time to ground

[top terrierman 90]

its nice to say your dog would stay for 6 hours but unfortunatly i never had a six hour dig had a few 3 hour digs.i understand what u are saying about breeding of proven dogs every man has diffrent standards of what a proven dog is.if your terrier has worked well for a few seasons in diffrent type earths in diffrent places.and never let you down and you have got alot of game.then of course it is worth breeding off would be good enough for me.if you were waiting for a 6 hour dig then you wouldnt have much terriers around.

[lancer 13]

if it takes a terrier six hours to sort a fox out its not worth breeding from.

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

Think you hit the nail on the head dev,i dont even know of anyone thats had a 6hrs dig,u must be talking 20ft for it to take so long! But im still confused because if your dog went to ground and stayed for 6hrs and its a 15ft dig for example id be getting the JCB out and getting down to him asap! Seen some nasty foxes give a terrier a hard time after an hour or 2 but 6hrs you got to be having a laugh!

 

Miller I dug to my dog at the beginning of November, 6 1/2 hours.

They don't happen often but they do happen.

[mouse 282]

Think you hit the nail on the head dev,i dont even know of anyone thats had a 6hrs dig,u must be talking 20ft for it to take so long! But im still confused because if your dog went to ground and stayed for 6hrs and its a 15ft dig for example id be getting the JCB out and getting down to him asap! Seen some nasty foxes give a terrier a hard time after an hour or 2 but 6hrs you got to be having a laugh!

 

Miller I dug to my dog at the beginning of November, 6 1/2 hours.

They don't happen often but they do happen.

its good when they do happen but you dont want them too often .

[liamdelaney 2,587]

I dont reply to many threads because their are so many experts on this forum now.But i have been digging since i was 9 years of age on a weekly basis and that was over 40 years ago. I learned my trade from the old timers badger diggers and trial men.If a dog came away after 3 hours or 10 hours he was not comeing home.I have dug plenty of dogs in big serious places just to test them.We dug after dogs for 2 and 3 days on one occasion 5 days and got him alive he could have come out but his breeding would not let him.Now with all the high tec finding gear dogs are called workers after 5 minutes to ground.Breed your stock from the dog who wont come out not the 5 minute wonder dog and the future wii be better for working terriers.To the man who said a dog should account for a fox in a few hours or he is no good i have news for u. Foxes are not soft ive seen good badger dogs down the years getting badly broke up by foxes when he had a good vantage point under ground. Another armchair hunter HAPPY CHRISTMAS ALL LIAM DELANEY

[Guest Chip]

Foxes are not soft ive seen good badger dogs down the years getting badly broke up by foxes when he had a good vantage point under ground.

i like that liam,spot on...

[lancer 13]

vantage point or not your terrier should lock on and dislodge it from iys vantage point.

[chilli 381]

I can see where you are coming from with the 6hours+ digs , but as most lads on here know these are very rare . Gone are the old days when you turned dogs in sat back had a bit of crak and a cuppa etc & then after an hour or so to let the dog settle down with its quarry you would go looking for ( ear to the ground listening for the dog .) . in these modern times we have locaters that that helps cut down the locating time etc 2~3 hours . these dogs of old may have had longer time too ground but in these times our dogs are been dug too a lot more frequently hence in my mind they are been tried &tested a lot more .

[liamdelaney 2,587]

The last two replies are the reason why experienced terrier men on this forum dont bother posting any more because the shapers and the know nothings always have a stupid answer for anything put up.Instead of mabye listening and mabye learn something.I have never seen a dog dug to on a regular basis (even the hardest of dogs) who have not come to grief sooner or later by a wiley old fox who makes him pay when he has the advantage.And i still dont understand how with locaters dogs are getting dug more frequently so they are more experienced than dogs that were dug without locators .I would have thought the longer a dog was to ground he would be learning more and be more experienced.At least i can get a laugh from the two Mr Einsteins who probally watched a few videos and then baught the t shirt

[chilli 381]

The last two replies are the reason why experienced terrier men on this forum dont bother posting any more because the shapers and the know nothings always have a stupid answer for anything put up.Instead of mabye listening and mabye learn something.I have never seen a dog dug to on a regular basis (even the hardest of dogs) who have not come to grief sooner or later by a wiley old fox who makes him pay when he has the advantage.And i still dont understand how with locaters dogs are getting dug more frequently so they are more experienced than dogs that were dug without locators .I would have thought the longer a dog was to ground he would be learning more and be more experienced.At least i can get a laugh from the two Mr Einsteins who probally watched a few videos and then baught the t shirt

I suppose you are a very clever person or so you think ! you are a no nowt read youre own post mr novice .

