whin 463 Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 maybe probaly your write , as even the local mates dogs dont fetch dont think they need it ,dont hunt ,fech off , they wonder why i dont take my dogs out with them two years of entering training and a few weeks to fech them if they are not bred that way, the colli line are bomb proof when it come s to fetching and other things but my saluks can learn bad habits if strange dogs start stealing qaurry they get hard until they hunt with there own type again i e kennel mates , who are brought up together Quote Link to post
woz 260 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 not realy like that mate ,but believe in testing a dog to all qaurry before i breed them only way to get sound dogs and keep the lines going , im blessed i can course lamp ferret all in the one day a not to far from house but you need the dogs to take the work load ,and to perform regulary ,ye i dont mean how it sounds but if you listen and learn youll no were i am comeing from mate ,as lots of people have lost the way on lurchers in general , and when i say run all over i no other guys have as i have a good few aqaintances , from usa to bloody spain who visit , no malum ment but i see the true lurcher going the way of most great or good things , im glad ive saw dogs worthy of being called good or better than good , cheers,honestyl mate a lurcher was bred to fill the table or butchers slab with what was on offer and if there game odd fox ask any man worth his salt what agood lurcher was bred for ,maybe people dont have the same time or dedicaition , such is life why would i want to run my dogs on anything else but the quary i intened to hunt??? my dogs are good,and never been shown up in any company..all as im interested in is pot filling dogs.iv got well over 3000 acres of permision and im out 2 or 3 times a week...i enjoy lamping thats my thing.iv got no interest in day time stuff and i wont run my dogs in the day.maybe you should listen to us old feckers who have run deer/fox/feather iv been there done that many years ago and all as i want out of a dog is to lamp rabbits..theres some big ego thing to have a dog that does deer/fox/badger/feather/hare/sheep and kagaroo but to be fare most of the lads that shout the loadest never get there dogs past there back gates...there's nothing wrong with having well proven lamping dogs!!!!!!! Quote Link to post
Brimmer 220 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 not realy like that mate ,but believe in testing a dog to all qaurry before i breed them only way to get sound dogs and keep the lines going , im blessed i can course lamp ferret all in the one day a not to far from house but you need the dogs to take the work load ,and to perform regulary ,ye i dont mean how it sounds but if you listen and learn youll no were i am comeing from mate ,as lots of people have lost the way on lurchers in general , and when i say run all over i no other guys have as i have a good few aqaintances , from usa to bloody spain who visit , no malum ment but i see the true lurcher going the way of most great or good things , im glad ive saw dogs worthy of being called good or better than good , cheers,honestyl mate a lurcher was bred to fill the table or butchers slab with what was on offer and if there game odd fox ask any man worth his salt what agood lurcher was bred for ,maybe people dont have the same time or dedicaition , such is lifefecking hell whin 100percent but its going out to a lot of dead wood. And one or two saplings though! Quote Link to post
Brimmer 220 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I have only seen one exceptional dog so far, He was a complete b*****d, you struggled to hold him back on anything, he dodged the bullet a few times for his own doing, but at the end of the day, when he came good, it was that invincible mode that set him above anything else I have ever seen. I hope I see that again some day. We held him back just on rabbits, dog could have done anything. Quote Link to post
Rabbithunter 456 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 all i ask for is a dog to do its job Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 woz to me a lurcher is a master of none but good at all traits of dog work and lamping is good ,but my only way i can get or breed good dogs is to test them whats on offer ,nowt wrong with lamping rabbs and ive done plenty honestly ,and listen care fully were i was brought up rabbs were thin on ground 25 years ago only hares and roe and the odd rabbit ,pheasants, partridges and the odd fox , so you hunt whats on offer ,until you can drive and go to get rabbit land etc for a change but you never forget were you started etc i like to test a dog before i ever breed and the only way is whats on offer the most and well ill say no more its no ego woz its just part of life for some honestly Quote Link to post
Guest oldskool Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 the things i hope for in a young lurcher is prey drive, intelligence and robustness and all in that order... if you have those things then your more than half way there to havin a very good dog with time and effort Quote Link to post
