training you very rarely see it at speed but by god they can shift, not as fast as a greyhound but fast enough to not be left for dust and with good stamina. We run ours in the harecoursing at heart of wales, you should pop along this year, i think you might be suprised at their agility and speed in the feild but i understand why you say what you do as they will never be as fast as a decent greyhound but its not all about speed.

[chartpolski 24,669]

I have seen one of LAL bull greylLab and he is a very nice dog, i cant see why these dog will not make a good lurcher. I have heard of many people labs coursing and catching rabbits, so if crossed with a grey bull then these pups should be just as good as any type of lurcher.

 

I think these pups will be a excellent working dogs, there is not reason why not, they will have the speed the aggression and the intelligence and obedience all in one.

 

Mate, if that is you in the picture, you are obviously a young guy; don't believe the "many people" who say their Labs course and catch rabbits !! It just doesn't happen !! One or two may taske a rabbit in exceptional circumstances, but NEVER on a regular basis !! My old Doberman has had a rabbit or two, more by good luck than owt else ! LOL "

Cheers.

[whippeter69 88]

Experiment is what created most of the things in this work, why not with working dog breeds, but in a responsible way, i would be very happy to work with one of these types of breeds.

[whippeter69 88]

I have seen one of LAL bull greylLab and he is a very nice dog, i cant see why these dog will not make a good lurcher. I have heard of many people labs coursing and catching rabbits, so if crossed with a grey bull then these pups should be just as good as any type of lurcher.

 

I think these pups will be a excellent working dogs, there is not reason why not, they will have the speed the aggression and the intelligence and obedience all in one.

 

Mate, if that is you in the picture, you are obviously a young guy; don't believe the "many people" who say their Labs course and catch rabbits !! It just doesn't happen !! One or two may taske a rabbit in exceptional circumstances, but NEVER on a regular basis !! My old Doberman has had a rabbit or two, more by good luck than owt else ! LOL "

Cheers.

 

We have a lab over my dads house, i have witnessed it with my own eyes, she was trotting in a rushy field, following the sent of a rabbit and it got up and she was right behind it, and after about 15seconds she caught it. She has done this about 5 times now, in different fields and different coursing times, so in my eyes it DOES happen.

[chartpolski 24,669]

LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !

Cheers.

[whippeter69 88]

LAL; don't get me wrong, a Lab X Bull/Grey would probably be snapped up in OZ or NZ, for pig work; but once again; I don't see what it will bring to the field here !! Best of luck with them, I'll follow their progress with interest !

Cheers.

 

Just out of interest mate, if these dog turned into great lamping/runnign dogs would you consider having one ?

[chartpolski 24,669]

I have seen one of LAL bull greylLab and he is a very nice dog, i cant see why these dog will not make a good lurcher. I have heard of many people labs coursing and catching rabbits, so if crossed with a grey bull then these pups should be just as good as any type of lurcher.

 

I think these pups will be a excellent working dogs, there is not reason why not, they will have the speed the aggression and the intelligence and obedience all in one.

 

Mate, if that is you in the picture, you are obviously a young guy; don't believe the "many people" who say their Labs course and catch rabbits !! It just doesn't happen !! One or two may taske a rabbit in exceptional circumstances, but NEVER on a regular basis !! My old Doberman has had a rabbit or two, more by good luck than owt else ! LOL "

Cheers.

 

We have a lab over my dads house, i have witnessed it with my own eyes, she was trotting in a rushy field, following the sent of a rabbit and it got up and she was right behind it, and after about 15seconds she caught it. She has done this about 5 times now, in different fields and different coursing times, so in my eyes it DOES happen.

 

Mate, my missus will ne in NZ next week and will be looking after a top bred Lab that was sent over there from here a couple of months ago. There will be pleanty opportunity to run rabbits with it.... but I'm not holding my breath !!

Cheers.

[labsnlurchers 39]

It does happen, most people dont think that it does because it is rare, partly because not all labs are suitable and partly because the owners of gundogs train them not to 'hunt up'.

 

My labs are fast when i let them be, just takes a bit to rein them in and steady them up but to me its worth it because they love doing it.

[whippeter69 88]

I have seen one of LAL bull greylLab and he is a very nice dog, i cant see why these dog will not make a good lurcher. I have heard of many people labs coursing and catching rabbits, so if crossed with a grey bull then these pups should be just as good as any type of lurcher.

 

I think these pups will be a excellent working dogs, there is not reason why not, they will have the speed the aggression and the intelligence and obedience all in one.

 

Mate, if that is you in the picture, you are obviously a young guy; don't believe the "many people" who say their Labs course and catch rabbits !! It just doesn't happen !! One or two may taske a rabbit in exceptional circumstances, but NEVER on a regular basis !! My old Doberman has had a rabbit or two, more by good luck than owt else ! LOL "

Cheers.

 

We have a lab over my dads house, i have witnessed it with my own eyes, she was trotting in a rushy field, following the sent of a rabbit and it got up and she was right behind it, and after about 15seconds she caught it. She has done this about 5 times now, in different fields and different coursing times, so in my eyes it DOES happen.

 

Mate, my missus will ne in NZ next week and will be looking after a top bred Lab that was sent over there from here a couple of months ago. There will be pleanty opportunity to run rabbits with it.... but I'm not holding my breath !!

Cheers.