fraggle 4 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 been working with my lurcher now for a couple of months, and she is a stuborn young cow at times, the word no shouted as loud as possible only deters her for all of two seconds, there is times where i could give her a good slap and reinforce it with a loud no, is this gona do drastic actions. Just want her to be good, dont mind a bit of bad stuff but some things she has to learn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ferret boy charlie 0 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) i smacked my lurcher for chasing sheep once never trusted me like he used to again i its gonna take alot of work for me to getr that level of trust back Edited December 24, 2008 by ferret boy charlie Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woodard 32 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I would not smack her do more harm than good wat she doing roung anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mattydski 560 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I tend to scruff my dogs, and talk sternly, without complication. No!No! The dog accepts that as a dominant action, not aggresive action. You shouldnt loose respect from the animal for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fraggle 4 Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 just general chewing shoes, even though i offer her something else and praise her when she chews that, but turn your back and she is back in the shoe rack. taking rubish from the bin, even sussed how to open the flip top bins. just general stuff, all her other training like sit recall, retrieve etc are realy good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Aye, there's nothing wrong with giving your dog a clout when it's needed. Having said that though, you need to find a balance. A dog will either dominate, or be dominated, there's no middle ground. you have to make it clear to your dog that you are dominant, you are in control of it. All dogs are different though, you have to find the right balance between positive & negative reinforcement, which may differ from dog to dog, but if you put the time & effort into it, you'll quickly find what suits your dog. It's no good leathering the dog if it's the type that will keep running when you bollock it, it'll make things worse. What I find, is that it pays to almost have a bi-polar sort of attitude with dogs, when they're good/do what's asked, you're the dogs best friend, but when they don't, you are it's worst enemy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ferret feller Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 my mate daz brought a dog that would be jumping on you all day so he got pissed off and gave it a whollop on the nose dog raley jumps up now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littletimmy 71 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 i think its more a case of WHEN to smack. Seen a lad yesterday smack his dog for being sick in the car(due to being scared, obviously as it wernt use to it) the later smack his other dog for running away while he roared at it for not seeing the quarry as it jumped up ... A smack is sometimes necessary, or viable, but not as often as some would have you believe.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Malt 379 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 i think its more a case of WHEN to smack. Seen a lad yesterday smack his dog for being sick in the car(due to being scared, obviously as it wernt use to it) the later smack his other dog for running away while he roared at it for not seeing the quarry as it jumped up ... A smack is sometimes necessary, or viable, but not as often as some would have you believe.. Agree with pretty much all of that matey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fraggle 4 Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 i think its more a case of WHEN to smack. Seen a lad yesterday smack his dog for being sick in the car(due to being scared, obviously as it wernt use to it) the later smack his other dog for running away while he roared at it for not seeing the quarry as it jumped up ... A smack is sometimes necessary, or viable, but not as often as some would have you believe.. yeah i understand that you cant punish a dog for something it dose not know if you get me, hitting it for being sick is just stupid, plus i know if i gave her a smack for not coming back on the recall, it will just make the training een harder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hob&Jill 258 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Aye, there's nothing wrong with giving your dog a clout when it's needed. Having said that though, you need to find a balance. A dog will either dominate, or be dominated, there's no middle ground. you have to make it clear to your dog that you are dominant, you are in control of it. All dogs are different though, you have to find the right balance between positive & negative reinforcement, which may differ from dog to dog, but if you put the time & effort into it, you'll quickly find what suits your dog. It's no good leathering the dog if it's the type that will keep running when you bollock it, it'll make things worse. What I find, is that it pays to almost have a bi-polar sort of attitude with dogs, when they're good/do what's asked, you're the dogs best friend, but when they don't, you are it's worst enemy. Completely agree Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tom1 7 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Never hit your dog with your hands, It will become scared of your hand and wont like giving you things to hand, Use a walking cane and alittle tap should do , Then it will dislike the cane an not you Tom` Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ratmogit 16 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 (edited) been working with my lurcher now for a couple of months, and she is a stuborn young cow at times, the word no shouted as loud as possible only deters her for all of two seconds, there is times where i could give her a good slap and reinforce it with a loud no, is this gona do drastic actions. Just want her to be good, dont mind a bit of bad stuff but some things she has to learn. this sounds stupid but it works on non nervous types . after its ignored you wait untill the next it does it time grab it by the scruff . not wildly . pin it to the floor and say no almost growling it whilst showing your teeth and keep full eye contact untill it looks away. dont do it to anyone elses dog and obviously if your dogs nuts. it worked with my bull bitch. its better than giving it a clout. its pack order Edited December 24, 2008 by ratmogit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Halfinch 51 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Try using a rolled up newspaper, it's the noise that is more of a shock rather than hurting the dog, but only use punishment at the time the dog is actually doing wrong, no good after it has happened as the dog won't relate the punishment to the offence. Good luck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackpack 70 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 never smack a dog mate as someone said its you who hit it, i use a very fine twig bendy and give them a quick whip then its not my hand.also you said it chews stuff and you give it something else to chew, dogs dont have the brain to assess what it can chew and what it cant,personally i wouldnt give it anything to chew problem solved lurchers are born scavs just note the bins Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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