Malt 379 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Shepherds in Kazakhstan use Golden Eagles to control foxes, have done for hundreds of years.i just wonder how many eagles get killed or injured whilst doing so :hmm:and if they are the same type of fox we got here. Yes they are exactly the same type of fox as we get here, and they wouldn't use them if they weren't effective. I'd have thought that in a poor area of the world, you don't get much spare time to be training up BOP's, if they lost as many as you seem to think that they would, why would they still be using them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 I've already said I know little about birds of prey but find yourself someone who does, there has already been someone that has told you that there are cultures that use them for fox control on a regular basis. Do some of your own research and see it for yourself... Yes Tyla, bright and early which would be why i'm not in the pub tonight as I have been each other night that i've been childless this week... :laugh: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Shepherds in Kazakhstan use Golden Eagles to control foxes, have done for hundreds of years.i just wonder how many eagles get killed or injured whilst doing so :hmm:and if they are the same type of fox we got here. Yes they are exactly the same type of fox as we get here, and they wouldn't use them if they weren't effective. I'd have thought that in a poor area of the world, you don't get much spare time to be training up BOP's, if they lost as many as you seem to think that they would, why would they still be using them? because they probibly breed them ,like we breed dogs ,dont forget they dont have the laws and paper work we got .and being poor like you say i think they got all the time in the world to train them . Edited December 30, 2008 by MY LAW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!!i should not think they would try and prey on some thing all the time that can cause them a great injury ,they are made to have a go at foxes by man , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!! What I meant by training was the rearing from a chick, handling, etc. There's plenty of stuff on the net about fox hunting with eagles, and it's not hard to find. What I find hard to believe, is that someone sat behind a keyboard with an internet connection can insist that it doesn't happen, when there's pages & pages about it only a few seconds away, unless they're disagreeing just to get a reaction... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redeye jedi 39 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 my law you dont know alot if anything about BOP so i dont think you can comment accurately on their abilities so i wouldnt bother if i was you matey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Missie 1 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!! What I meant by training was the rearing from a chick, handling, etc. I know thats what you meant Maltenby. I was referring to MY LAW's comments. I've heard similar comments from anti's regarding hounds and training them actually... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!! What I meant by training was the rearing from a chick, handling, etc. There's plenty of stuff on the net about fox hunting with eagles, and it's not hard to find. What I find hard to believe, is that someone sat behind a keyboard with an internet connection can insist that it doesn't happen, when there's pages & pages about it only a few seconds away, unless they're disagreeing just to get a reaction... not looking just to get any reaction take a look at the vids on offer and they are cut to make you think that they dont get hurt ,or can kill a fox ,but you dont see it HAPPEN.they only grab them ,open your eyes and see.put up a vid showing it happen from start to finish and i will agree with you untill then you are living in fantasy land. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 What on earth makes you think they need lots of time to train these animals to do what comes naturally to them?! I should imagine they need the same sorts of training as dogs in respect of coming back etc but training an eagle to do what it would naturally do to survive in the wild??!! What I meant by training was the rearing from a chick, handling, etc. I know thats what you meant Maltenby. I was referring to MY LAW's comments. I've heard similar comments from anti's regarding hounds and training them actually... just to let you know i was a whipper in for a hunt so was my brother so dont bother going there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redeye jedi 39 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 okay mate you carry on thinking that. we know absolutely nothing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 my law you dont know alot if anything about BOP so i dont think you can comment accurately on their abilities so i wouldnt bother if i was you matey.go on show me proof ,there is not any out there it is done on a regular basis ,and i know enough about BOP to know im right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) okay mate you carry on thinking that. we know absolutely nothing! put up proof ,simple by the way i just been reading your post and [YOU SOUND LIKE A FOUNTAIN OF KNOWLEDG]not. Edited December 30, 2008 by MY LAW Quote Link to post Share on other sites
redeye jedi 39 Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Studies conducted on a harpy eagle's grip came with results that said the bird had the grip strength of ten adult men standing on the tip of a nail. Golden eagles have been known to kill wolves, and we should all know that a german shepherd is no match for an enraged male gray wolf. just a few quotes mate that do for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest MY LAW Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Studies conducted on a harpy eagle's grip came with results that said the bird had the grip strength of ten adult men standing on the tip of a nail. Golden eagles have been known to kill wolves, and we should all know that a german shepherd is no match for an enraged male gray wolf. just a few quotes mate that do for you? any body can write what they want ,eagles have been know to be lucky on ocasions but like i said it dont happen very often ,dont keep making me go back on whats been said already ,they cant do it on a regular basis. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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