RODENATOR

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

Im pissed off, I dont like the f*****g things at all, they are not a pest control tool in my eyes, and I cant belive DEFRA have allowed there use for destroying tunnels, they must be f*****g idiots if they thaught it wouldnt abused, and used to kill pests in their tunnels.

Firstly, its totally inhumane burning something to death!

Secondly, mole tunnels wouldnt f*****g be there if there wasnt moles using them!

Thirdly, theres a load of f*****g chancer amataur pesties going about doing mole jobs with them! Im cleaning up behind them, but im so pissed of with the whole thing!

 

Any thaughts lads?

 

IMO The sooner they are made illegal the better, pest control should be humane!

[on-point 0]

rodenators are, from my admittedly fairly limited experience, a useful and practical tool for the control of large numbers of warren dwelling pest species. i have only seen them used on moles once - to devestating effectto both the mole population and the piece of lawn - thus i can not really comment on that side of it.

 

however as a practical tool for reducing rabit populations in woodlands and covert they have been shown to be very effective. crop damage from rabbits and rats has been reduced to nearly zero in the areas that we have used the rodenator and this makes for much happier farming. i don't work in pest control but help with gamekeeping and estate work - the commercial use of rodenators might be different from ours but i should think its much the same.

 

i can't say that i knowwhat defra's intentions were or how they thought it would be used but any rats, rabbits, moles etc in the holes die through asphyxiation rather than burning as it is an explosion rather than slow burn of gas; this takes all of the oxygen from the air inside the warren. yes i would agree that it is not a pleasant death but then how many really are when you think about it? the lenght of time suffering takes place over and the type of death that results is surely not worse than a mis-aimed .22 in a lamp, a ferret scratching away at you until the boss digs down, internal bleeding from rat poisoning etc

 

i realize you approach this from a profesional point of view and so your livelihood is related to this trade but rodenators hae for us at very least added a very valuable tool in the control of rabbit, rat and to a much lesser extent mole populations.

 

just my thoughts

[R_Oldroyd 17]

Hi All

 

It is the topic that is talked about quite often when visiting sites, but i don't worry too much about them given the stories i have heard like conservatory windows been blown out people getting burnt

 

And the farmers that have had work done in the last few years have looked at other methods of rabbit control given that they don't think they are that good as they are made out to be HARD SELL.

 

I feel happy that they still call on the traditional methods so why be mad about it other than the conservation aspect of course.

 

regards Roger

Edited December 30, 2008 by R_Oldroyd

[stealthy1 3,964]

I was also under the impression that legaly, the animals had to be removed before the burrows were collapsed?

[Fidgety 8]

I'm with E.Cook, it is illegal to use them other than for collapsing EMPTY tunnels, even if there is a mouse down an empty rabbit hole, you will be breaking the law using one. They are very expensive, and only a matter of time before they are banned.

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

rodenators are, from my admittedly fairly limited experience, a useful and practical tool for the control of large numbers of warren dwelling pest species. i have only seen them used on moles once - to devestating effectto both the mole population and the piece of lawn - thus i can not really comment on that side of it.

 

however as a practical tool for reducing rabit populations in woodlands and covert they have been shown to be very effective. crop damage from rabbits and rats has been reduced to nearly zero in the areas that we have used the rodenator and this makes for much happier farming. i don't work in pest control but help with gamekeeping and estate work - the commercial use of rodenators might be different from ours but i should think its much the same.

 

i can't say that i knowwhat defra's intentions were or how they thought it would be used but any rats, rabbits, moles etc in the holes die through asphyxiation rather than burning as it is an explosion rather than slow burn of gas; this takes all of the oxygen from the air inside the warren. yes i would agree that it is not a pleasant death but then how many really are when you think about it? the lenght of time suffering takes place over and the type of death that results is surely not worse than a mis-aimed .22 in a lamp, a ferret scratching away at you until the boss digs down, internal bleeding from rat poisoning etc

 

i realize you approach this from a profesional point of view and so your livelihood is related to this trade but rodenators hae for us at very least added a very valuable tool in the control of rabbit, rat and to a much lesser extent mole populations.

 

just my thoughts

You or whoever your on about is breaking the law!! Well done I dont like poison either, but thats another story, however any decent pest controller should do what they can to ensure a clean kill, that is the aim. If your using a rodenator to kill vermin, your deliberatly going out to condemn many animals to a nasty end.....

I feel happy that they still call on the traditional methods so why be mad about it other than the conservation aspect of course.

Hi Mr Oldroyd

 

Im not perticularly worried about them being much of a threat to business, as any sensible farmer/landowner knows that the tried and tested methods of proper pest controllers are by far the best techniques and bring the best results, safely and humanely.

It maddens me because these folk are going about killing stuff with them, and making a profit out of an illegal activity! When others like ourselves, are doing things by the book and have respect for the animals we are called upon to control.

Edited December 31, 2008 by dogs-n-natives

[R_Oldroyd 17]

To true dogs-n-native,

 

Best one i have seen is a couple of farmers in Norffolk have made up there own home made rodenators, and i reckon there will be a death caused by one of these noisy f**king things it only a matter of time.

 

regards roger

Edited December 31, 2008 by R_Oldroyd

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

To true dogs-n-native,

 

Best one i have seen is a couple of farmers in Norffolk have made up there own home made rodenators, and i reckon there will be a death caused by one of these noisy f**king things it only a matter of time.

 

regards roger

I just hope it goes the distance- before someone gets killed

[RatSnatcher 0]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-New..._Plan_Goes_Awry

 

[Tallyho 181]

what is rodanator ??? and how does it work ????

[RatSnatcher 0]

http://www.rodenator.eu/

 

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2umEFHeo6mw only in america

[devonlad 0]

what is rodanator ??? and how does it work ????

 

Type in "Rodenator" on You Tube, then you will see what they are all about...

[RatSnatcher 0]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1AdCsJmU-PA&...feature=related

 

 

[mole trapper 1,701]

English nature and the Arsepca are both watching these and their sales very closely, they have several people they are keeping an eye on and are just waiting to pounce and prosecute, this is not hear say, i have it on very good authority.

Several of the weekend "pesties" down here are blowing up rabbits and moles for farmers with them, they fit it in when they are not using Strychnine that was banned over two years ago. :wankerzo4: :wankerzo4: the lot of em.

[DUCKWING 302]

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE GOVERMENT STICKS ITS NOSE INTO METHODS WHICH HAVE BEEN USED IN THE COUNTRYSIDE FOR HUNDREDS OF YRS

 

 

 

HOW LONG BEFORE FARMERS WHO ARE DESPARATE TO STOP LAMBS GETTING KILLED OR FREE RANGE HENS ATTACKED BY FOXES ..USE IT AS A DEVICE FOR KILLING PEST SPECIES ???????????

 

 

PERSONALLY I CAN SEE A HELL OF A LOT MORE DESPERATE FARMERS AND IDIOT COWBOYS USING THESE METHODS

 

AND

 

THE GOVERMENT ONLY HAS ITSELF TO BLAME

 

 

PERSONALLY ...................... I THINK ANYONE WHO WOULD USE SUCH A TOOL ...IS A FECKING ARSEHOLE

 

DUCKWING