Jayd 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hi all, Had a quick search, but couldn't see anything on here regarding it. What it is, I'm wondering whether or not it was bad etiquette to buy a plot, then put it down for permission for the FAC? And would I need to secure the land with fences, etc. or would it not matter as long as the boundaries were clearly marked? Cheers. Quote Link to post
The one 8,470 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 dont think so what about farmers isn't that what they do???? Depending on the calibre though it could amount to a few acres Quote Link to post
dave1372 83 Posted December 19, 2008 Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I wouldn't say it is bad etiquette, most people would just be jealous you had money to buy land at the drop of a hat for the sake of getting your FAC! However the size and terrain of the plot should be suitable for the type of calibre you are applying for. What size is the plot, what borders the plot ? Quote Link to post
Jayd 0 Posted December 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2008 I've nothing in mind at the moment, but I'm keeping an eye on land auctions TBH. Oop north, it doesn't seem to bring much for land. So was considering tying some money up in land if I find the right spot. Obviously it would need to be suitable for the reason I applied for, so calibre etc. is unknown as yet, but I wouldn't buying a plot if I could to use it for this reason. Quote Link to post
silver_fox 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Hi all, Had a quick search, but couldn't see anything on here regarding it. What it is, I'm wondering whether or not it was bad etiquette to buy a plot, then put it down for permission for the FAC? And would I need to secure the land with fences, etc. or would it not matter as long as the boundaries were clearly marked? Cheers. I did exactly that, my wife thought we were buying 4 acres for her horse, but I knew different; it is a great 300yd range (unless the horse gets in the way). I filled in my own permission form for .22lr, .17hmr & .223 and gave it to the FEO when he came to do my home visit. I also supplied a photocopied map of the land for his files, which he seemed to appreciate. Quote Link to post
SportingShooter 0 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 There's nothing to stop you using your own land You just have to fill in a Permission or Landowner slip yourself. Depending on the size of the land, which will determine what the FEO grants to be used on that land. SS Quote Link to post
claybusers al 9 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 if you buy land make sure you also get the sporting rights as large estates sometimes keep these when selling on land Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 Many farmers and landowners shoot on their own land..not a problem...go for it if you can!! Quote Link to post
Jayd 0 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Thanks for the advice all. I shall keep an eye on what comes up in future. What do you think the minimum size of land is I could get, in order to apply for what calibre on the FAC, and I'm assuming there will obviously have to be some quarry that will need an FAC rated rifle, so will have to be a bit bigger than rabbits etc? Thanks. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Look for a plot with lots of lovely backstops, no houses, roads or footpaths nearby. I got 22lr on 50 acres of flat(ish) land crossed with paths and roads and a few houses, but i did state that i would be shooting from a high seat or elevated position. I think i will struggle to get a larger calibre on this plot. Quote Link to post
Jayd 0 Posted December 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Look for a plot with lots of lovely backstops, no houses, roads or footpaths nearby. I got 22lr on 50 acres of flat(ish) land crossed with paths and roads and a few houses, but i did state that i would be shooting from a high seat or elevated position. I think i will struggle to get a larger calibre on this plot. Ah, don't think I'll be looking for a plot that big TBH. Probably be looking for less than 10 acres if I'm honest. Do you think I'll struggle getting even a 22 rim or centrefire on a plot of say, 3-5 acres? It's likely to be surrounded by woodland. Thanks. Quote Link to post
Fidgety 8 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Its all down to the FEO at the end of the day, try and get some with lots of safe backstops, maybe put up some high seats. Sadly, I don't think there are any guidelines, only how the FEO feels about you, your attitude and the land. If i were in your position, I'd try and get some permission, join a club, and perhaps 18 months after FAC issue, and using a lot of ammo, apply for an open ticket. Once you got that, you can shoot anywhere YOU consider safe. Quote Link to post
Deker 3,478 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 (edited) Look for a plot with lots of lovely backstops, no houses, roads or footpaths nearby. I got 22lr on 50 acres of flat(ish) land crossed with paths and roads and a few houses, but i did state that i would be shooting from a high seat or elevated position. I think i will struggle to get a larger calibre on this plot. Ah, don't think I'll be looking for a plot that big TBH. Probably be looking for less than 10 acres if I'm honest. Do you think I'll struggle getting even a 22 rim or centrefire on a plot of say, 3-5 acres? It's likely to be surrounded by woodland. Thanks. Flippen 'ek...I'd say so... The Firearms departments are a law unto themselves...around my part of the world there is NO WAY you would get Rimfire or Centrefire on 3-4 acres or 20 acres. They should be looking at topography and location, but size still comes into it very often! Its all daft really, because standing in the middle of even the biggest estates in this country it is still often possible to shoot beyond the boundaries! Edited December 22, 2008 by Deker Quote Link to post
cyclonebri1 8 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think the sensible thing would be to buy a plot surrounded by crop farms/small holdings etc. When you see what you like approach the surrounding farmers 1st. Seek permission to shoot on thier land in return for farming yours?? Most folks support good neighbours and I'm sure you really don't want the hassle of ploughing, seeding, combing and even hedgecutting etc? It might seem difficult to do this but it's not imposssible Quote Link to post
Jayd 0 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I think the sensible thing would be to buy a plot surrounded by crop farms/small holdings etc. When you see what you like approach the surrounding farmers 1st. Seek permission to shoot on thier land in return for farming yours?? Most folks support good neighbours and I'm sure you really don't want the hassle of ploughing, seeding, combing and even hedgecutting etc? It might seem difficult to do this but it's not imposssible No problem, thanks. I didn't want to take on a huge amount of land, which is why I was only looking for a smallish plot. If it's likely to be fruitless for anything other than a load of acreage, I'll probably just buy a small plot to use the air rifle etc. on, and look into joining a gun club. That way, it won't bother me too much if I get the FAC purely for the club, and then try and get the land put on the ticket, and it's declined. Thanks for your reply also Deker, I'm in Lancashire, so land is more of a premium in the area I am in, most of it's been used for half built housing Quote Link to post
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