Guest Taffybull Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 as long as the dog has a very good heart, shows 110% willing. cant ask for much more Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 tafy ive saw dogs and got some that are commited in there game as you have , but i like a dog that goes out catches its game and comes back the same way got dogs who i bred would fetch hare rabbit tales wagging and come back quick ,naturaly but maybe lose it if i dont get pups all the best mate and take a fox roe , hate the thought of losing real good bloodlines mate people dont understand , when you do it for most of your life honestly Quote Link to post
Guest Taffybull Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 good reply whin merry christmas mate Quote Link to post
Tyla 3,179 Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 i would like mine to take rabbits night and day, work well with ferrets and nets, take roe (where legal) and be obedient and reliable around stock and people. My bitch is my first lurcher and as i dont know any experienced dogmen i've trained her with a mix of common sense and advice off here. So far so good, only real difficulties now are retrieving and a bit hard mouthed, shes good with everything else although i wouldnt know where to start with deer even if it were legal i'm sure she is capable of more if i knew what to do but im reasonably happy with her progress. Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted December 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 tell me you say your inexpeorenced what age are you and what do you do hunting wise are you living in the country etc were you see game daily if you no were to walk , cant understand all those people who by lurchers without learning feild craft and looking about for game do people nowadays just by a dog go on computer then hunt ,in my time you served an apprentiship ,feerets rakeing with dogs ,learn the ways of the country side and then get adog when you can do it justice , Quote Link to post
Meerihunter 7 Posted December 25, 2008 Report Share Posted December 25, 2008 For me they have to be durable above all else, the best running dog in the world is no use laying lame at home. I like my dogs real clever hunters to be able to find game and kill whether open fields or forest day or night, they have to have a bit of sense about them to run woods at night. Stamina is a must and they have to be relentless with it, I hate really getting going into a lot of game only for them to run out of steam. As for retrieving I'm not so bothered as many are so long as they bring back of a fashion but I don't look field trial standard. This one did the job consistantly well till he was 10 year old. Quote Link to post
woz 260 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 tell me you say your inexpeorenced what age are you and what do you do hunting wise are you living in the country etc were you see game daily if you no were to walk , cant understand all those people who by lurchers without learning feild craft and looking about for game do people nowadays just by a dog go on computer then hunt ,in my time you served an apprentiship ,feerets rakeing with dogs ,learn the ways of the country side and then get adog when you can do it justice , many a true word...this should be copied and pasted on so many threads...why do people sell dogs....my dog wont retreve....i havnt got any permission....why are all the fox's lamp shy....mate youve hit the nail on the head in so few words.. Quote Link to post
Tyla 3,179 Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 tell me you say your inexpeorenced what age are you and what do you do hunting wise are you living in the country etc were you see game daily if you no were to walk , cant understand all those people who by lurchers without learning feild craft and looking about for game do people nowadays just by a dog go on computer then hunt ,in my time you served an apprentiship ,feerets rakeing with dogs ,learn the ways of the country side and then get adog when you can do it justice , inexperienced with lurchers. im 29, been living in the country, hunting, ferreting, shooting with both shotty and airgun all my life. i trained as and used to work as a keeper in my late teens and owned and trained my own beating and peg dogs. i have a 21mth bitsa bitch, a young JRTxwhippet and the four ferrets, im out on the lamp most night the weather is any good for it and out with the ferrets every weekend. Unfortunately i have to work in the week though As for buying a computer then going hunting, you couldnt be further off the mark i was hunting years before i knew how to turn one on! im sure you dont mean to whin but you can come across as a pompous old sod sometimes. You seem to have been very lucky in your life and, no doubt, have made the most of your opportunities too which is equally important but not everyone has that opportunity. You sound like the real deal with the knowledge to back yourself up but dont forget everyone has to start somewhere, would you rather i never tried and sat behind my pc like some one here? No wonder the hunting community is in such a sorry state As for serving an apprenticeship, sure, you show me someone local, with the knowledge, who is willing to show me the ropes and i would jump at the chance. Until then i will keep learning as i go Quote Link to post
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