Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Here are pics of some more American bred coyote dogs. My buddy will explain a little about each pic I am sure. Quote Link to post
JPTfellterrier 65 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 coooooooooooooooooool Quote Link to post
Kye 77 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 In the first pic, the fawn coloured bitch is called Grace, and she is used on anything, from hares to bears,...she will smoke a coyote on herself,..and the black dog in the pic with her, is, i think, a dog named Zorro, and he will do them singled up as well...imo, the lads who run in this group, test there dogs more than most, and will run doubles, rather than just putting a 'pack' of dogs on a coyote,...there is alot of guys who will dump 5-6 dogs on a coyote,...i wouldnt do that, coz if i did, i would certainly be asking questions about the dogs!..lol...each to there own though...i will add, that a coyote is NOT a big fox, its a smaller type of wolf!...these fuckers will EAT dogs!,..lol. Kye.. Quote Link to post
Kye 77 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 There are dogs that can and do, do them single, but they 'aint common!...thet Grace bitch is summat special though...she will catch hares, and she will hang onto a bear!...crazy mo-fo, thats for sure!... These guys can get on quite a few 'yotes in a day aswell, so they have to think of the numbers as well...yeah, you could run single handed, but the dog would only be good for one!...these guys do it for pest control, but they do it to see the dogs work aswell...there are some VERY good dog men over here. Jay.. PS...Scotsman, i would love to see what them Aluant hybrids would make of a good yote!...that would be awesome!...i should think they have the tools for the job! Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 scotsman-As Kye mentioned both the fawn bitch "Grace" and the black male "Zorro" (red collar) can handle them solo. I prefer to run dogs doubled and to let them sort it out themselves, as thats the best way to sort out dogs, IMO. I do sometimes run a pup (10-14mo) with the older pair to teach it the game, but after a few catches, I put them with just one other dog and see if they make the grade or not. Running dogs "mobbed handed" is done because often times more than one coyote is lifted at the same time, and sometimes several in a day. Coyotes are considered pests here and the land owners expect them all to be accounted for when possible. The terrian often times makes it difficult for a single dog to stay sighted and to still be be able to gather the coyote up. There are plenty of folks that use too many dogs because they dont have that good of dogs, or they arent interested in the "sport" but rather view it as simple pest removal. I can only tell you why I run my dogs the way I do. The coyote will test any dog, the dogs in the pics are 70-75lbs for a size comparison, and are usually started on foxes at 6-9 months old. Take care. Quote Link to post
bird 9,984 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 There are dogs that can and do, do them single, but they 'aint common!...thet Grace bitch is summat special though...she will catch hares, and she will hang onto a bear!...crazy mo-fo, thats for sure!... These guys can get on quite a few 'yotes in a day aswell, so they have to think of the numbers as well...yeah, you could run single handed, but the dog would only be good for one!...these guys do it for pest control, but they do it to see the dogs work aswell...there are some VERY good dog men over here. Jay.. PS...Scotsman, i would love to see what them Aluant hybrids would make of a good yote!...that would be awesome!...i should think they have the tools for the job! Great Dogs, do they ever use bullx greys on yotes, as they have plenty of pits out there. ? or do stags do a better job, as a 45lb yote must be alot tougher than a 20lb dog fox? and thats what some bullxs were bred for as a fox dog in the UK pre ban? Quote Link to post
littletimmy 71 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 There are dogs that can and do, do them single, but they 'aint common!...thet Grace bitch is summat special though...she will catch hares, and she will hang onto a bear!...crazy mo-fo, thats for sure!... These guys can get on quite a few 'yotes in a day aswell, so they have to think of the numbers as well...yeah, you could run single handed, but the dog would only be good for one!...these guys do it for pest control, but they do it to see the dogs work aswell...there are some VERY good dog men over here. Jay.. PS...Scotsman, i would love to see what them Aluant hybrids would make of a good yote!...that would be awesome!...i should think they have the tools for the job! Great Dogs, do they ever use bullx greys on yotes, as they have plenty of pits out there. ? or do stags do a better job, as a 45lb yote must be alot tougher than a 20lb dog fox? and thats what some bullxs were bred for as a fox dog in the UK pre ban? I think a "good" bull x would take too much stick of these so maybe not that useful to them over there? Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 The fawn bitch is a bull x stag. Most dont use bull blood or very little (1/4-1/16) as the good stag blood does not need any more than that. IMO, the bull blood does have benefit in these dogs, but isnt neccesary in many. I plan to always have some in MY dogs. Take care. Quote Link to post
Guest Chip Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 do you lads get paid for what you take?i read somewhere that some states pay a bounty or was that way back, Quote Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 Great stuff name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>"> name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src=" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350"> A good few video's of Sloughis taken Wolf or Jackal. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 not be long until im over there killing yotes coursing jacks saw a dog kill ayote but was apowerful staghound but most are doubled up what ive seen .but it is bigger than afox by far but saw 25 plus who could fite abit Quote Link to post
hairybull 3 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 The fawn bitch looks in terrific condition- how old is she? Have you had anything out of her yet or plans to? Quote Link to post
chimp 299 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 i think a good firstcross bullcross would be able to do them single handed . but like you said they all need to be accounted for hence the double / treble up's Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 hairybull-Thanks, she is quite a dog. She is 2 1/2 yrs old and is due to have pups from the black dog "Zorro" (red collar) the last week of Jan. It will be her first litter. whin-where will you be? chip-The hides bring some money, but we do not have a bounty at this time. The bountys vary from place to place and time to time. The pay off for us is access to the land and the ability to sort thru our dogs. Take care. Quote Link to post
UphillDoc 278 Posted December 27, 2008 Report Share Posted December 27, 2008 merrihunter-Thats a nice video and the dogs did well to close in that rocky, hilly ground. I dont know anything about Sloughi but that looked very similar to a coyote race...lol Are those dogs more distance dogs or speed dogs? How do they fight? How big are those dogs? Take care. Quote Link to post
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