lurchers taking feral goats

[Guest anonymous]

Are you lads for real??? - (anonymous and wild rover) or just being silly billies!!!!! ..... get it!

 

Anyways, the ones around mine look most similar to the goat in your first pic hairy bull! And similar sizes aswell, see the odd light one, but mainly dark with lighter patches.

 

Any more pics hairybull?

 

Do you hunt them?

[brookie 1,193]

what sort of feral goats are they? We have alot of feral goats here and have run them quite a bit. Not a challenge kinda like catching slightly wild sheep. Old stag I had would meet a mob and grab one on the back of the head/neck and hold, once you got hold or shot/stuck it he would take off and grab another, would get 4 or 5 this way in the end would put him on the lead before getting him off the last goat as he would keep going and catching. Some of the bigger billies would have a go with their horns but they arent sharp and havent got alot of impact behind them

Didnt get any pics of him back then but have got a couple from later on..

this one doesnt look real big in the pic but once gutted he still took 2 of us struggling to get him in the vehicle, the big billies on average go about 40-45kg dressed

 

These were shot but gives you a look at size

lovely dog the black and tan hows it bred mate

[jigsaw 11,899]

saw a well bred pit get hammered hard by wild goats,i know of a wheaten that was decent enough on them but needed a rest spell as he was doing them very regularly.they used to get pulled about a fair bit as the puck goats were very large and powerfull.it took some speed for a bull to come to terms with them as the ground was the worst any dog could choose to run on.a fast dog was a certainty to break its legs,hence no greyhound/running dog blood was used for it.these goats never wandered onto flat fields unless it was after dark.the goats were pure wild,never had contact with man unless it was being hunted.I have 2 fine trophys on my wall after a lot of hard work to get them,great craic .

[jigsaw 11,899]

my first ever goat,hes with me still,lol.

two i had after a sucessfull day

another still with me

the dog that was used for the slowing down of the ferrals,he sure as hell couldnt stop them dead.

[top terrierman 90]

my first ever goat,hes with me still,lol.

two i had after a sucessfull day

another still with me

the dog that was used for the slowing down of the ferrals,he sure as hell couldnt stop them dead.

that goat head looks well up on the wall.

[hairybull 3]

sorry put up wrong pic earlier have changed it

(didnt mean to put up the blackdog)

Havent got many pics of the dogs on them but have taken some good billies with dogs (they are the horns I kept) and have shot alot.

 

Once they know they cant get away they stand quite well. Billies put up a bit more of a fight but they arent too bad.

They make good rugs

Edited December 28, 2008 by hairybull

[J Darcy 5,871]

Some super pics there guys....nice head that one Jigsaw!!

The ones i pursued back then had narrow horns that swept right back over their heads. The points were sharp too!

 

 

JD

[stevemac 442]

Nothing special about feral goats any dog can catch them the 2 smooth fox terriers I had caught plenty and they wernt fast.

stevemac

[hairybull 3]

True Steve they are like catching sheep.

 

JD they arent the normal crossy feral goats then I wondered if that was the case as catching these ones arent worth mentioning.

[marky r 25]

going oftopic a bit here but wats it like to get permission over in OZ for the running dogs?

[J Darcy 5,871]

Nothing special about feral goats any dog can catch them the 2 smooth fox terriers I had caught plenty and they wernt fast.

stevemac

Well i would love to see these terriers trying to run on the terrain we were hunting......huge mountainsides of scattered rock outcrop. leg-snapping boulder fields that caused the dog to run as if he were walking on hot coals and yet the goat ran across with dexderity and confidence.....

 

stevemac, different terrain, different land, possibly different goats....them terriers wouldnt have got anywhere near the goats I'm afraid......

 

just my thoughts......

[Guest SJM]

Ive ran the same land Darcy speaks of and I cant see any kind of terrier catching much up there, except maybe the cold?

[leegreen 2,221]

I have a tame feral goat here and I can catch it, it weighs around 50kg+ a fat b***%*d. Its the same with most prey animals once they go down it's all over. I don't see the need to use a running dog as goats don't run fast but if that's what you got atb.

I think that a terrier will run akward territory aswell as any dog but I wouldn't be sure about a small dog tackling a goat on it's home ground.

[jigsaw 11,899]

looking at the aussie goats theyre a lot smaller lookinng than the ones we caught.The two in my pics are not the biggest goats about and I can guarantee you the goats we went after were fleet of foot,on a flat field they would be no contest for a lurcher but in their own terrain on the rocky outcrops and barren crags no fox terrier would handel one,i saw the pit in my pics take a hell of a beating from a puck more than once.If the dog can sustain the initail beating and get a grip around the face and nexck then it would be reasonably safe.The wheaten I saw in action was a game little shit,and got the knack of holding on the front end and staying out of trouble.Stevemac,I dont doubt you saw your 2 fox terriers on goat but they wouldnt even give the pure wild goats an itch never mind slow them down.The dogs I saw work couldnt stop the goats,they slowed them down so the owner could deal with them himself.When there was between 60-100+in a herd they were reluctant to fall behin from the main group.I would differenciate between FERRAL and PURE WILD,THEY ARE NOT AS EASY AS YOU THINk I ASSURE YOU.

[dogs-n-natives 1,182]

The ferral goats in Britain have been on some of our hills for over 1000 years, whereas the NZ and OZ ones have not been naturalized for that long, so im guessing the ones over here may have reverted to a wild state and may be why they are that bit more of a challenge?????