[chilli 381]

In the old days non bayers were no good hard dogs that got blitzed did not last long in the area where i live . as for what i said about the dogs what are used today having more experience . i know what you are saying about dogs that were getting dug too for 6~7 hours but the dogs most people have today maybe getting dug too 2 or 3 times in that same time + modern medications also help in the healing process . as for watching dvds i have never seen a digging dvd . i was taught by my my father who started digging in the 50s & he was taught by the old men of his time .

[patterdale moocher 10]

I dont reply to many threads because their are so many experts on this forum now.But i have been digging since i was 9 years of age on a weekly basis and that was over 40 years ago. I learned my trade from the old timers badger diggers and trial men.If a dog came away after 3 hours or 10 hours he was not comeing home.I have dug plenty of dogs in big serious places just to test them.We dug after dogs for 2 and 3 days on one occasion 5 days and got him alive he could have come out but his breeding would not let him.Now with all the high tec finding gear dogs are called workers after 5 minutes to ground.Breed your stock from the dog who wont come out not the 5 minute wonder dog and the future wii be better for working terriers.To the man who said a dog should account for a fox in a few hours or he is no good i have news for u. Foxes are not soft ive seen good badger dogs down the years getting badly broke up by foxes when he had a good vantage point under ground. Another armchair hunter HAPPY CHRISTMAS ALL LIAM DELANEY

got to agree dug to my dog after 7 hours and sadly he died that night it was a 12 ft dig on top of a mound when we got 2ft from him he moved to the other side of the mound 12ft again fox must off had a good vantage point dog took a hammering-RIP-JACK

[Bosun11 537]

I WOULD SAY YOUR JUST ANOTHER GUY THAT TALKS OUT YOUR HOLE WOLLY, ITS THE QUALITY OF WORK A DOG DOES, A DOG COULD SIT YAPPING FOR SIX HOURS AND NOT TAKE A BITE , THEN YOU GET YOUR AVERAGE 1 HOUR DIG WERE A DOG GOES HELL FOR LEATHER AND CONTROLS HIS QUARRY, MAKING STATMENTS LIKE YOU HAVE WOLLY I BET YOU BE WAITING TONIGHT BY THE CHIMMEY FOR SANTA.

 

With all due respect p***y, though he can answer for himself, i'm sure Wolfy was just doing a little fishing on here, as I do know he's new to this pc stuff but not to the working terrier!

[blackdogs no 1 24]

I dont reply to many threads because their are so many experts on this forum now.But i have been digging since i was 9 years of age on a weekly basis and that was over 40 years ago. I learned my trade from the old timers badger diggers and trial men.If a dog came away after 3 hours or 10 hours he was not comeing home.I have dug plenty of dogs in big serious places just to test them.We dug after dogs for 2 and 3 days on one occasion 5 days and got him alive he could have come out but his breeding would not let him.Now with all the high tec finding gear dogs are called workers after 5 minutes to ground.Breed your stock from the dog who wont come out not the 5 minute wonder dog and the future wii be better for working terriers.To the man who said a dog should account for a fox in a few hours or he is no good i have news for u. Foxes are not soft ive seen good badger dogs down the years getting badly broke up by foxes when he had a good vantage point under ground. Another armchair hunter HAPPY CHRISTMAS ALL LIAM DELANEY

spot on mate dug to an 18 month patt last week for three hours never left the qaurry bolted it first foxs at ten month old then was held bak till this season

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

The last two replies are the reason why experienced terrier men on this forum dont bother posting any more because the shapers and the know nothings always have a stupid answer for anything put up.Instead of mabye listening and mabye learn something.I have never seen a dog dug to on a regular basis (even the hardest of dogs) who have not come to grief sooner or later by a wiley old fox who makes him pay when he has the advantage.And i still dont understand how with locaters dogs are getting dug more frequently so they are more experienced than dogs that were dug without locators .I would have thought the longer a dog was to ground he would be learning more and be more experienced.At least i can get a laugh from the two Mr Einsteins who probally watched a few videos and then baught the t shirt

 

I'M NOT THAT OLD BUT WHEN I STARTED DIGGING MYSELF AND MY PARTNER DID'NT HAVE THE CASH FOR A LOCATOR, WE HAD TO LEARN TO LOCATE THE DOG THE OLD WAY AND IT MAY HAVE TAKEN 2 HOLES BUT WE GOT THERE. A 2 hr dig then would be a 30 minute dig now. If a dog

spews it spews. No matter how long or short, the thing to do is CULL, not sell on or give on.

 

JMO.